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Both cases involve knowingly causing pain. Whether pain is the intention does not matter. Both cases, the person knows what kind of pain they will cause and they still do it. The suicidal person just inflicts infinetely more pain.
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Magic Magnum said
There's a huge difference between hate speech and right over ones own body.It's a rather obvious difference... :/


Tell me which is a worse pain. Random stranger calls you naughty words, or you find your mother hanging in the living room. Go ahead, TELL me the stranger is worse.

Both cases involve exercising bodily autonomy in a way to make themselves feel better and others worse. Only one is soul-crushing, and it ain't the old coot yelling at you from his pick up window.
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Kestrel said
Buying a hamburger instead of donating the extra money to those who need it more than you is selfish also. A lot of things people do is selfish. I'd go as far as claiming selfishness is a pillar of both survival and happiness. Maybe not the one burger, though.So I'm not really sure what you're trying to convey.


Good, now that you dropped the idea suicide is not selfish I can go on to break this Loki fallacy of incomparable pain.

Suppose a bigot is depressed at how the world is going. Can he do "whatever he wants with his own body" and use his mouth to yell racial slurs against black people and will you "respect that"?
Consenting adults. Obviously I would rather not pay more but I am not going to use the force of government to get my way. Nowhere in the constitution is the federal goverment given this authority.
*Is in favor, and makes it manifest*
Selflessness is considering your own interests as less than others, not ignoring your own.
All for it. I am all about letting two consenting adults do whatever they want.
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