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    1. Axel 10 yrs ago

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- Looks at robots - Now this is why we need more moderators
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8 yrs ago
That moment when you realize that yourself is smarter than you :(
8 yrs ago
Will the one true Axel please stand up? No cause I'm busy sitting down.
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8 yrs ago
"Life is a cigarette that we all have to smoke."
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Just so it's known in the OOC, my chars have been approved over pm. Also, my chars are up for relationships if anyone wants to have and...goodnight America!!! xD
My character is also open for relationships, just incase anyone wants to be in a form of relationship with him already o3o
My squad 10 lieutenant Reila Ryuga and your char could have that awkward older brother, younger sister relationship.

@malmshodes
Whether you want it now or later, your lieutenant is going to think of you as a smarty pants. This may be a bad or good thing however, as she begins respecting Jynmi far beyond the average person. Just imagine Momo being massively obsessed with Sosuke Aizen's intellect rather than him as a person and you've nailed her on the spot. The only major difference is that she wouldn't be as blinded by her obsession as Momo was. That's just what I thought of based on his personality anyways so it could be different.
@Zero Hex

"Okay so, considering you haven't actually responded to much of anything, and I'm trying to work with you here seeing I've pointed out a myriad of shortcomings and heavy disadvantages my character is subjected to as well as provided justification for powers you thought lacked ground to stand on based on thematic, story, personality and even real life examples of similar skills:"

Let's get one thing straight, you're not trying to work with me nor is this some type of debate. I reviewed your char, and re-reviewed it after hearing your rebuttal before giving my final verdict. With that said, I'm not going to go back and forward with you on this matter. Either do as I instructed or don't bother getting accepted at all, it's simple as that. This is non-negotiable.

"How do you suggest balancing out a man whose thing is being a skilled actual swordsman with the low key powerset of "can sword real good despite being unable to powerblast", without being immediately rendered moot by the people summoning reiryoku-stealing, crushing bodies of water, creating poisonous clouds and a poison-on-touch armor, summoning and controlling magical shadows etc, all of them armed with a magical weapon as well, often with a higher level of proficiency in other skills to boot over my extremely overspecialized guy. Should I just scrap it and just have a samey powerset? Let go of an actual gimmick in favor of regular lieutenant levels of power?"

I thought the point of making an underpowered char was to be underpowered? You chose to make your character that way so you can't get mad cause of the competition you have to face because of it. If I put a new game on the hardest difficulty without having any experience beforehand then I must endure the end result, same thing with your char. This isn't Burger King. Either your char is going to be strong or he isn't, you can't have the best of both worlds...or maybe you can? Awhile ago for a story I made, I created the most underpowered naruto character that turned out pretty well. He wasn't naturally strong nor could he really compete with anyone except for those no named npcs. Despite that, he managed to beat some of the strongest people with very unorthodoxed tactics(And I'm the type of person who won't even hesitate to kill my main char in order to make it realistic). What I'm saying is that you can make anything work if you're creative enough but if you can't think of anything other than similar stuff then maybe you should broaden your horizons a little more. Also, like I mentioned, you can always ask me or one of the gms for help and we can try to provide some innovative stuff for you char.

Now I'm going to catch some zzzz's cause I have a Final in the morning.
@Kurisa @Axel @AbigailTenshi @Phobos

Considering the wide scope of other lieutenant shinigami's powers and the presence of much higher proficiencies across the board when compared to my character, I feel my application is being unfairly judged. Hence, why I just typed this out. It is what it is.

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People no one notices are more likely to slip through the cracks and wind up retaining more individuality than someone who is at the forefront and therefore scrutinized, hence why he would’ve been able to get away with it at the start. Furthermore, squads tend to be defined by their current captain save for the few that come with an ingrained gimmick, which leaves the door open for quirks they'll allow. Skills aside Toshiro was also promoted because he seems very normal and laid back.

In a division that can easily be seen as strange what with the christian captain and the seated members in nun's clothing or the glam rocker, both of whom happen to be long time high ranking shinigami to boot, having a more normal person act as a representative to ease others into it all would gel better with recruits. Him wearing what amounts to a shinigami uniform except for a lighter colored, more personal robe would be seen as part of the image. Similar in structure, yet more relaxed and approachable.

