Shienvien

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I have the original CS? I can fetch it and PM it to you, as I believe I offered when you first reappeared. (Have planes to catch right now.)

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@Jack: ...I will rather not comment on said choice of words there. Given you (probably) know my stance on those matters, you can probably guess what my opinion on accusations like that being liberally thrown around is. I will say, though, that I got to witness Legion first reaction to Hymu's first post, and he was rather taken aback, to say the least. And that may be an understatement. ASTA had just considered flipping a few tables (according to chat backlog), but luckily opted not to.

And again, I would be dishonest if I didn't say I do not enjoy writing Aemoten as he currently was/is, either. He's mostly been feeling hopeless, useless, futile, anguished, and then droning over the said hopelessness, uselessness, futility and mental pain. A part of me literally wanted to groan back in the day when Thaler first woke up and the relic was revealed. But I have been putting up with it in the name of things eventually getting on a more enjoyable track, the same as I tolerated the Unmentionable One's and his constant bickering before that... After doing so for the entirety of the Rilon-bloody-mess and along the way getting an entity involved who has no business being in the foreground atop of my own character's miserable state, Thaler hypothetically simply being crossed out of the equation just feels a bit like a slap in the face. But yeah... Of course I can't actually stop Thaler, or Hymusia, for the matter, if they truly intend to opt for that path. But as said, things can change still. Rilon regrettably already happened, and that can be changed no more.

Oeh... And the guardsman both knows what the blindfold means and is enough of a bastard to go hand the people who essentially saved his life in? I would hope not. There must be some people left in Reniam who aren't secretly heartless demons, no?

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Well... I recall a Thaler who considered him "only" a good friend - one of her only friends - and then very decidedly tried to convince herself that she is just imagining things and nothing like that could really be true whenever he did or said something that was painfully obviously not *just* friendly. XD

But... Yeah. Let's see where things go now?

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...It goes a long way from "nothing good will ever come for the wielder of this thing, and it is impossible to hide it" to somehow implying Thaler herself is evil. He did - briefly, as in for about a paragraph - talk of the hidden consequences of taking without permission the previous night, but this was never meant to be more than just a passing thing, what with her becoming an apprentice of the Will and all, and there being so many ways for her to use her skills to help people instead - which he also spoke of -, and her and Jaelnec speaking further of his and her path to knights and perhaps eventually reinstating the Order of the Will. (A matter which somewhat interjected Aemoten, since he had actually intended to tell her about his feelings then. He did, though, in full conviction, manage to tell her that he would never, under no circumstances, give her up to the authorities or abandon her to some cruel fate, though.) Olan even managed to make them *all* laugh - even Aemoten, who had been rather grim for a while. And both Jaelnec and Aemoten had figured there might be something they could teach Thaler.
Honestly, if he was being cruel *then*, then no even slightly sterner talking should ever take place. He was mostly just asking her whether she could try not to do it again unless absolutely necessary, not much more than that. It was not a focus of the evening. She was described to be content before and actually *happy* later on, after said paragraph of talk. And they had a night ahead of them that would be spent sleeping in a proper bed rather than the softest available spot on the rain-soaked ground. And they figured they would be reaching Zerul without a hitch now.
Aemoten had no way in the Planes to be able to expect finding something like what he did the next morning. He is no oracle. If it weren't for all the demon lords deciding that nope, they cannot rest a night in peace and be happy for once, they'd be in an entirely different place now. Things *had* been getting better for them.

And I have quite clear recollections of her having obvious feelings for him, too, at least until all that Rilon fiasco and bloody mess... That *has* been a rather depressing section of the RP. As for him? Yeah, no doubt about what he feels.

