Dutchbag said
I thought you guys were working on posts.
Dutchbag said
PM is more important. Also, you put available manpower down.
Jorick said
Just because you don't agree with his opinions doesn't mean he isn't good at the secular humanism thing. But yeah, I figured that would be your reason for disliking it. We could skip having any sort of debate on the matter and ag
Jorick said Hah, that term. It amuses me that people felt the need to relabel secular humanism as "New Atheism" just because Dawkins and Hitches and others got big sales with their books. But yeah, I can understand why you'd be hesitant to bring up specifics, because I can guarantee that there would indeed be debate, and I'd almost certainly be one of those arguing against you.
Atheism+ and its ilk are garbage, largely because they're not "New Atheism" in any way. They have all sorts of dogma at work and reject a lot of reason (particularly that which contradicts their dogma), so they don't fit into the modern secular humanist category that is "New Atheism."
To me that's the same as saying "I knowing he's a raping, murdering, racist homophobic lunatic. But he's a nice guy if you get to know him".
Not in the sense that I claim all religious people are like that (In fact, that's not what I'm implying in the slightest). But in terms of how I view the Religion itself.
The good and bad are all part of that religion, and I'm not going to ignore all the vile stuff in the religion just cause it might also have some good in it.
Marduk said
Modern history is so incredibly boring. @-@.