Darkmatter

Chronicles Of Enduwin ~ Mature Fantasy RP

Kiddo said
20,000 is a huge number compared to a band of five adventurers :P And not only does your dragon breathe fire, but she's also completely impervious to weapons. Also, there are only 4 characters so far, and one of them is a traveling bard with nothing but his good-at-bardness to commend him, so yeah, two of three :PAlso, I don't think that Sam is a powerful enough magic user to inspire a goblin to be his familiar. If he were still within a Cirk, then it could work (a goblin would actually be well-suited to live in your traveling bands), but since Sam's not, no goblin for him!Actually, none of the characters except for the dragon are magical enough so far! Kind of a bummer, since as passive as the dragon is, she'd make a boring master, and with how little she cares about human affairs, she's not likely to have actually met and attracted any goblins.A question about magic: you say that magic gets distilled through generations. Does this mean that the magic of dead people does not re-enter the system? And if a species were to live in the Sands for generations, would they slowly absorb some of that magic to maybe counter this loss, or even provide a net gain?(A hint at what I'm thinking: goblins have no qualms about cannibalism ;))

The sands of the desert aren't the same sand. I know it's confusing.
Think of it this way. Life is magic, the sand was used as to give form to function. Dead people don't lose their magic, it still exist in the world, but more people are born than die, so over time the amount on average in each person, decreases dramatically.

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NewSun said
You should chase up some people who expressed interest earlier, see if they're making characters or whatnot. Though i'd also expect a few to jump in once there's an OOC, right?

Both of these things yes.
:)

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InspectorGadget said
I have no problem with Sariloth not joining the main party. I was planning on playing her like that anyway. As far as I can tell, neither of my characters will be part of the main group, but intersecting parts that come and go as needed. I work a lot and have a bunch of obligations so people waiting for me to post for hours at a time isn't what I want. Plus I'm not much on making "good" characters that tag along in a group and fight the baddies. I may make a mercenary (i can handle bunches of characters at once), but we will see where we are after the IC is up and chugging along. Two of the three characters mentioned as OP are mine... I thought 20,000 was a relatively small number. And she just breathes fire... :(

Just on the age thing, tone it down a bit maybe?. I would see a very old dragon as being 6000 years. Just my opinion on the matter.

Work was heavy today so I'll get the actual RP going over the coming days. Looking forward to getting more characters.

I'm thinking like a 3-5 character main party, 3-4 side characters, 3-4 main antagonistic characters. Thoughts from you guys?

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Kiddo said
Alright, I 'mma add in my goblins when I find a nice chunk of time and a keyboard.Only problem I see is that my character is... ah, very underpowered relative to the other PCs I'm seeing. Doesn't have an army at his command, isn't a dragon, and doesn't have magical swords and leet skills. I might need to talk with someone with a strong wizard about having my character tag along as their familiar.

The guy with an army is an antagonist. The dragon is either going to be a non party character or nerfed somehow and yeah the knight is pretty legit but I mean a the party isn't meant to be super OP.

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NewSun said
Absolutely, but each character will have their own motivations and goals, no?

Indeed

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There is a main story, just in case people were wondering. There is a definite path to follow.

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Yes, and several things have tried to fly over it. A lot die in attempting because of its sheer size. Those that make it, well they aren't heard from. Whether it truly is the gate to Neyav is a bit ambiguous.

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So I've read all the posts and it just likes good natured discussion which is exactly what we need. Didn't see anything particular questions that need answering.

@Inspector how do you feel about the dragon not being in the main party. I was thinking, if it is ok with you, that she could be a side character/counsel/boss/challenge. It's up to you of course though :)

I'll get an actual RP thread up later today :)

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InspectorGadget said
I'd be up for the dragon conversation. I mostly joke about Gandalf because he always seems to do nothing. I'm sure he is bad ass but you never see it. I don't know if they described the battle with the Balrog in the books but for all we know (based on the movies) they're down in that pit sipping tea and playing backgammon. "I guess I should get back to the hobbit. He's probably nervous by now." "Alright dude, Dap it! And the stairs are over there." I suppose that I should pick them back up now that I'm older. They just left a bad taste in my brain the first time though. Anyway. Back on topic!

Dude? Did you just not watch the movies.
Just watch this and we can end the chat

I'll go find the dragon convo

EDIT: Aforementioned conversation regarding dragons and magic

Darkmatter and DeadCruiser said
Darkmatter: Ok so basically I came up with what I thought is a pretty cool way of doing/explaining magic enduwin.
So all the creatures were fashioned out of Trayig's, one of the gods, very body and essence.
Therefore magic was passed into life like that. However, it would have only been the orignals of each species that were directly made from Trayig's sand and so with each generation that passes the magical ability wanes. Therefore in a creature like a human, who lives relatively short lifespans and therefore has had many generations, magic has waned significantly. For most races it would be like this but with some variation obviously, with many many people knowing a simple trick or too but real wizards/witches/warlocks being very few and far between. True magical ability would no longer come from the sand directly that would have waned significantly, but through a secondary connection to a god with the sand as a conduit if that makes sense? A rare occurrence.

