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I've had experience with a non GM led RP that was incredibly successful. On my old forum, a user started up an rp that only ever involved the first post, and after that they vanished. But the rest of the players, of which there was about 6-8, simply carried on and used the setting that was available to detail their characters coming together and interacting, and together we would add and contribute things and build off each others' works and in the end we built up a pretty nice and vibrant rp that was successful. The original rp creator actually appeared much later and was stunned by the success and dedication of us players, and was quite bewildered by it. It was a fun experience.

However, the reason why it worked is because the RPing community I was a part of was pretty small, and most of the players there were familiar/recognisable to each other, even if we hadn't rped with each other before. And everyone there was, like I mentioned before, communicative, dedicated and willing to listen to advice and constructive criticism from each other in order to become better rpers. We all grew immensely, and in that situation, well... we really didn't need a GM. But that's because we were like minded rpers all with a similar rping skill level on a small and dedicated fanbase forum.

On a forum with a community as large and diverse (even within all of its various subcategories, there's a massive spectrum of 'skill' within Free, Casual and Advanced) as RPG, I don't think this kind of thing would work. And also partly because of how flaky a lot of players can be who end up needing to depend on a GM to guide and lead them. I think a GM less RP could work on this forum, but it'd be incredibly rare and unlikely, and a GM ran RP has a much better chance of success. That said, the % of successful rps is incredibly low anyway, so...

Magic said Personally I find there are two main advantages to a lack of a GM.1. More overall creativity. You have multiple minds going 100% out in creating a plot/story, not one mind with the suggestions of others. Assuming they're mature enough to allow their creativity to co-exist and not override one another's creations it can make the world that much more expansive and meaningful for all the players.


Brovo said I'm sorry, but... What? How is a person's creativity lessened by having a GM? That doesn't make any sense. In fact, all having a GM here would do is help ensure that the world makes coherent sense as one person ultimately decides what does and does not fit, instead of a few or even several minds all simultaneously adding to the world and each potentially causing errors to one another's works ranging from chronological to physical to scientific and so on.

In my experience both as a GM and as a player the level of creativity a player has is not affected whatsoever by their GM. It's affected exclusively by themselves, because, uhh... It's their creativity. If they wanna add a village, they can do that. If they don't, they wouldn't without a GM anyway. In fact I would almost wager you that if a group of people came together without a GM and a person just wanted to make a character, but felt they had to add more in order to look like they were contributing, it would actually be less creative and less fun than simply having the GM there who has all this stuff set up already, and is willing to take suggestions from those who want to add more than a character.


You'd be surprised. In my experience, I felt I had a lot more creative freedom in the GM less RP we played, simply because... well, there wasn't anybody around to shoot ideas down. In an RP ran by a GM, a good GM, of course players are encouraged to be creative and add and contribute to the world, but like you mentioned, a GM's job is to make the world and story coherent, and sometimes that leads to a situation where a player's idea is shot down. Done maybe once or twice or a few times, and even if it's done politely, it can be a massive blow to that player's confidence and creativity to the point where they might wish to stop trying based on only a few small ideas being turned down that don't fit, and which in turn would leaves more work for the GM. Of course that's down to the player themself and how they respond to that, but in a GM less rp you tend to not come across the situation where ideas are turned down. Although you do run the risk of a drop in quality of world/plot coherency.

I still think a GM ran RP is better simply for the coherency of the world and story (depending on a player's standards and expectations for that), although we did a pretty damn good job in our GM absent one about keeping a well structured and coherent world, but again that was down to the group and our communication between one another, which can work just as well within a GM ran one. They both have their pros and cons, I guess, but it depends on the RP, the RPers involved, and even the site itself, I guess.


Aliquam: Tobias’ Gala: Second Floor

Upon Trixie’s opening of a beautifully ornate door into a smaller room, filled with people happily conversing in suits and dresses reclining around the plush sofas and upholstery beside a roaring fire, glasses in hand and plates of food scattered about the tables in front of them, Dalia suggested for the Pride to enter and converse with those inside. Estelle felt a little bashful at first, before she realised the majority of the clientele inside were students, so approximately her, Xandra and Trixie’s ages. They might have had a rich upbringing and all be talented when it came to the arts, but it couldn’t be that hard to grow comfortable around them, could it?

“Well?” She turned and asked her friends. Xandra nodded formally, whilst Trixie returned a shrug that emphasised she couldn’t find a reason to say nothing. Yet despite the trio’s agreement to do so, they all wavered in actually doing so, waiting for one of the others to take the lead. Naturally their eyes fell on to Estelle, being the actual leader of the Pride, but she couldn’t get her legs to make that first step. She still harboured doubt and discomfort… until Dalia walked straight past them, talking to the students relaxing around that central table in front of the fire, dining on elegant plates a serving of fine food without compare. Her speech certainly announced all of their presence to the students. Blushing, Estelle followed, and her mouth gawped as she looked at the utterly beautiful young woman stand up from the central chair at the table, to gracefully curtsy before them. When Estelle saw her in the room earlier, she was leading the group’s current talk, and had all of the others’ attention residing on her. And Estelle could clearly understand why.

She was beautiful.



“Why, hello Miss Dalia,” The girl with the silk blonde hair and a white gown outfitted with diamonds that sparkled with the light from the fire smiled as she approached their guests. “How are you enjoying the party, Miss Dalia, and if I may ask, who are your guests?” Rose asked with a pleasant smile, before it grew wider upon noticing the small brunette girl in the purple dress. Even with her matching mask covering her face, Rose couldn’t mistake the girl’s smile, her hair, or that toothy grin.

