AeronFarron

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And hell, this was pretty pointless. A simple warning devolved into this. My bad everyone.

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Avoiding is good. Very good.

But now this has got me thinking of things to add to my own character to flesh her out. If nothing else, this has given me the time to really flesh out that fighting style of hers that I've been avoiding like the plague.

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Lawless said
Okay, so I took out Akira having a large chakra reserve >.> And him being able to use (Swordsmanship) and have a sword (Katana) V.VAs for the bit regarding chakra consumption in order to produce battle ready offspring, I have concluded that it makes sense for Akira to fill the queen to the brim with chakra to produce 60 eggs. The amount of chakra in the best form of measurement I can think of that you can relate to is based on the rank of normal jutsu. This technique would require the amount of chakra one might deem suitable for that of a C ranked jutsu. And AeronFarron, I begin to wonder if it is you that hasn't read my profile. For the most part, they share a hive mind with the queen which as I've stated Akira has a connection with. I don't truly feel the need to explain the connection to you. Not to mention, it is Akira who can directly influence the actions of even Red Chimeran Hornets you summon due to his connection to the Queen. ._. So summoning them while fighting him wouldn't be particularly useful and would turn against you. I don't quite feel obliged to answer your other questions because I'm unsure if you're attempting to be sarcastic, but I am quite comfortable keeping them as hornets. I prefer them as this, and will not change them simply for your pleasure. You have all hornets at your command, except these Red Chimeran Hornets which I've created. I don't see how this should effect your character in any negative manner unless of course she so attempts to 'use' them against Akira.

Simple, because she can summon ALL hornets. ALL of them. No matter what you say. Her hornets gave up control WILLINGLY, so no, you can't control whatever she decides to summon.

And I was being very serious. You want to make a species? Make a species.

A hive mind? You're kidding right? 1: That requires a higher level of thought natural bugs do not, have not, and cannot possess unless they are a summon. 2: So you're telling me that your character controls the ONLY queen? The for this species that can reproduce at will except for this ONE QUEEN that just so happens to be omnipotent? Um...ok? 3: If these things are known in other countries, shouldn't that have...you know...migrated? What keeps them in one country? How has that country not been decimated?

I'm not doing this for me. I'm doing this so no one cries "FOUL" when I have my character unharmed by your hornets due to her pheromones and intimate knowledge of hornets as a species and subspecies.

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I just can't. This guy is giving these hornets sentience and abilities akin to summons, without actually calling them summons. It's like he wants an Aburame without having the drawbacks of the Aburame. He wants to circumvent nature without a reason why. I was just giving him a head's up, "Hey, my character can do this, just letting you know."

If bugs can keep genjutsu at bay, then my character's pheromones can keep his hornets at bay. Same concept. My character can't CONTROL nature, only influence it.

You have your warning. I'm not pulling any punches, nor am I compromising my character.

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You've stated yourself:
"While his skills as a ninja weren't the most impressive among his peers, Akira takes the spot light from his kin due to his ability to host the red chimeran hornets. A dangerous parasitic insect by nature that ravages the body of most organisms it is allowed to infest. Known as the red mist to many other countries, the red chimeran hornets are native to Iwagakure as dangerous pests that devour all who cross them.

The only other ninja said to have successfully hosted the cruel insects was the First Tsuchikage."

A direct quote. These things are living and breathing. They don't rely on chakra to live, nor do they have a reason to follow your character.

So:
1. How do they communicate? If not pheromones, then what? What keeps them from attacking each other and using each other for their offspring to grow in? The Queen? How does SHE communicate with them?

2: Why exactly does the Queen allow him to control her? Why did she submit, because he gives her chakra?? Why is it HIS chakra? What made him so special? How does HE communicate with HER?

3: If every other hornet belonging to this species uses a host, why does the Queen need chakra? Does it increase her power or something?

4: What in the hell are they feeding off of? The Queen is feeding from chakra for whatever reason. Obviously, if these hornets are within him and hatch in him, that means that they have to EAT their way through his body to get out through his pores, right? Does her have some ability that keeps internal bleeding at bay? Super healing that heals the eaten portions right after the nymphs pass? If the queen is the only one that can breed and doesn't fit the breeding pattern of the rest of her subspecies, then why did you mention the breeding rituals of the ones that don't pertain to your character's circumstances?

5: I did read your attacks. They rely on a swarm/horde mentality to attack. You wrote that in yourself. Does your character communicate telepathically with the swarm to use them as an attack? If so, why bother with the Queen? If not, then does that mean that there is a time delay so he can ask the queen's permission? If they communicate, can the queen refuse? Can she even think? Is she unconcerned with passing on her genetic data via breeding? How does she even produce these eggs if all of the drones are, you know, being sacrificed?

You didn't make a species, you made a tool. Well, my character uses the same tool, just be happy I gave you a heads up.

Just make these things bees. Easy, simple, no problems. Besides, you already have your clan somehow raise them in harmony...when Hornets are natural predators of Bees, but screw logic right?

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Not saying they'd be useless. I'm saying that he'd have to really have a strong control or strong relationship to overcome it. I'm not going to compromise my character when I'm giving him plenty of time to think of a work around. I made my character, it was accepted as she was. He wants to use these, he needs to figure it out. That is going to be a GLARING plot hole and make me seem like an idiot. No thank you.

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Lawless said
Actually AeronFarron, your character's ability to understand hornets makes no difference. Understanding them means nothing, nor does your summoning contract with said hornets. As long as you're not summoning Red Chimeran Hornets, we should be on the same page. Summoning contracts do not give one control over the thing summoned at all, usually it is an understanding between the summoner and the thing summoned. Not to mention it doesn't give one control over something that someone else summoned, even if it is the same species. Ex. Aoda & Sasuke and Gamakichi & Jiraiya. Compare and contrast to Sasuke & Manda. And simulating their pheremones doesn't give you any level of control over them. FYI.

Pheromones are incredibly important to hornets as a species. Natural hornets don't speak and don't really communicate with motions or verbal cues. They communicate primarily via pheromones. So if my character can simulate and manipulate the very thing all hornets use as communication, that is a lot more control than you think. She can easily simulate a "friendly" pheromone, which given the aggressive nature of the hornets you've created, would be incredibly powerful. Their basic instinct would tell them to leave her alone.

Aggression in insects and animals (humans included) typically means that they don't have cognitive responses, they don't stop and analyze, they follow their basic nature. Couple a horde mindset (which they seem to have) with a base nature, add in extreme aggression, and the fact that they are not summons: they probably identify friend or foe as well as attack commands by pheromones.

Now, I'll forgive you not reading my temp before you formulated your response. Had you done so, you'd have seen that the largest species of hornets (that I've made and was accepted) for Hornet summons had chosen to become her signature summons and to basically raise her. Her kekkei genkai evolved, over time, to allow her to understand them in their natural form of communication, as they lack the type of mouth that allows them to speak as a human does. Since the hornets communicated just as natural hornets do, she can understand them via pheromones, flight patterns, as well as behaviors and the seasons. Her summon is not restricted to one species, but all hornets. Now, when I made this, I wasn't expecting anyone else to choose to control hornets(what a coincidence), so I made the summon a blanket summon (much like most summons) So yes, she can summon your hornets.

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*WEREWOLF SMASH!*

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chukklehed said
What's wrong with greedy? *Absently pats bulging coin purse of stolen septims while thinking about piles of precious gems at home*Also did you not see my PM Sole or did you just have no reply?

Stop stealing septims. *turns into a werewolf*

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chukklehed said

haha!!!