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Krein said
Back after a long day, what habe I missed in the OOC and IC? I see you guys have all been having an argument regarding superheroes....For the record, I think Superman is very OP. Unless you can block out the sun, find the rare kryptonite rock, or find a red sun, he's pretty much unstoppable. Sure he can get his ass kicked every now and then, but that's usually because he's holding back.Green Lantern series is my favorite, though the Red Lantern Corps are my favorite Lanterns.


don't forget magic, that means that if Voldemort hits Superman with the killing curse then he would die.
Apokalipse said
I'm just gonna wrap this little debate up with one last question. Can you relate to any of that?


in terms of feeling alienated, yes, most young people can relate to that more than PTSD. i hope that this didn't seem like a heated argument because i didn't think it was, it was a constructive argument
Apokalipse said
Humans relate to humans. Why? Because humans generally go through the same difficulties. A dog will sympathize with another dog more than it will with a cat. Darwinism at it's finest. And so what if Stark is a multi-billionaire? That's not what makes him relatable. He suffered from PTSD after being locked up and after New York, something that many soldiers suffer with. He had anxiety attacks after that as well, something relate to, personally. He drinks booze to cover up his pain, something that many people I personally know have done. I'm going to be honest that my argument is based off of the movies and what I've read about the superheroes, I don't read comics. The colors clashing with the words hurts my eyes a little bit. But...has Superman ever suffered because of what he has experienced? How did he cope with the bad things that happened to him? That's why I don't like him. I find him one-dimensional.I also hate Frozen and find that movie incredibly stupid.


since i don't want to clog up the OOC i will just say this, Superman has problems to, if we're going by movies then in Man of Steel, Clark spent most of his childhood and a good amount of his early adult years feeling alienated and alone because he was different and he didn't know where he came from since it wasn't until he was in his thirties that he found out he was a Kryptonian. just watch this clip from the movie and you'll see that he had problems as a little boy.
Apokalipse said
EXACTLY. SUPERMAN IS NOT HUMAN. Superman is idealistically perfect and powerful. He could probably whoop everybody's ass. He is the most unrelatable superhero to ever exist and is uber overpowered. Batman's parents were killed and that's why he hunts evil-doers. But what if his parents weren't killed...? Would he still be fighting evil? Iron man had created weapons and realized what his weapons had done to people, had done to himself, and he sought to find a way to fix it. He is human nature, itself. That's why he is my favorite. There are no pretenses - he selfish, he make mistakes, and he be impulsive. But, in the end, it doesn't matter. Because he still fights with the Avengers, he still creates his suits, he still fights crimes...and he still drinks and make witty remarks that make everyone adore him. I like him the most because humans are selfish, humans make mistakes, and humans can be impulsive. My argument is not about who did it first, my argument is about who did it . At least Iron Man didn't have to worry about being arrested. Superman may represent the of humanity....but he doesn't represent humanity itself. And I personally don't care about Green Lantern...never really got into that superhero. Like, I don't even know what he does. I admit that Rogers has more morals than Stark. Matter of fact, he's definitely a better person than Stark. However, Captain America didn't LEAD Stark anywhere. Stark and Cap are CO-leaders of the Avengers...And also everything above that I said about Stark representing humanity, not the ideals.

Since when does something have to be human to be relatable? He is an alien but he grew up human and lived an honest life. Stark is a multi billionaire, how is that relatable? also superman may be strong but it there is more to him than just his powers. If you watch Superman vs the Elite or read the comic it is based off of you will see why superman is a great character and he goes up againstone of the greatest challenges which is the idea of people moving and thinking his way of fighting crime without killing is not effective
Rune_Alchemist said
...My opinion on superheroesSuperman: OP And boring as fuck.Batman: Meh. Too overdone.Green lantern: No idea. Never seen movie or comic.Captain America: Eh, he's alright. Ironman: Totally awesome in every aspect.Thor: Best superhero in the history of forever. I love norse Mythology xP


Since I have actually read the comics, superman is not OP and has several weaknesses, and he is not boring. He's one of the greatest superheroes of all time. There would be no superheroes without superman. Green Lantern is one of the best cosmic heroes.
Apokalipse said
*LE GASP* YOU DID NOT JUST SAY THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE REPRESENTS MANY THINGS!!! HIS MERE EXISTENCE SUPPORTS pTHAT BRAWN IS NOT ALWAYS BETTER THAN BRAIN. He represents a man who overcame his hardships which are not unlike many others (even though he became a pretentious dick to cover up the hurt he felt by being neglected). He stands for soldiers who suffer from PTSD and boys who never understood what having a father meant! He shows children that they cannot be perfect, they will always have flaws no matter what, but you must do the right thing anyways! HE IS IRONMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Batman's done all that long before ironman did that. Superman represents the greatest ideals of humanity and shows us what we can be. Despite him being an alien, superman is more human than most of us, despite his powers, he still treats us as his equals. Also Batman beats ironman, he beat superman on several occasions and also defeated the justice league. In my opinion Green Lantern is way more relatable
Apokalipse said
I don't like Batman or Superman, lol. A couple of months ago, though, my whole fifth period class (including the teacher) had a debate on who would win in a fight, Batman or Ironman. Let's just say I'm thinking of joining the debate team next year.


oh well, I consider ironman overrated and nothing really special. In my opinion he just is meant to be as popular as possible, nothing more. superman and Batman have more meaning behind them. GreenLantern and Aquaman are some of my favorite heroes, it would be awesome to have a power ring
Rune_Alchemist said
Being Tony Stark is every nerds dream xPpfffft xDI


i would rather be Superman, Green Lantern or Flash, much more fun and better powers.
Jones Sparrow said
I thought it was fantastic!!!!!!Then again, I am a bit obsessed with Cap haha, but I thought it had some good plot twist and stuff haha(Not spoiling anything haha)


I haven't seen it yet and might see it when it comes out on dvd but i still think Man of Steel is the best comic book movie to come out since the Dark Knight
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