“Oh, well if it isn’t the darling little angel from earlier!” Rose clapped her hands together excitedly. “Don’t you just look beautiful! I’m not sure I managed to catch your name earlier. I’m Rose de Cervantés, and it’s an honour to make your acquaintance.” Rose laughed into her hand. “Welcome to Tobias Smith’s gallant party. He throws a pretty fine event, although naturally the Cervantés Ball at the end of the month will be a lot more glamorous. How are you all?”

Estelle, Trixie, Xandra and Dalia had all gotten so swept up in meeting Rose that they didn’t notice Marcus had excused himself to continue exploring Tobias’ manor.
Holas everyone! ^o^

Enjoy your concert on Sunday Rex and let me know how it all goes. :) I might even be awake to chat a little after it's over and before you drive, hehe. c| Score as much free stuff as you can! And try not to cry in front of them again 8D

Buns said Kathi's moving to America?! But... Canada is better isn't it? D:


Isn't everywhere better? *rimshot*

Kathi said Yep, I like Vancouver lots but unfortunately my preferred college is not here OTL


You prefer colleges with lesbian femnazis? *rimshotx2*

Enjoy your ball and party, Kathi! ^o^ Have a wonderful, wonderful time, and what appropriate timing too with current IC going ons. I expect accurate reflection of details within your upcoming writing >:D

Good luck with work, Danni!

I hope you all have an enjoyable Wednesday!! *blows kisses to all*

CONGRATULATIONS KATHI!!!!! <3333333333333333

Well done for kicking butt!!

Now get some damn sleep you salty kraken you
GM interference depends on the player argument. Generally though, a good GM will want to step in and help resolve any disputes simply because arguments are not fun for the rp and group as a whole. I mean, Brovo summed it up pretty succinctly.

Brovo said That being said, when two players argue, you can either let em' go at it to the inevitable conclusion that one or both leave, or you can step in and tell them both that continued argument warrants being dropped due to ruining it for everyone else, over what is likely a petty dispute that can be resolved amicable. If they refuse to listen and continue to argue, drop them. If they continue to post in your thread, request a moderator to remove them and give them a slap on the wrist.


I find player arguments sometimes fascinating to behold if only to see how people react to problems and situations like that, to guage their personality, and be aware of how probable they might present future problems whether it be through causing them or responding to something with an unreasonable, negative attitude etc. At the point where we are in my rp I only accept players I personally invite, and one of the criteria I search for in a player beyond simply rping skill, writing quality and posting consistency, and almost more importantly actually, is whether or not they're a decent, communicative person who can react to disagreements and constructive critcism well.
lols



Aliquam: Tobias’ Gala



With frequent and unending gasps, Estelle’s gaze fell all over the majesty of the mansion and the gala Tobias was throwing. The building itself screamed expense and refined sophistication, with a beautiful crystal chandelier hanging overhead and many exotic, potted plants dotted across the outer rims of the large party hall they were in. The centre of the room had been reserved for couples to dance upon, and they did so with a style and grace Estelle had only ever seen come from Selan before. Like themselves, everybody else within the hall were dressed to impress, with stunning gowns and dressing or crisp, magnificent suits, and more then a few with their own masquerade masks, except everyone else wore their outfits with a trifle more comfort and ease then she and her friends wore theirs. Elegant music wafted throughout the hall from a band graciously playing at the far end: the use of piano, violins, flutes and harps was without compare. This truly was a place Estelle felt unprepared and overwhelmed by, a place she was not suited for.

Compared to all of the battles and adventures she had experienced since becoming a Guilder… from the horrors of Gaoh within the snowcapped ruins of Tabul to the demonic vampire lord Lucifer and his diabolical family within Vandrell… this made her feel far more scared.

“What are we… what are we supposed to actually do?” Estelle asked, blinking and looking around in confusion and unease. After Dylan’s comments about relaxing and enjoying the party, as well as to be wary around Tobias for reasons undisclosed, Estelle watched as the rest of her friends quickly made their own plans- from Moira and Amy snatching away Aria to travel to the bar for drinking (no thanks), to Lucien trying to accost Lute and Syed on a quest to hunt girls (…). Neither of these options seemed appealing to Estelle, and looking over the dance floor, neither did that. If she were to try, she was sure she’d make a mockery of herself and be laughed at. Swinging a sword, fighting Varrens and Electures and Firons were all well and good, but dancing was a whole different thing.

“How about we just explore the mansion, Estelle?” Marcus asked with a smile, as if reading his partner’s mind. “See what the rest of Tobias’ home looks like, and see what else might be happening in some of the other rooms. Would that be alright, Dylan? Dalia? And Trixie, if you’d like, you could come with us?” The mage smiled as he looked down to the prankster. With the way in which everyone else was already splitting up, he thought it a good idea for at least one of them to keep an eye on Trixie, especially if Amy was to go drinking.
Kei said “But we’ve already got babes here!” Lute gestured to Aria and Xandra.


No Estelle, Amy or Moira? I'm offended.

EDIT: Off to write a possssssst

EDIT2: Annnd posted.

Kathi, congratulations on your graduation! ^o^ I'm super proud of you and stoked. c| You finally on summer break now and able to chill and relax before moving to America? That should be fun. Have a great summer and get some sleep! *swats*

Fox your video was... unnervingly creepy. Where the hell do you find this stuff?

I'll be gradually introducing Rose and Simon (and Biggs and Wedge) throughout this event depending on how scenes go and see what seems most fun and natural to go with. I semi vote Lucien and Lute's 'girl hunting' to end terribly when they unknowingly hit on Rose, and then get hit back on. Very, very hard.

...also Amy, Moira and Aria alone sounds like way too good an opportunity to pass up for a certain someone.
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