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solamelike said
A treaty!Being Broken !In WiR 1861 !NEVER !


Just saying that the UR had nothing to worry about from China because the UR would be in the right if China invaded India. China even said they would reduce it after the war was over.

Edit: Seems like sucking up to Germany more than anything.
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Just saying that the UR had nothing to worry about from China because the UR would be in the right if China invaded India. China even said they would reduce it after the war was over. Edit: Seems like sucking up to Germany more than anything.


Nah man. War orders. You wouldn't know, but those three additional orders are heavenly.
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Nah man. War orders. You wouldn't know, but those three additional orders are heavenly.


So you're just using this "war" to take advantage of three more orders. That's not meta-gaming at all..
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I was the first to criticize the UR's decision to go to war, and I still think it's wrong, but I see the opportunity in it. It's messed up, but the UR will probably profit a lot from it.
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So you're just using this "war" to take advantage of three more orders. That's not meta-gaming at all..


Well, maybe if you didn't have peace with everyone you could too Mr. sour pants. You could always DOW me though if you wanted too. I kid I kid. I will profit more than just war orders. Hopefully.
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So you're just using this "war" to take advantage of three more orders. That's not meta-gaming at all..


This.

I think it's probably more than three extra though if you count war updates inbetween the main updates. To me, it's unfair that one nation is able to expand their navy faster than another just because the first nation is at war. In my opinion war orders should be used for troop/fleet movements only.
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I was the first to criticize the UR's decision to go to war, and I still think it's wrong, but I see the opportunity in it. It's messed up, but the UR will probably profit a lot from it.


I was the first to criticize the fall of the United Kingdoms and I agree with Deo.

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This.I think it's probably more than three extra though if you count war updates inbetween the main updates. To me, it's unfair that one nation is able to expand their navy faster than another just because the first nation is at war. In my opinion war orders should be used for troop/fleet movements only.


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@dannaroo, I agree with you honestly. One of my main factors was that Germany/Netherlands/Russia had those orders. I'd definitely Lag behind in power cause of that.
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@pasta I can't blame you for doing it. I would do it too if I were you.
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Dannaroo said
This.I think it's probably more than three extra though if you count war updates inbetween the main updates. To me, it's unfair that one nation is able to expand their navy faster than another just because the first nation is at war. In my opinion war orders should be used for troop/fleet movements only.


How is a nation with war orders able to expand their navy faster than one without? You can buy tens of thousands of pounds worth of ships in a single turn. The reason people don't is because it costs ten of thousands of pounds.

There's no net difference between one normal order for five ships + one war order for five ships vs. one normal order for ten ships.
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@Nex: That's true. Even if I had war orders right now, I probably wouldn't use them to build up a fleet. I'm trying to get out of debt, not sink deeper into it.
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Speaking from one of the naval arms racers, I am not limited by orders, but money.
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How is a nation with war orders able to expand their navy faster than one without? You can buy tens of thousands of pounds worth of ships in a single turn. The reason people don't is because it costs ten of thousands of pounds.


I think its been established previously that debt is pretty meaningless in this game. In my opinion debt should have a negative effect on income (ie interest repayments)

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There's no net difference between one normal order for five ships + one war order for five ships vs. one normal order for ten ships.


Looking at previous updates there seems to be a certain build capacity that your shipyards are limited by. This could potentially be circumvented by multiple ship-building orders in one turn.
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I think its been established previously that debt is pretty meaningless in this game.


I think if you reach -100,000 you default and your country goes into chaos.
That's what I thought was going to happen anyway...
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Not to mention this frees up your regular orders to do non military things.
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Orders are far too precious to be used on just one thing, Dannaroo.
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Only if, Dannaroo, you didn't say to spread the ships over multiple years.
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Pasta Sentient said
Well, maybe if you didn't have peace with everyone you could too Mr. sour pants. You could always DOW me though if you wanted too. I kid I kid. I will profit more than just war orders. Hopefully.


Why would I want to abuse the system?
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solamelike said
I think if you reach -100,000 you default and your country goes into chaos. That's what I thought was going to happen anyway...

A limit would be good. But having an arbitrary value as a limit doesn't make sense. It should be determined using a percentage of your economy or something.
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It's not really abuse though.
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