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As for the shikai, here's the way I see it: my character's essence, so to speak, is "sword" and the skilled use thereof. He is defined by his ability to use a sword, an actual sword, and has specialized in this one thing so much that he can use it to step above what his station should be. There's a few reasons for this. First, it plays into the "peasant to samurai" archetype seen in jidaigeki fiction, around which my character was patterned. Also, Bleach places a lot of importance on the sword, but rarely actually displays them as swords. They morph into strange oversized weapons coupled bizarre abilities and that's fine and all, but I happen to like swords and their use and I find there's plenty of depth and fun to be found in an actual blade.

So, my guy focuses entirely on the sword. Compared to being able to control the weather, create and control magical shadows or water or glass and the multiple wide scale applications of these powers, you have to admit swinging a sharp piece of metal around is rather subdued and limited. Next, Bleach is pretty much defined by flat powerlevels. The idea behind my character was one who could overcome being born average through practiced skill with a good if simple weapon, and his reiryoku and reiatsu are never made out to be astonishing as with other characters. He wasn't born powerful, he simply employs what he has well. You'll notice his backstory means he's spent at least a couple centuries of anonymity almost entirely focused on swordfighting in such a way as to overcome his low level of reiatsu, which would logically account for ways to fight the many things a shinigami would run across.

His skills and character all have one clear thematic: the idealization of the swordsman, rising in life through the application of martial skill and ensuring he can ply his lone trade. How else do you suggest balancing out a character that is generally outmuscled, can't use the many powers related to sheer reiatsu volume, lacks the wide scale applications and highly destructive abilities of many other zanpakuto, can't do Hakuda barrages, can't spam Hoho afterimages or engage in a long distance shupo chase, and who is armed with one of the most basic of weapons, whose lone active skill is simply "cut harder"? If I'm willingly limiting myself to a very, very narrow scope compared to others I would expect at least the ability to actually engage in it to a very good level.

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Comparing this ability to Askin’s is rather unfair considering Askin can also immunize himself to direct means of destruction via reiatsu blasts and had a healing factor to boot. Askin also has the ability to lethally poison anyone with an attack or two, practically an instakill, and to set up giant inescapable poison deathzones. He also had high levels of reiryoku, the ability to catch a shunpo expert by surprise with his hirenkyaku, extremely high damage tolerance, the ability to compete with Yoruichi in hand to hand and his quincy weapons, all of which contribute to him being able to fight against those two.

My character has none of that and could still be handily overpowered by Askin just on powerlevel alone. Toshiro's sole advantage would be that hey, you have to actually fight him to kill him. Yes, it counters a number of ability types, but not in such a way that they cannot actually do anything. He still has to get in sword range to fight, which in something like Bleach is hugely limited. Other lieutenants and captains have advantage on reiatsu which has a number of applications, ability to use Kido, they can stay well out Toshiro’s range with shunpo and proficiency with Hakuda means their level would be more advanced than his in that area.

Thematically, this and other skills of his relate to the ideals of a honorable means of combat and death for a samurai. Poison and firearms would be seen as weapons beyond contempt. To be felled by such would be a great disgrace. Tying to Toshiro desperately wanting to be a samurai, if he could he would most certainly develop the means to try and ensure that his death happens blade to blade, something the zanpakuto he's imprinted upon would bring manifest on the boost that Shikai signifies. It carries no great release of reiatsu, no grandiose power, instead as it strengthens the blade it also seeks to strengthen the man in what ways it can.

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It’s tied to his personality and story, as are all his abilities, but I’m honestly not seeing how training himself so he doesn’t rely solely on his eyes isn’t an actual skill. Here’s a fun fact: the Bujinkan, a real life organization with legit demonstrable links to both samurai and ninja schools of martial arts, has this one test for rank where you have to dodge a (wooden) sword strike from behind while in a seated position. It is a commonly exaggerated trope in martial arts fiction but training for attack awareness is one of the most important things in any martial pursuit, from boxing to karate to military and self defense CQC.

As for the mary sue bit, that's not what a mary sue is. A sue is an unrealistic attempt at a perfect character. A sue would be more like reaching this level of swordsmanship with less than a decade of practice, have huge stores of reiryoku and reiatsu or possibly a special unique type of spirit energy from birth, likely be from some sort of famous bloodline and also have actual high level skills in other areas beyond swordsmanship, as well as a highly overdone zanpakuto power while being greatly admired for all this. My guy has spent centuries in anonymity trying to overcome his weaknesses by overspecializing to a ridiculous degree.

