darkwolf687

Untold Empires: Legacy of the Old

There is the carrot and the stick as such a method, which many nations used. While it does build up a list of supporters, these are generally still a minority and require government support for suppression. There are exceptions, of course. British support was high in some colonies to the point some who gained independence didn't have a majority show wanted it (one of these non-majority states resulted in an embarrassing incident for the decolonisation committee when an independent country had a revolution to rejoin the British), the Romans managed to keep control of the eastern lands through loyalists and actually sort of assimilated with them to form the Byzantine Empire while the west fell into chaos, the Chinese in the current day keep control by having support in the built up, rich cities even though the peasants in the country almost invariably live in poverty.

Of course, your mileage may vary on whether it succeeds or not, I don't see many people jumping in favour of the nazi party, and they just loved this tactic. You have to combine fear and the carrot, and even then it eventually fails and you end up with some form of rebellion. (Examples: American revolution, Operation Valkyrie, etc)

Getting support is hard, your Loyalists are almost invariably a minority, at least at first. It would take some generations to get a loyalist majority (And you have to have given them a tonne of very, very good reasons to be loyal), and even then your mileage may vary yet again. It also depends on what you did to take them over. If you invaded and destroyed their government they will likely be pissed. If you invaded, destroyed their government, outlawed their culture, killed their civilians, burnt their towns and pillaged their coffers, they will be very, very pissed

Void of the Stars II: Return to the Stars [Sci-Fi] [Always Accepting]

Uh, keyguy, there are no collective ships. They left after they laid down a space mine field of sorts, set up a handful of automated defences and flooded several areas of the system with small sized pieces of scrap (Since the Imperial Ships will be phasing in from another universe, the idea was many would end up entering in the same zone as the scrap, causing massive damage to chunks of their fleet and weakening them, then the mines will close in and the turrets will open fire. Once the Imperial fleet has been weakened from these defences and the Sol systems populations defences as well as the Equestrian forces, the Collective would wait for the right time, if any, to jump in with fresh and undamaged ships and deliver a knockout blow.)

FOR THE EMPEROR!

"Cleanse, Purge, Kill!"

Hello ;p

Void of the Stars II: Return to the Stars [Sci-Fi] [Always Accepting]

Keyguyperson said
True, a Common Sense War RP would be pretty independent. As for knowing the outcome, that can still be fun. In fact, we could even set it in an alternate universe, so we wouldn't know the outcome.

Meh, I am fine whether we do it or not

Interstellar ~ Ascension

Hey Darkmatter, seeing how you are the one who accepted it, do I need to change it from a Quadrant to Major Regional power?

Void of the Stars II: Return to the Stars [Sci-Fi] [Always Accepting]

Yeah... It was the reapers among other, less dangerous (but still very, very dangerous) extra-universals...

Untold Empires: Legacy of the Old

Well, this was a complete collapse of order...

Untold Empires: Legacy of the Old

Commonwealth announcement

"I, speaking for the commonwealth assembly also known as the Commonwealth Parliament, am pleased to announce the triumph of democracy and peace in Africa and Europe, with Yugoslavia ending military action and enacting a way in which to peacefully incite nations to join. I also announce that in two days time, in the nation of Pakistan, a referendum shall be held on whether Pakistan should hold a referendum to join with Wehdaistan. If there is sufficient popular support for a referendum, one shall be held two years from that day.
I regret to temper the achievements and good of the world with an ominous announcement... This Union is now at war with the Empire of America. Action is to be taken by our forces with all due haste...."

Commonwealth activity

Referendum on whether to spend money to hold a 2 year campaign period in Pakistan on Pakistan cessesion to Wehdaistan is to be held
Supplies have been given to rebels in Central America and Mexico. Forces have launched from the British Carribean and, a small forces has landed in Belize to assist the rebels there, while the remainder of the forces have landed on and around Florida and are pushing up.
Bombers from Bermuda have begun raids on EoA military sites along the east coast, while forces have also begun their journey from the UK and Ireland towards Canada to liberate Canada. As of yet, the Commonwealth has not used any WMD's, and has condemned the use of EoA's chemical weaponry.