But dragons can live exceptionally long, hundreds if not thousands of years. meaning they've had less generations and are considerably more magically active than other species.

Just the idea i was tossing around. They could still be innately magical themselves but then they would more likely be very few in number.

Thoughts?

Cruiser: That all sounds fine to me. Perhaps the waning magical essence within the mortal races leads them to require magical implements. Wands, staves, grimoires and all of that sort of thing. I would think that the actual magical difference between generations is not an especially noticeable one, but has none the less mounted to the populace being almost entirely mundane. It makes one think that history would be full of legendary heroes and monsters and whatnot, and such tales have declined only because magic no longer supports such grandiosity.

But it meshes fine with what I'm offering, since it's all just stories, after all.

And yes, I figure that dragons breed very slowly, and there are only a handful of them in the world for quite a few reasons. The foremost being that dragons simply don't like each other, in general, and getting a pair to couple is a rare event in and of itself. Then consider that every dragon considers every other dragon to be a major rival, and you'll have a lot of infanticide going on.

My character that I'm planning would actually be a relatively old dragon, though wiser than most, in possession of a rather fickle temper. After one too many times he took his aggravation out on the local populace, a band of wizards took it upon themselves to subdue him. Considering killing him to be out of the question, they instead polymorphed him into a human shape, sealing away most of his magical power. He has since spent the last couple of centuries wandering the lands under the guise of a powerful sorcerer in search of a means to return himself to his true form and power.

Darkmatter: Yeah wizards, those left, would definitely be looking for objects that have retained power. Yes it is a gradual process. You wouldn't notice much from grandfather to grandson but go back a few hundred years and the difference is apparent. Now of course not everyone knows that it is waning or that it once was so mighty or why it is waning etc. People know this but not everyone.

Well the kind of power to trap a dragon in a human body would only have existed nearly a thousand years ago by my reckoning but if you want it to be more recent than that, say a few hundred years I am good with that too.

Cruiser: I figured that it would be quite a feat to accomplish in the first place, much less have it so effective that the dragon is having such great trouble undoing it. Thus why I mentioned that it was the work of several wizards. All the more reason that he can't just track down the wizard to have it undone; they would need to be together again to do so.

Maybe I could write in some sort of artifact being used as a part of the ritual. I don't want to clash with your perception of the state of magic, but having him in human form for a thousand years makes you think that he's gotten used to it or something. As it is, I kind of picture him as Clint Eastwood cast in the role of Gandalf.

I do have other character ideas, though. Perhaps a very young dragon, practically a hatchling by their standards, living among humans after being orphaned.

Darkmatter: Tbh I really like this idea for a character and Eastwood as gandalf is a great image.
See I would say that even after a thousand years he wouldn't be used to it. It may be cliched but perhaps part of the spell kept him inactive for a few hundred years so he hasn't actually been toiling for a millenia. Just a thought.

Cruiser: Hm. I'm still thinking that a thousand years would be "too damn long" even by dragon standards. I figure that the very oldest dragons would be, what, maybe five thousand years old? Two hundred years is long enough to be "frustratingly long" by dragon standards. I think he'd just start to go crazy after the 700 mark, especially considering that he'd be forced to adapt to a mortal sense of time.

The sort of hibernation isn't a bad idea, but it reminds me a lot of another character concept I came up with for a different RP, which was a nightmare from beginning to end. Perhaps some "old magicks" are at work or something?

Darkmatter: Say he was youngish when it happened so we can stretch. Maybe 300 years at a push? Maybe it was more than a couple mages, maybe it was a large thing involving a lot of people pooling small amounts of magic together, Dozens of wizards, apprentices and even some gifted common folk from a large area that he was terrorizing.

Cruiser: That could work, but then if there's so many people involved, there develops a plot hole of "if you had this much manpower, why isn't you couldn't just kill him?"

Darkmatter: He's an evil magical dragon. Plus it could/would have become a myth in the area blurring some of the details as it is exaggerated. Maybe the entrapment was an on the spot call when they couldn't kill him.

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InspectorGadget said
I tried to read the books. And I tried to watch the films. Dragonlance was always more my thing. I don't particularly like Tolkien's writing style. I know, I know. That's blasphemous. I couldn't get into them at all. So he isn't a human. But that doesn't make him awesome or cool. Just old. Really, really old. But I can tell that I am dealing with an avid lover of the novels and I won't hate on your love of them. Raistlin is a real wizard though. I will have a dragon for you soon.

Awww dude don't go bashing it if you don't know it.
Gandalf is actually a demigod trapped in human form if you translate tolkiens wording to more common tongue. Or maybe a champion of the gods would make more sense. Either way he had power enough to defeat the Balrog, create a blinding sun on two separate occasions and even mentally outbattled Sauron.

ANNNYYWWAAAYYSSSSSSSS I look forward to seeing this dragon. I discussed the topic of dragons with another player previously if you wish to see that conversation?