Training in both peripheral vision and nonvisual cues for attack, as well as having developed a knack for a quick reaction after so many years of service fighting dangerous creatures while not being particularly powerful, does not a sue make. In fact you could argue that it's a sign of his weakness, as someone much more powerful wouldn't have to worry so much about these things. They could, much like Kenpachi et al, simply charge forth confident in victory.

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Oh, and being able to apply sudden, unappealable rulesets that can very well completely shut down abilities and not even allow their use isn't rather OP? You don't like my guy being able to see through illusions, but those characters could still, for example, target Toshiro's friends to make them think he's an enemy and still remain effective. Not so if confronted with an ability that establishes that, for instance, deception is not allowed. Something like playing truth or dare with Shunsui, he could do away with the deceptive attacks or at least force the opponent into an action. He could want to play red hands and do away with Toshiro's blade and then he'd be essentially be a step away from death. This just lets Toshiro continue to apply his one limited ability.

I thought the name and concept were self explanatory: You can't put rules on the battlefield, or rather he won't accept such rules. It's not for actual physical limitations, it's for theoretical powers such as magically trying to limit actions he can do. If someone can say "don't do this or that" and make others obey the command as a power, it stands to reason someone would be able to ignore such a command as a power. As a former soldier, a samurai wannabe and a student of an art meant to kill others in an effective manner when the situation presents itself, telling him he can't do this or that is meaningless. It also links to his story as a peasant rising above, his life has been spent confronting norms and trying to step outside their boundaries.

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It's something physical, technical and mental. Physical and technical because, with centuries of practice to focus on swordsmanship, Toshiro will have trained to deal with different battlefields. Much like how soldiers train to perform in all manner of settings and harsh weather conditions, as their lives depend on it. You adapt yourself to the battlefield, learn its make, learn what is necessary to be effective in it. If your life hinged upon this, wouldn't you? Mental because, much like how risk awareness is a trained skill, so is the ability to not freeze up when confronted with a dangerous situation.

The ability to quickly draw one's blade and strike even from a resting position isn't exclusive to japanese swordsmanship, it was preparation for having to deal with violence at any given time. That is also what this skill refers to. You're taking it too far and assuming I'd turn it into some sort of invulnerability. Why I'm getting this treatment when a different player’s ability to create new spells was completely fine, I couldn't say. I can say that just how he said he'd control himself and it was accepted, I'm telling you that this is about readiness to fight and a tenacity to overcome absolutely typical of the genre. He can take damage and truck on, but that doesn't mean the damage isn't there. The mind can be willing but the body unable.

Willpower is hardly the mark of a mary sue character. Attaining success through effort and mental fortitude is a basic trope of the type of fiction Bleach belongs to. It is a basic trope of mankind, of the general will to advance and overcome and succeed that has shaped us as a species. A mary sue character would, for instance, increase their reiatsu through willpower, or will themselves into a better shunpo or hakuda. Toshiro continues to be a man with a sword with all the shortcomings I've described before.

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It’s what you think it is, the idea is pretty simple. Gun > sword, unarguably so. As this is fantasy, Toshiro has trained himself so his melee skills aren’t completely and utterly trivialized by ranged attacks as they were in real life. He’s still at a considerable disadvantage, as anyone with solid shunpo and a willingness to play keepaway and pelt him from a range is bound to outlast him sooner or later, but at least he can defend himself with his lone skillset.
Hmm...you executed your rebuttal with impressive flair and as such, I respect it. With that being said however, my decision still stands as it wasn't sufficient enough to change my views on the matter. I've carefully read everything you said, so in case you think that I may have overlooked something when reconsidering your cs...I assure you that I didn't(I even watched the go dan video which was funny to see since most of the students were nothing shy of being scaredy cats). If you can't accept my decision, then you are free to leave at anytime. Though we as gms want you to travel along this journey side by side with us, we don't need you, as someone will be sure to come along to act as your replacement. Now if you decide to stay and revise the sections of your char that is required, then I have a few more things to say. First:

"In a division that can easily be seen as strange what with the christian captain and the seated members in nun's clothing or the glam rocker, both of whom happen to be long time high ranking shinigami to boot, having a more normal person act as a representative to ease others into it all would gel better with recruits. Him wearing what amounts to a shinigami uniform except for a lighter colored, more personal robe would be seen as part of the image. Similar in structure, yet more relaxed and approachable." After thinking about it I'm going to give this some more thought and I'll have a response to you sometime tomorrow.