Void of the Stars II: Return to the Stars [Sci-Fi] [Always Accepting]

Hang on, didn't the Sazkarjhit survive the universal war? There doesn't appear to be any change in their state and everything appears to be the same, implying they never fell. Even if they were advancing relatively slowly, Sazkarjhit probably have the lead or at the very least be around the same level...

Untold Empires: Legacy of the Old

Senor Herp said
Uh. Y-yeah. Right. B-because I was agreeing with you, sure! Nothing wrong with quasi-invincible space stations and dwarf planets with a faint-praise disadvantage of thermonuclear vulnerability that's soon going to be eliminated anyways, yeah. Yeah, yeah, sure, and having stable cold fusion's also okay, because, y'know, fits right into a space shuttle just fine with per-engine arrays of them, because it's SCARCE and TOTALLY NOT GOING INTO MASS PRODUCTION AND EARTH-POWER LEND-LEASE AT THE EARLIEST OPPORTUNITY, no, no, it's fine! I mean, I was going to have some silly thermoelectric-magnetic nuclear fission nonsense generators that run on tickling nuclear bomb's dickholes, so I'd be a hypocrite to interject, no, surely. I mean, it's always at risk of catastrophic meltdown and release of stellar-ass atomic rays if things go wrong, very much as advantaged and less disadvantaged to stable seemingly-cold fusion. That's good, and so are 'energy screens' completely unexplained even with silly mid-sci tier Kojima Particle junk science. I'm cool with, y'know, hitscan point defense that has entirely outstripped the previously-far-ahead sciences of missile design and making & delivering things to go boom, with weak defenses of 'but if you threw arbitrarily more conventional missiles they'd get through and do nothing and surely nukes could do no good unless half the warheads of most modern MIRV systems were launched of which we have had tens of thousands of which totally have ultra-bulky warheads and not roughly man-sized ones, which could not possibly miniaturize by post-WW4 2070.' I mean, the vibes of 'I'm totally going to hold the entire solar system hostage whether or not I get past the seemingly-crippling but actually likely to be quickly obsoleted disadvantage of resource shortages and if I do I'll just do it even harder' is probably just fallacious paranoia! Right? Yeah, yeah, right. Nothing wrong with bragging about getting biodome CITIES OF THE FUTURE built everywhere as a standard, outstripping Earth's capabilities of high-industry production, and a thinly-veiled-behind-reactionism desire for hijacking sovereign power's space colonies in blatant aggression because we MUST be conspiring against you, clearly, which is also why we're daring to poke at these entirely nonextant problems with your way of going about things in play, narrative, and overall pregame design! It's not like it's absolutely, completely and utterly uncompelling to see the narrative potentially reduced to space expansionism, resource dickery and Yeyland-Wutani execs blandly going on about necessities of nonnecessary dick actions that we will be told we couldn't possibly effectively respond to while eroding any environment for exploration of a potential future in 2070 with extremely heavy slant towards reactionary blocs in contrast to our present time of democratic-capitalist-militarist and vaguely national-theocratic, national-capitalist or national-communist ones, or in the social, economic and ideological troubles of living in said 2070 blocs, or even silly Metal Gear tier characters doing CUHRAYZEE things and engaging in long-winded but somewhat hilariously contrasting explorations of the former themes, in favor of bland few-paragraph descriptions of Biggus Dickus Maximus the Low Gravity But Also Paradoxically Huge Space Marine and his adventures of no-counterattack-space shuttle technology-denialist air strikes against old launch sites for reasons, eroding things even harder than the present massive expansionist blocs' trouble of getting right into the military nitty-gritty a bit too fast in my opinion, but not plot-endangeringly so. That's great, I like that! Very much to my taste! Just, no changes, we should clearly keep going, like this, full steam ahead. Stay the course. The present OOC shitstorm before I've even managed to get my first collab out for the Great American Clusterfuck and also including a hard-sci-fi someone who hasn't even put their application in yet is not at all a sign that you are doing ANYTHING wrong, in any respect of the writing, at all.i'm sorry

Bahahaha!

But...

I thought it was it Weyland-Yutani, not Wutani?