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I do not think they are equivalent, I think suicide is much worse. And I was not talking about hate crimes, I was talking about the racial slur guy to prove how silly an ideology which sets suicide as better is. You have been forced to add violence to my racism comparison to maintain consistency.

Ultimately, I find all suicide wrong on a religious level. What I can prove secularly is that parents should not commit suicide because they are already commited to obligations. When you had the child, you committed to raise it.
ActRaiserTheReturned said
I've got to say Brovo, that I disagree whole heartedly with you opinion that suicide should be allowed.Speaking as a formerly suicidal person, it's not a good thing to be in that position, for sure. However, what's even worse is if you commit the deed that's on your mind. Now I don't believe suicide will end you up in Hell like Christianity teaches, I believe it's a sin you can't atone for though. I can say that After being given to five strangers for gang bang "fun" at the age of seven, being seduced and used in broad daylight by a teenage boy at around the same age, then being forced to watch as the teenager who seduced my much younger mind is literally chopped to death in front of me with an axe, that I would not, even as I live now in my current state of uncertainty, look into the future and see that I wasn't there.I"ve had moments of depression. If you linger on the board long enough, I have some bizarre posts of mine where I'm not feeling too good, and I say weird, Emo Gothic bullshit things. I've had moments in my life where I just wished I wasn't alive anymore. Suicide isn't necessarily selfishness even though selfishness is probably involved, (Although a lot of the component of suicide has GOT to be some kind of psychological or brain related problem).I can safely say at this point that it's best if people let their Maker decide their fate. We have a purpose for being in the world, and it's just not worth it to fight our own purpose, for the sake of the alleviation of suffering. I have no condemning attitude towards people who have been through or are going through this however. The joy that cometh in the morning just isn't perceivable by us mere mortals.


Good God...I am so sorry.
They deliberately attacked during a very cold Autumn to prevent a retaliatory strike, however military miscalculations do happen. If the Crayvens are up for it, by all means go for it. The scouts will be captured and given a message to send to the villages; Capitulate and be treated well, resist and be razed.
That does not explain the inconsistency in your philosopy. Here, use my take on the examples as an example of ideological consistency.

Suicidal mother: Is bad because the mother is causing enormous life shattering pain.
Bigot: Is bad as the bigot inflicts pain to make himself feel better.
Relationship: Unlike the family, all parties are entered by choice and as such may leave by choice. You cannot simply decide one day you are not my biological parent. The incredibly strong bond between parent and child is so much stronger. I can get another girlfriend, but I only get one mother.
No sweat, brah.
On second thought, many cable companies are granted monopolies. So yeah, this is bad news.
But so what? Accepting the premise that being an "attack" somehow alters the situation, what does it matter? The hypothetical mother is still knowingly inflicting more pain. I do not give a damn what your intentions are, I care about the consequences. There is simply no comparison in the level of damage suicidal mother causes vs dumb bigot.
Let me cut through the BS to get to the salient BS, the very specious statement you base this ridiculous text wall on.

"Someone dehumanizing you via racism is an act against your person done for the purpose of devaluing you as a human being. It is aggressive, an attack."

No, an attack on my person is getting punched. I don't care what stupid people say. Call me chink, I don't care. None of my human rights are violated.

With your nonsense "attack" argument out of the way (And what about all the people who write notes? Isn't that an attack?) The rest of the text wall is simply contradictory. Saying the Nbomb is something the bigot does with his own body and as you claim, feelings do not matter when it comes to how an individual uses his own body. Try being ideologically consistent.
How does an old coot yelling naughty words at you violate your sanctity as a human being, but losing your mother does not?

Do you have some right to not be insulted but no right to a mother? Let's get our priorities straight. Pick any 100 people off the street and ask them which they prefer.

Aren't you being selfish for telling the bigot he cannot walk around yelling his foulness? It is his mouth, why can't he say anything he wants that causes no physical harm?
So I ask you the same question. Do you hold racist bigots in the same regard?
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