Second:

"Gunto (lit. military sword): A shinigami version of the Quincy’s Seele Schneider created by the 12th division. It’s geared towards being used as a blade rather than a projectile and, as a reverse engineered reproduction, lacks the original’s ability to loosen and absorb spiritual matter and energy. It still makes for a handy sidearm that can be carried around unnoticed. Developed to better equip lower level shinigami or those who have lost their zanpakuto in some way, it is rather rare because most reapers scoff at wielding such a weapon." This is a no no as well.

And lastly: I see nothing wrong with nothing else so re-do the parts mentioned and you'll be on your way to being accepted ^-^
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My lieutenant character still needs to be approved, co-gm.
Sorry for the wait :( But without further adu, let me jump into it:


@Axel
Happy to have you on board :)
Uh. Random question though. Shouldn't Reila's shikai ability be classified as illusion instead of kido?
Edited and thanks ^-^ I'm surprised I missed that xD

@malmshodes Oh that's fine and glad to be working with you Captain ^-^
I'll add everything else in over the course of the rp. Now who still needs a Lt?



Well I'm going to be working on a second char after I add the finishing touches to my captain, so if anyone is still in need of a lieutanant then you're in luck.
@Axel
An intellectual discussion of characters can serve to improve both those involved and those who witness it. This site seems to always expect the worst outcome from a discussion where two parties disagree. I have one question:

Why?
[/quote] History, simple as that.

@Axel
Nothing good can come from shying away from chances for growth. Discussion and the exchange of ideas is the easiest way to grow intellectually. If discourse is discouraged, the only outcome is stagnation. I've seen faaaaaaaaaar too many games die out simply because nobody could bear to say something that another disagreed with, which led to everyone internalizing their disagreements and eventually just leaving because the joy of the game was gone.
Yes and nothing bad can happen as well. Also all experiences are different so just because something happened to you doesn't mean it will happen to everyone else. I've seen faaaaaar too many games prosper because of the very reasons you said your games die out and I've also seen some crash and burn because of what you desire to happen had happened. Regardless, you do make some solid points and as such, I respect them. On the flip note however, I cannot say I agree with the proposal poses since it carries a larger risk than the alternative.

@Ganryu @Celaira
I don't see a personal attack here. What I see is a serious discussion, and a group of unrelated people blowing it out of proportion in order to save their silly conversation space. I could just as easily ask the silly one-line-that-doesn't-really-contribute-anything-to-the-discussion posters to keep those to PMs and have just as much, if not more, grounds for the request.

@Axel
Telling people to carry out discussions privately essentially tells them their discussion isn't wanted. It does more damage than you'd expect, as there's an implied "your discussion isn't important enough to hold where everyone can see it" message, and even if those involved don't realize it, the message gets across. In this case it's especially bad, as now a co-GM is telling players that a discussion that SHOULD be important to the GMs should not be handled in a place visible to the GMs.
Unless you can read minds, you'd probably want to refrain from saying such things as each person's way of thinking is completely different from yours or mine. Another thing, you should pay more attention to what I wrote before responding to them since I clearly told both parties to include either me or one of the other gms as well in order to resolve it. Lastly, a big portion of your response is mostly based on how you perceive people to think rather than how they actually do so it really made it pointless for me to respond to it when you have no real evidence to support it. For all I know, what you're saying about people interpreting things a certain way could be correct but without bringing nothing to back it up, you're just as believable as the next person. With that said, I hope my response was adequate enough and even though you could perceive this as anything you want sumthin sumthin(xD), I hope you attain something constructive from this response. :)

@Zobozun@yoshua171

Also, include me or one of the other gms as well so we can help resolve it.

@Sodium Even though the OOC is filled with classic small talk, allowing a minor dispute to possibly escalate into a heated argument is foolish since it'll disrupt the atmosphere of things. Remember we're here to have fun and to escape our real world struggles, so anything of this nature should be resolved somewhere else rather than having it here in which it could possibly affect someone else's day unnecessarily.
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