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Pope, you are seriously starting to piss me off. Maybe it is because it is late, maybe I'm just tired, but I'm ticked off enough that I'm not really sure I care what kind of an upset this is going to cause.

You are making me feel pathetic. Every time you try and tell me how your brain works you make me feel incompetent. Great, so you can remember every tiny detail about a story instantly. Congratulations, you plot out your characters so well in your head that you know what kind of cake they had for their fourteenth birthday before the story even begins. Do you have any idea how bad that makes me feel? Writing is one of the only things in which I can pride myself, but in every way I fall short ofn The Great Pope Alessandros. I can never quite match his standards.

You dive into a story set on what you want. And of course you say that you really want my input, but secretly, I bet, you already have everything worked out in your head. It is great if what I propose fits with what you already have, but of it doesn't you are going to fight tooth and nail until I get so frustrated that we go with what you want. Because that way it fits perfectly with the character you already know everything about.

Go write a book if you want to know everything. Because you can't know everything in a roleplay. It leaves no room for your partner. None at all.
Yeah, that came up in conversation with T'Shara more than once. I don't usually do character sheets, because I am a strong practitioner in the belief that the best writers should be able to reveal their character through writing, but I'm also willing to accommodate on this.

Although, honestly, I have no idea how you want to do a character sheet for these characters. Because, in the beginning, they aren't... physical, are they? They are just Weavers. So, while there might be an impression of fingers and eyes, they wouldn't be, like, sitting out in empty space as humans. And I also can't really imagine my character limited to one form, either. Nor do I think I would be able to describe a personality. I'm not good at that at the best of times, because most of the time my characters take on a life of their own. On one as abstract as this, the last thing I would want to do is rope myself into a personality that can't be changed, and find out it doesn't work. So what would we be describing in the character sheets?
Ultimately, I was fully prepared and willing to work with both. So, if you feel a stronger and more intrinsic pull towards the negative, by all means. I think I've probably had some deeper, more entertaining thoughts about the Positive, anyways.

So, where does that leave us? Do we have anything left to discuss, or is it time to begin?
That sounds very reasonable to me. I am thinking, though, because they are very similar to gods, that, once the thing has been created, they can each pretty much manipulate it any way they want. Of course, the one towards which they are more inclined, positive or negative, is the manipulation that would be easier for them. But they can both do some pretty outrageous things. Not that they would, per se, because I would imagine that they are both fairly balanced individuals, but, should they need to, they could create, more than a breeze, but a tornado or hurricane.
Please do take it as a compliment. But that doesn't mean that I encourage further development of that particular trait, as it also sometimes goes hand-in-hand with ass-ish-ness.

I'd be willing to go with that. But do they require the aid of each other to manipulate that which is already in existence, or only to create something that has not yet existed? Also, what about everything that isn't life? Rocks and mountains and water and air? Does that take both of them as well?
Eh, I know I've done the same thing. That may be part of the reason we butt heads so much. So it is an interesting experience to be on the receiving end. I don't meet many partners who are stronger willed than I am.

Yeah. I do. It is a simple idea, but there are lots of layers of complexity within it as well. When we start really digging into it, we should get some interesting things.

Nah. Surprisingly, she actually went into her crate to puke, instead of puking on the carpet. So it was easy to clean up. Smelled like shit, but you probably didn't want or need to know that...

I do like the idea that one had more than the other, so long as they do both have both. However... I do think that we want to be able to do things independently. But, since everything in the world needs to have both positive and negative to exist, and we can both weave positive and negative, I'm not sure that ownership would really be a thing. I would say, though, that the best, most complicated creations (like mortals) would require both of our inputs. While simpler things, insects, fungi, etc. can be done by just one.
A little bit, but the way I've been acting, it probably doesn't hurt to over-explain things at the moment..

I realized what you might have meant after I replied. When you said positive and negative, I immediately jumped to the idea that you meant things that are "positive" as in good, and things that are "negative", as in bad. But I wasn't certain, one way or another so that is why I ended with asking for a clarification. And I certainly got one. lol I guess that probably says something about what kind of person I am, but whatever.

But, yeah. Now that I've managed to get my head wrapped around it correctly, what you have suggested is actually quite elegant. Yeah.

My dog just puked all over the place, and I've got a bunch of clean-up in front of me. Please, elaborate, while I try not to think. Or, not elaborate, but whatever is next.
Ummm... I'd rather not. Mostly because sorting things into positive and negative is entirely... by point of view. Positive and negative are impressions. We need something that... is what it is, I think. But the only thing that keeps coming to mind is constant and chaos, and I'm not sure that is right. Any other suggestions? Or an explanation for positive and negative?
So, in the beginning, they don't know what exactly they are doing, or what they are working with? That seems like it might make it hard to... do anything. I'm happy to let them figure out their purpose as they go along, but maybe we should at least pick the two things they will be weaving? Or not...?

Maybe, if we leave it abstract, we could change with what they are weaving over time? Like, it isn't just two things, but an infinite number of things put into two groups?
That sounds very reasonable. Perhaps not structure out of chaos, but rather order out of conflict. There needs to be some purpose for us, some reason to weave.

Do you think we should do more than two things? As the essences? Or do you think two is enough?

I think, to fully be able to determine what the purpose of the weaving is, we need to know what the things we would be weaving together are. Agree?
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