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Minimum Wage

Good spin, Brovo, however the number I cited was unemployment, not labor participation. That means, of X black teenagers looking for work, 35 percent cannot find jobs compared with 20 percent of white teenagers.

If you want to play booming economy, Black teenage unemployment in 1930, not a booming economy, was lower than white teenage unemployment. So the racists established a minimum wage to keep black workers out.

Minimum Wage

Turtlicious said
Because then you effect other people?If there are 200 workers, and 100 of them are willing to work for 80 hours a week at 3$ an hour, and 100 who are willing to work 40 hours a week at 6$ an hour, then the company will fire 100 people.Also there is a whole thing with exploitation I really don't want to get into because I have a whole gimmick with my posting where I try not to post more then 5 sentences at any given time.e: Whoa wait what? Don't kill yourself. Need help? In the U.S., call 1-800-273-8255. If you're seriously considering killing yourself over minimum wage, please call someone who can help.

So what if someone can not compete with another worker at the same price? What if I grew up in the inner city and got a crappy education, and now I need work experience if I am to go anywhere? Offered a high school student and a college graduate both at the same price who is the company going to hire?

Today black teenage unemployment is 35% and white teenage unemployment is 20%. In 1948 Black teenage unemployment, even when blacks were openly discrimated against, was at 9.8% Congratulations, you have made a very racist law that favors white people. You are keeping young black people down, and for what? So that white people can live comfortably? Boy, doesn't that have a familiar ring.

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Turtlicious said
Pretty much this, it's because people are exploitative assholes, and it would ruin it for the people who want to work a 70 hour week to try and make rent.

Wait wait wait, so you think there will be enough who will offer to work for less that the whole labor force is screwed? It is my body. If I can kill myself, why can't I work for too little?

Minimum Wage

Not wanting to derail the suicide thread, let's talk minimum wage here. Why shouldn't someone be allowed to offer their own services at three dollars an hour willingly?

Suicide, Tragic or Selfish?

FYI, "You appear to be saying X" is Turt speech for "You are not saying X, but I want you to so I can argue against a strawman"

Suicide, Tragic or Selfish?

When an argument is based on immaterial and unfalsifiable premises, I can happily call it settled when all parties are free of contradiction and have thoroughly made their case, however Jorick and Turt, while my mother chose to have me, I did not choose to have the most potent emotional bond with her. The boyfriend entered knowing the risks, I was given no choice.

Now if we ever say, debate minimum wage, I have ample quotes from many prominent liberals on the guild making a strenuous case for its repeal.

Fire Emblem Battle Royale

Ah, absolutely right. I will return to my throwaway reclass strategy.

Fire Emblem Battle Royale

So what prevents someone buying a really cheap class with a high cost reclass option and then immediately reclassing to the higher cost class?

Net Neutrality is Dead..

In other words, government created a problem it now has to solve.

Suicide, Tragic or Selfish?

My racial slur comparison is so ludicrous to prove a point. I think Suicide is worse. MagicMagnum was the original target and iirc, he said suicide was alright but racial slurs were not, and I think we can all agree that is silly.

I do not think anyone should be held from suicide if they are of sound mind, (catch 22, if you are suicidal by definition you are not of sound mind) however, I maintain that it is immoral.

Now, your latin is terrible, by the way. It's argumentum ad populem, not argument ad popularim, and ad hominem (Ad, meaning to, and Hominem, meaning man) means using a personal insult to discredit an argument, as opposed to simply calling the argument dumb as mere commentary.