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I was working on something before, and it drew some inspiration from Orlais in Dragon Age: Inquisition, but after looking through the sheets it's become abundantly clear I wasn't the only one thinking of drawing some inspiration from that. So I've decided to go for something more original, which means a partial do-over.
I did warn you it'd be slow.
- Eh, disregard what used to be here. -
Finding any proof of succession amid radioactive ruins and scorched earth would be pretty much impossible, even with a decade to do it. Most things were destroyed during the Great War. Records like the ones you'd need need would be pretty much gone. It's more likely these people crowned a king with very limited "proof" of his lineage, and that it was an act of necessity more than anything. With the unlikelihood of finding any of the information they'd need (since said proof would be destroyed along with most of everything not in a vault), using up their limited supply of fuel to search for it would be a massive waste, to say the least. If you want this to happen mostly out of necessity for order and someone to guide them in the early days, as you said, then it's more likely they'd just pick the very first person that looked fit and had as much as a rumor backing their claim. They wouldn't spend resources on something they may not find if their intention really is to get someone up and in charge for the sake of guidance.
So Boerd said
In the course of my research on British political heritage, I've just learned from reputable and well-reasoned sources that today there are thousands of frankly ordinary blokes (to say nothing of the hundreds of unimportant nobles higher up) in the line of succession. Therefore, it is not only posssible, but probable that the Dominion found in its early years a legitimate king to exercise monarchial powers, to say nothing of any charlatans showing up with vellum proving descent from Sophia of Hannover.


I wouldn't say 'probable', but I guess it's possible. You do need to consider the Great War wiping out not only a lot of people, but a lot of information too. Most people don't even know what the old United States was like, let alone what some foreign nation may have been like. Hell, most people outside of NCR may not even really understand the concept of nations, or governments beyond simple chieftains and the like. So the average wastelander wouldn't even know a place called the 'United Kingdom' existed, and that it had a monarchy. They wouldn't know of any distant claims, or have any proof to back it. On top of all the widespread destruction and loss of records, you need to add in the fact that a lot of time has passed since the bombs. Enough time for distant claims to have been forgotten, or lost when those making them perished. This is if they survive the bombs at all.

Not to mention the average person isn't dwelling on some super-distant claim they may or may not have, especially considering that no one (besides House, I guess) truly foresaw the bombs. The 'ordinary blokes', as you said, probably weren't expecting to ever become anything more than ordinary people. They weren't sitting around dwelling on these extremely distant claims they may or may not have had, because even if they did had the claim, it would be so distant their chances of ascending to royalty were zero. This stuff probably wasn't in their minds. It'd be a story that, at best, gets told at family reunions and no one takes seriously. Pretty much grandma saying "Did you know our family is in line for the throne?" and everyone giggling because she's grandma and her mind is frail. This makes the likelihood that these 'ordinary blokes' survived the war to make good on their claim very small, since most of them probably wouldn't even know about it, or may have not even taken it serious. Especially if these ordinary people lived in pre-war America, where these claims would have meant even less to their families.

If you were to say that a noble was serving with the Royal Navy and ended up surviving the war, though, then yeah, sure. Everyone on the ship would have known him. His claim would be indisputable and certainly in the noble's mind. It's possible the ship crews supported him and he became king of some radioactive ashes shortly after the ships made landfall. But some ordinary, American wastelander being found, or showing up, to claim some distant claim that his pre-war American family somehow knew about, and for whatever reason saved records of - records which then somehow survived the Great War and were passed down to surviving members of the family - is.. well, not very likely.

So either a noble was aboard one of the ships and was proclaimed king early on because everyone knew of his descent, or some ghoul who used to be royalty/nobility ended up saving up proof of his claim and somehow ended up cashing it in with the sailors stranded in the Americas. If the latter, then he'd either still be king, or died without a biological heir since ghouls can't breed. He may have named someone else king, though, I guess.
So Boerd said
Fleet of HMS Warriors?


I just looked it up, and yeah, that looks more agreeable.
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So Boerd said
For the practical aspects, I think if Liberty Prime, which never worked in the first place, could be activated by the BoS (with no industrial base), the Dominion could maintain a battleship, particularly by limiting the use. Perhaps they exert control over NS Mayport in Jacksonville to use ita facilities?For the gameplay aspects, you're probably right. What would serve as a better replacement? I could do HMS Warrior. I want the sea/river equivalent of Vertibirds; high tech hard hitting fast moving vehicles, but can't really hold territory.


Liberty Prime took a long time to become active. In fact, the Brotherhood of Steel - one of the most advanced factions in the Fallout world - was unable to get it operational and had to enlist the help of Doctor Madison Li, a dedicated scientist with ties to the Institute. They were also fortunate enough to find Liberty Prime in a near-finished condition, and were able to salvage advanced technology from the Citadel/Pentagon. They had no real industrial base, but they never really needed it to complete Liberty Prime, since all it needed was power. The Brotherhood acquired said power when they seized the water plant and got the scientists to work.

If you can propose something more agreeable, I'd be cool with it and (probably) so would Aaron. But the idea of functional metal ships going around bombing coasts and pretty much having total naval dominance is a bit concerning. This is just a suggestion, but maybe the ships could be a sort of hybrid? Like, maybe they're made of wood and use sails and other simple components, but have limited advanced technology installed as well. Maybe the original ships were pretty much inoperable, or close to being inoperable, so they were dismantled and some of their parts were used to reinforce a simple kind of sail-ship? You would still have a total naval advantage on pretty much everyone, since the most people have is ships like the one Aaron showed you. And most wastelanders stay off the water anyway.
Heh, "Gormenghast".
I like the sheet though. I just feel it'd be nice if it all tied up together better.

One thing you could do - and this is just a suggestion - is have them been formed from a slave rebellion, like a Spartacus-type deal. So this is an army of former slaves that successful freed themselves amidst the chaos of the Legion civil war, and continue to operate and free slaves. They don't ask for payment, but their good deeds earn them supplies and shelter from supportive wastelanders. If you want to keep an NCR general as their leader, you could say the general was a prisoner of war and lead the rebellion.
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