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I have no idea. I wont' be paying for it in all probability. So I have no idea what factions and classes are currently planned to be available for free. I remember when the game first started to be talked about one of the devs said something about only orks being free to play. But now apparently there are going to be a small group of classes for each. I have no idea.

If I had to choose. Maybe a dire avenger. I can assume thst would be free to play from the elder side. Maybe a devastator marine or an ork shoota. it all depends on how much a free account would be permitted.
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I forget which book but there is also a conversation between Dorn and Sigmisund about the wasted lives and lost potential after starring at the vacant XI and XVIII plinths in the palace. As if he remembered their respective destructions. I think there was even a theory that the blood ravens were one of those chapters. Spoken by a chaos sorcerer.

Ya, Its safe to say that whatever happened they were probably disbanded, destroyed and re-intergrated into other chapters. And it all happened fairly early in the crusades.
You could just create a splinter warband. Or rename a recently turned traitor chapter. That happens all the time.

And the second and 11th legions didn;t go missing. It is implied heavily that they were destroyed by Imperial order. The other primarchs met those others and refused to talk about them for some shameful reason. GW hints that the space wolves destroyed one and the other is actually believed to have been integrated into the ultramarines which accounted in part for their massive size during the crusade.
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This is probably the last time I will visit this thread as well. So keep that in mind before drafting up a response.
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Well if we want to go on the judgemental and incredibly generalising style of approach sure that fits quite well. But then again such ignorance and arrogant generalisation can apply to any style like Sci-fi or fantasy of any kind. Every person to their taste. Just show some sign of respect and knowledge. Not the bias only an ignorant buffoon would throw around about things he/she seemingly knows nothing about. It's bad manner and lowers the respect others would show them like how i just lost some respect for you, after this little childish rant of yours.Not to say i don't agree with what you have said i do love proper sci-fi my self. And anime can be infuriating in some aspects but then again so can most shows/games of any kind if you take the time to look into them. Though i tend to watch the darker and more sci-fi hardcore animes when i can find them. Just that i tend to avoid stepping down on the Comedy genre. Since it's not so much about realism as it is about making things "FUN"Having said that. I am interested in joining this RP


Well a few things here. I have acknowledge that this is not to my taste and that I do not care one way or another if other people enjoy anime. I am not condoning people who like different things than I myself do, I am simply stating as requested of me, my reasons for disliking anime style and ergo why I would not be joining this game. If you chose to take this as some sort of personal attack than I am sorry but that is hardly my fault.

I could give less of a dam if people watch and play anime style games. I simply have no desire to participate. As for this game in particular I was not aware it was a comedy, because how I have fun is by taking things seriously. It helps with immersion on my end. Now as a result I have a hard time taking anime seriously so I dislike it. I am not asking you to like this, Or even care for that matter. But people do have to live with it. Just like I happily live with other peoples positive opinions about anime. Many of which are friends that force me to watch episodes of animes they think I might enjoy in an effort to get me hooked. So far it is unsuccessful.

So yes I may generalize anime's a bit with this rant and criticize them, But there is no need to start throwing insults simply because you read something you didn't like. My explanation was requested, or at the very least clarified. That is all. It is a personal opinion on my reasons for dislike of this genre and treat it as such, not a whole scale attack against all people anime everywhere. Anything else taken from this little blurb is out of my hands, and becomes a personal issue on the other end. I apologize for any confusion truly but it is a personal opinion. Take it as such. All I did was critize the genre's (seemingly to me) faults. Not the people in this thread.
Do the rest of us go ahead with posting as if we are arriving at the summit?
Believe me I am the first to jump into the D&D band wagon. Swords and sorcery and fantasy can be incredibly fun. But even magic has to have it's limits and bounderies. Even it(and I know this may sound strange) has to make sense. There can't simply be shit happening "because magic" That only goes so far, and if done properly not necessary. if magic is explained in a cool way with reasonable weakness and strengths even if magic is this great and powerful force that only a few can command. There needs to be a sense of balance.

I love deamons, I love sorcery, I love angels and heavens and a vast plethora of gods and goddesses and anything inbetween. But if it is there simply 'because' than it adds nothing. It has to have reason and background, Even a god needs bounderies but that being said our characters shouldn't just be able to walk u and bitch-slap them whenever they feel like it.

It's also a lot of little things. Like omnipotent teenage characters. There are no words to express how much I loathe these. Now admittedly any style of story telling can have these teenagers who conquer everything because everyone else but them seems to be retarded and not born from the womb of some demigod. But anime style games and stories, you all have to admit can take this to brutal extremes.

Other things like Wielding weapons larger than they themselves are. Can a 100lbs girl who's 5'1" really carry around a 20mm hand cannon without completely severing her shoulder when firing it? Or a 15lb battleaxe with a 4' long handle and a blade nearly as broad as her arm is long? it's safe to say, probably not. For that matter can anyone?

Mouths as large a peoples faces when open, Fuck nearly everything that exists in anime can piss me off to some degree. I just don't like it. Now I may get some flame or hatred for that but oh well. I'm sorry and I hope sincerely you continue to enjoy yourself watching and playing anime games. But I will still sleep well at night with my decision.

I don't want dragon born characters in just any setting, and anthropomorphic dog people running around. I can't take it seriously. Well not usually. If a cool realistic explanation and justification can be given for a animalistic race then I am all ears. But If I see any cartoon shit then i'm sorry but that is almost always my queue to leave.
Seeming anime esque is not just with character pictures. If it's limited to that I can usually stomach it. But anime esque is the style, The way the rp acts and reacts. The boundries and even the amount of 'realism' that I can feel is present. if the Rp feels 'animated' Like it favours somewhat ridiculous proportions, unrealistic phsysics, and disfavouring common sense in favour of things looking or just acting 'cool' and various other characteristics like many, many animes do. Bascially if I feel like I am going to be playing out an anime show instead of a more seriously minded and proportioned rp. That is anime-esque
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