Halo

I am filled with righteous anger

Marik said
or maybe you couldumnot leave your stuff laying around where thieves have free access?

Yes, let's place blame on people who have been wronged rather than the people who committed immoral actions, because they were asking for it, guys. Holy shit.

Which FF game is worth getting?

*has only played FFXIII*
*feels like maybe I judged FF too early*

Help me grow my game list Spam

POKEMON.
Also ditto Advance Wars.

we have nine planets again!!

mdk said
The victory conditions were stacked in our favor. All we had to do was fight Britain to a stalemate unfavorable enough that they'd give up. The prospect of maintaining an American colony had to be so prohibitively expensive that any future attempts at control would be untenable. Which, turns out, was easy to accomplish -- simply by being in a state of open rebellion, Washington's mere existence was proof that we could not be ruled. It didn't matter that his army always lost -- , and he would always have an army -- would always be able to find international support from enemies of Britain, would always find colonists willing to replenish his ranks, would always and forever occupy *some* british territory *somewhere*, and nothing about that is a wise investment for an evil Redcoat overlord. TLDR -- of course America won. We had the smallest, poorest, worst-trained and badly led troops, but we also had the simplest victory conditions. That's the same thing currently giving us trouble in the middle east, too. It doesn't matter that you can kill a thousand terrorists with the click of a mouse -- that doesn't fuck with their odds of winning *at all*.

Aaannnnddd this (amongst other reasons) is exactly why I said this:

Halo said Although thinking about it, I prefer the question "were the rebels actually the underdogs?" more than "could the British have beaten them?" That'd be much more fun to argue. >:3

But it's still undeniable that the British could have won at multiple points despite those victory conditions being stacked against them. You say "of course America won" - well, uh, actually, no, it was never that clear-cut. America would always have gained independence eventually, one day, for the reasons you said or as part of the collapse of the British empire, but there was absolutely no guarantee that Washington would win independence with his rebellion (indeed, he very nearly lost multiple times and only got away with it via luck and foreign aid.)

Uh, guys, help...

Dervish said
Haha. Papa Spooky. I just use Nexus mod manager. If it was any easier, it would involve child labour.

idlehands said
I love Nexus mod manager. I can keep all my beastality BDSM Skyrim mods in order.

well that got dark quick

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Aragorn said
Explain the American revolution. Underdogs ftw.

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I was gonna write out a huge post explaining why, but I don't want to get into a debate with all the 'murrikans here. It suffices to say that a colossal portion of the rebellion's victory was to do with luck, and to do with the aid of foreign nations who wanted to mess with Britain (the French in particular, as well as the Spanish and Dutch, all sided with the US at various points, if I recall correctly). And also, I think, to do with the fact that (particularly, but not solely, at the beginning of the war) the British (or, rather, Howe) were not willing to go all-out. Had they been, the rebellion would have been crushed very early on.

Although thinking about it, I prefer the question "were the rebels actually the underdogs?" more than "could the British have beaten them?" That'd be much more fun to argue. >:3

EDIT: Not that I'm claiming to be an expert on the Revolutionary War. I've never studied it in detail; my opinions on it are based mainly on what I've read around the internet from historians every single time this argument comes up.

Uh, guys, help...

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Smiral said
remember that time Pally said that he, Nargle, and I should totally have a Homestuck themed threesome

Pretty sure he was kidding.
Pretty sure.

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Kangaroo said
You disappoint me. It's goddamn Pluto, the perennial underdog

I'm English. I consume underdogs for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
Which unfortunately turns into self-cannibalism during the World Cup, but aside from then...

I got a bucket of chicken...

If you buy a chicken in the supermarket, chances are it is a female chicken. That is fact. Of course you can eat males, it's meat like any other meat - usually as capons after they've been castrated (and therefore develop similarly to females.) But having just looked this up, it appears that female chickens are preferred and are the ones generally sold in supermarkets and such, due to better meat quality (and other, more logistical reasons.)