AeronFarron

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Leonerdo said
Thanks, but I assure you we all know how gender transitions work. This wasn't relevant to the conversation anyways.

it is very relevant to the conversation. Because this is the process itself. The fact that you say it isn't relevant worries me.

This is what she has learned, step by step, this would be a process she would have been exposed to. she believes she is interacting with someone whom she believes is transgendered or in process, she is comparing them to something like this. She looks to see if someone has had facial surgery, an adam's apple, the tone of voice, evidence of hormone therapy, height, bone structure, hip width, shoulder width, hand size, arm/leg length. This sort of knowledge would be her guide in her making her calls. She is very well informed and quite smart. She isn't pulling this out of her ass, she is matching what she sees to what she knows, on paper and with her own experiences. As I finish her history, you'll learn that she has been in various support groups so she could learn about living life as a transmale or transfemale. It is still pretty different for her specifically though because she IS NOT transgendered, but intersexed.

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Mr Allen J said
Alright then, we should do it over in PMs plox. It's late and I have shit to do tomorrow. I should be getting to bed

alright. Night

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Mr Allen J said
Can we just reach a compromise here and just say that Quinn Theresa is trans?Due to her power, Tess can't take hormone therapy. All natural.

Then you and I need to talk. Very, very extensively.

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http://www.albertatrans.org/mtf.shtml

Read that please guys, so maybe you can see where I am coming from. Transitions are not something that you can change a few things and bam! New gender.

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And sorry, it doesn't work that way. Being NATURALLY androgynous is a very different look from someone that is Mid-Operation. Which, I've been meaning to ask about, Allen:

Is Tess taking hormones?

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Here's the thing, and I am sure I said this in Quinn's profile:

SHE IS STILL GOING THROUGH DECIDING IF SHE WANTS TO TRANSITION OR NOT.

I am not setting the course of the role play, I am setting the course of MY character. She is drawing on her own LEGITIMATE experiences and LEGITIMATE knowledge to draw such conclusions. It isn't just "my trans senses are tingling". It is a part of it, yes, but look at how Quinn has been acting. She has taken her eyes off of Tess once in their entire interaction. She has been studying Tess and listening to her. She has looked her over quite extensively, and Tess has shown her face. As Jazz describes it in Tess' appearance section, her face is very masculine with the chin and jawline, but is somewhat given a feminine nature thanks to the scarf. The jawline is very difficult to shape and is quite expensive to do correctly. In the same vein is the chin. Quinn would know this as she shares a similar trait and thus would need to go through the process to become a full female.

And I didn't say anything about "good" soldiers. I said that soldiers that have seen combat can easily recognize soldiers that are green and soldiers that have seen combat. It has nothing to do with knowing their service record or even being in the same station as them. It isn't just a feeling. They can recognize it in the way they carry themselves and in how they talk or move. They recognize it because they see it in a mirror.

Quinn is a character that is drawing on her own personal experiences to make a call. Good or bad, it doesn't matter. It is a HUMAN call, and one that she is perfectly capable of making based on her personality.

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Jazzy said
Aeron, I don't care in the slightest what you can just 'feel'. What I care about is metagaming, which is exactly what you are doing.If she knows it, explain it. If you cant explain it, deal with your character not knowing.

Metagaming is an "out of character" action where a player's character makes use of knowledge that the player is aware of but that the character is not meant to be aware of.

I'm sorry, there is a character on this RP that can tell what your power is just by looking at you and can use that knowledge to her advantage.

Metagaming in this instance would be my character knowing why someone is transition, from which gender to which other gender, how they feel about it and would know exactly how to help them transition.

Quinn can't do that. She still needs to ask and confirm. She still has to talk to the person, and that is if she even cares to learn more. If you slow your roll and allow the two characters to actually finish the conversation before calling "Metagaming", you would learn how she knows and why.

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Jazzy said
Personally I think it would be impossible for her to tell (Growing up with it or not) unless she pulled down Tess' shirt to reveal that her boobs were actually oranges, but hey, if Allen's cool with it I will be too. Just don't do it to any of my characters.

It isn't impossible for people cut of a similar cloth to not recognize certain attributes within others based solely on personal experiences or extended exposure to it. Pulling down someone's shirt isn't a good way to "prove" something like this. Breasts can be added on surgically to just about anyone.
It will take an exceptionally long time to explain why it is not impossible in the least, but I'll condense it: Experiences resonate. Soldiers that have been in combat can easily pick out who is green and who else has seen combat, with just a meeting of the eyes. Rape victims can recognize other victims with just a glance. Heck, in my experiences, musicians can often tell whom else is a musically inclined. Best way that I can explain, there is just something that you can feel. You can see it in the way someone may talk, act, think, or do stuff. It is in the way they carry themselves, the way they dress or interact with others.

For someone like Quinn that has spent her ENTIRE life dealing with this, literally from birth til now, she can recognize when someone is transitioning. Now what exactly is it, she doesn't know. Tess could be female transitioning to male, or male transitioning to female. Maybe she is like Quinn and is in the process of getting corrective surgery. Quinn knows Tess is transitioning, but she doesn't know it what capacity or why. She doesn't know when or how or what medication/hormones (if any) that Tess is taking. So yes, I will continue to RP my character as she is. If you make/have a character whom is in transition, or post transition, she will recognize it and she may or may not comment on it

Pokemon Colosseum: What Remains

The young woman listened quietly then looked up when Ross finished. "I uh...I am adopted. As my parents tell me, they found me near a shrine to an ancient Pokemon. My mother says that my father was the one that found me. They raised mw with their two older boys. We lived a quiet enough life, but I was bullied a lot. Gabite, he was a Gible then, was just as protective of me as he is now. We ended up moving to Orre when he hospitalized a boy that...well...let's just say it wasn't going to be pretty." she paused and sighed deeply.

"I was a burden to them. A responsibility that I felt they didn't need. I ran away from here for a few months, Gible followed me. When I returned, my brothers gave me this one." she patted her Metang happily. "Shortly after that...Cipher tortured and killed my eldest brother. He was an outspoken man, and he made sure Cipher knew that he hated everything they stood for." her voice grew quiet.

"He was never violent, never raised a hand against them. They captured him, tortured him, then dismembered him...then left a box with his body at my home. As a message."

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Mr Allen J said
It'd be pretty funny if she got it wrong, though.

it would be, hence why she didn't specify if she meant FTM or MTF.