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@Rhaevnn Xeno: It is more of an accumulation of things. It wasn't easy before, and the whole "Rilon-thing" finally completely tore him to pieces as far as the mind is concerned, just when things had finally started to improve (I wasn't joking when I said the Aemoten-posts through all that Rilon-thing felt physically nasty to write ... it is some specific kind of psychological suffering that simply doesn't sit well with the part of my brain that observes the scene I am envisioning and decides that I am actually seeing a suffering person). The woman whom he deeply and honestly loves being destroyed or simply stating that she hates him and this is it would indeed be too much at this point... The part of him that is the human man doesn't really function on an entirely rational level anymore. (And no, he didn't actually mistreat her in any way or form. I don't know where *that* interpretation is from... ) Of course, my IC influence is limited to what my characters know and do, so if Thaler was really determined then there'd be no way for me to indefinitely keep her from offing herself or similar. I have swapped characters before, and also simply killed plenty of them off myself, both in roleplay and writing. I'll survive outing Aemoten from the Prophecy, too.
- He is on the quest to end the Withering because it already took all that he had ... losing the one thing he dared hold the most dear again so soon after? What would one do in a situation like that? Continue on a quest that in a sense was a form of escapism to begin with and that he didn't ever expect to actually succeed in? What for? And if he couldn't even help the person he loved, then a bunch of followers? Really?

Uh... And our group is kind of destined to join up with Morgan and Ixion and I'on. It just has been delayed a bit, so Jack gave you guys something to do meanwhile... But who knows? Maybe Aemoten's group can be dragged into the mystery revolving around Blue and whoever killed her, and perhaps we'd even need a sneaky thief when we are at it.

(But let's move on from this topic and see what the RP brings, no? We're seriously scaring the newcomers here. :-P )

Realms: The Wars of Providence [Closed/Invite Only]

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...My character would do all within his power to find her and postpone everything else indefinitely, though, should she simply disappear. And if he gets her word that she hates him and doesn't want anything to do with him again? Well, that is my characters out or the RP, more or less. Closed circle, pretty much. *shrugs*

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cthulu said Aemoten seemingly effortlessly slaughters the other 10 or so

Aemoten has never taken upon more than a handful of opponents during an entire battle, excluding the time they were fighting goblins... And not once (excluding the goblins) has he successfully taken upon more than one at a time. It wouldn't be realistic, and I do not write in this manner. If you so desire, I may add up some numbers and give you his exact count for each encounter.
(For the record - he has also been healing Jaelnec, at the cost of his own long-term health, and has often been worse off after conflicts even after healing.)
He also knows Thaler is unwell and possibly suicidal, but he has no idea she would try to hand herself in. And *never* before the Rilon scene did someone as much as tell your character what to do, besides asking whether she would be fine with keeping watch or something.
I am aware there has been a lot of fighting, and all characters have suffered from it. Aemoten - atop of being simply incapable of the feats you mentioned - is also primarily a thinker, not brute force battler. I am metagaming a bit, but I predict Thaler would have her time. It is not *good* to have all fighters. I'onriyi is a mage, and Legion's character does not hold up in meleé combat all too well, either (to note non-meleé characters). Do we have anyone who can lockpick? No, we don't. Merc's character, maybe, but he isn't half as active as you are...

The last affair with the gods wrecked all characters, not just Thaler. She was happy on the evening before, was she not? Give her some time. I would be lying if I said a witty and enthusiastic Thaler isn't preferable to a quiet and depressed one.

EDIT: If we leave out the goblins (which most killed plenty of, and which I can't bother to sum up at the moment), Aemoten hasn't even made ten kills in total since I entered him to the RP... Seriously. I just counted. It was a bit surprising to me, too... I thought he would have somewhere between dozen and two dozen by now.

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Uh. It'd be far from ideal solution, and I don't know whether we could ever truly play Thaler as, well, Thaler. It wouldn't simply be the same anymore. But if you are truly absolutely certain of it, then I guess we could NPC her... Since yeah, she is a *very* integral part of the group.

(Is everything okay, otherwise? Since your posts today have been rather shocking, to say the least...)

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I don't think the combined forces of Olan and Jaelnec would be enough to convince Aemoten to continue if Thaler would be gone... The "Rilon stuff" was probably the last blow - all that time where he was feeling either utterly useless and miserable, and then lamenting and angry at said uselessness and still incapable of doing pretty much anything (many of those posts felt physically nasty to write). All he has for holding himself together at this point is the belief that he can somehow fix the situation with Thaler, and if that gets crushed... Then it's all. Done. He will collapse where he stands and get up no more. Literally. I would most likely have to out him and Etakar, too, at that point...

And if Thaler is gone, then Jaelnec might *never* get to be a Knight of the Will...