Well lets have a group setting. Everybody votes like an old repbulic. No person holds the power. That way your still active and can still usurp power if needed.
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Innovative Engimas
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In all honesty Haz, you can just wiki the finer points if there is something you are unsure of. Such as the armour looks and costs, and the ratio of troops equipped with it to those in loincloths lol.
But that being said, getting one of these history buffs as a co gm might ease the pressure on you :)
But that being said, getting one of these history buffs as a co gm might ease the pressure on you :)
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I have a question related to races; Would having Orcs be out of the question? I know we were to keep it roughly humanoid but I don't know if Orcs are crossing some sort of hidden boundry.
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I think the whole ''roughly humanoid' was more so people didn't have nations full of sentient mushrooms or something.
And as long as everyone's humanoid the same technology can generally apply to them.
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Alright, thanks. Even though sentient mushrooms would be pretty awesome...
I do think we ought to revisit Legion's comments on some of the sheets on page 4, though and try to establish a concrete setting.
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Nation Name: The Hold of Grimmanar
Flag:
Region/color on map: Baragh
Capital Population:
Armgaudr: 100,000
Other Major Settlements:
Adalamar: 33,000
Adalamar specializes in forging, creating weapons and armor for the kingdom’s armies as well as materials for building the enormous structures used as banks, shops, taverns, etc.
Rakbar: 25,000
Rakbar is home to the farming community, which is relatively well put together. Under the leadership of humans, dwarves tend to crops and domesticated animals. However, the Dwarves aren’t the best at keeping food fresh, resulting in food being a mainly imported good.
Gornae: 32,500
Gornae is the place to go for training, whether it be mining, fighting, or drinking. The majority of King Thordrek Foesword’s royal army is trained here.
Glorla: 26,200
The central urban center, Glorla houses shops, taverns, museums, libraries, and homes for the common folk.
Population: 8,500,000
Racial demographics: 92% Dwarves (7,820,000), 5% Orcs (425,000), 3% Human (255,000)
The social system is split into six general classes; Royalty, Military, Merchants, Miners, Blacksmiths, and Citizens. The Royalty class consists of the King and his family, Politicians, Governors of settlements, Military Generals, and Representatives of the Merchant, Miner, Blacksmith, and Citizen classes. The Military class consists of all involved with war. This includes Generals, Platoon Commanders, soldiers, and even the military’s specialized forgers and blacksmiths, as well as war planners. Merchants encompass store owners and workers. Miners cover everyone in charge of claiming precious metals from the earth and mountains the Dwarves inhabit. Those including in this class are Mine Foremen's, Mine Chiefs, and Miners. The Blacksmith class is filled by Forgers, Armorers, and Smelters. Citizens cover the normal men and women of Grimmanar, as well as the policing forces.
Most Dwarves, Humans, and Orcs of Grimmanar believe in multiple deities, who are either Gods of certain trades or men and women from Grimmanar’s history that achieved God-like status and/or power. Dwarves, originally the only race in the kingdom, began allowing Humans and Orcs into their land. These ‘Outside’ races were either interested in Dwarven culture or exiled from their homelands. Dwarven culture believes in giving second chances, so King Orcspike allowed these refugees to enter Dwarven lands. This was two thousand years before the current ruler, King Thordrek Foesword. Travel through Baragh leads most through the capital city Armgaudr, as all roads in the country lead at some point to the capital.
Although considered poor, the common citizens of Grimmanar wear decent clothing. Common clothes usually consist of tunics with exotic furs made into the cloth, which is brought in by hunters. Pants are different colored tempered leathers, as is footwear.
Blacksmith and Miner classes wear the same type of clothing, although different colors to tell the two apart. The Blacksmith class wears darker colored clothes, such as black for forgers, burgandy for smelters, and navy for armorers. Miners, opposite the Blacksmiths, wear lighter colors, orange for formen, blue for chiefs, and white for miners. Merchants can wear any color clothing, and is usually the same as common citizens’ garb, yet with more ornate detailing. Military troops wear different armor types for each specialization, with the exception of the Generals in the Royalty class, who wear the same clothing as the other Royals, except their tunics are a sage color and their pants are either black or dark brown. Finally, the Royalty wear long coats of purple with collars of exotic furs with detailing made out of gold. Shirts are usually grey with silver detailing, and different symbols on their coats to help differentiate which class they represent. The King wears a long, deep red cape with his specialized pure gold chestplate and black pants. His crown is forged from silver and has precious gems studded into the top. Each King’s crown has been unique.
King’s Celebration (The first wednesday every two months), Tefna Granitefist’s victory against the Goblin Invasion (November 17), The First Coronation (August 4), Peace Day [Recognizing the end of the Dwarven Civil War] (March 19)
Dwarves are master builders, and thus their art consists mainly of structures, such as fountains and statues of their Gods and previous Kings.
Compared to some, Dwarven law is very lenient. If you are in debt to someone, be it a landlord, store owner, or even the Criminal Underground, either you pay them by the date they set or you are punished. If you wrong someone, you battle whomever you wronged to the death. You follow the rules set by the King and his Governors or pay the price.
The people of Grimmanar are well educated; Everyone knows how to read and write, and are either trained in a specialization or join the Royal Army.
Oligarchy: New King is selected every five years. There are a total of ten nominations for the crown, and they fight each other to the death until one nomination is left standing. This last nomination then challenges the current King for his position, and whoever wins is King, be it the newcomer or the same man.
Grimmanar, although militarily strong, does not wage open war. They save their power for when it is needed, such as the last Goblin Invasion.
King Thordrek Foesword, Military Commander and General Duerel Trollbreaker (The only General of his time to be in politics and the front lines), Governor of Gornae, Jorn Firehammer(In charge of Military training), politician Falan Orcspike(Descendant of King Orcspike; wishes to challenge Kind Foesword for the crown), and Baerya Metalworker of the Outlying Villages
As Dwarves aren’t the best farmers, most food is imported to Grimmanar, such as meats, potatoes, vegetables, and beers and ales. Each King has taxed his people differently depending on the situation of the Kingdom. King Foesword has lowered taxes on all citizens due to the peaceful times.
Armor and Weapon forging, jewelry crafting
Golden and Silver Coins called Thranarum(Gold) and Kolmmeck(Silver). Each Thranarum is worth 20 Kolmmeck. The terms Thranarum and Kolmmeck represent both singular and plural forms of the word.
425,000 Warriors out of Total Population During War Times, 200,000 Warriors Ready during Peace Times(Main Force complemented by Light Soldiers)
Heavy Warriors (50,000: 20,000 Human, 25,000 Orc, 5,000 Dwarf [Math may be a bit off, did it in my head, but should be correct]) Plate Chestpieces, Iron arm plates, gauntlets, greaves, and boots, using either Iron and Bronze comination shields and Iron longswords or Iron Battleaxes
Main Force (187,500: 40,500 Human, 47,000 Orc, 100,000 Dwarf) Iron Chest plates, iron shoulder pauldrons, and Iron leggings and boots, as well as chainmail under armor and gauntlets. Uses either smaller iron and wood shields and long/short swords or crossbows.
Light Soldiers (187,500: All Dwarf) Leather armor with Iron shoulder pauldrons, iron boots, and chainmail gauntlets. Uses short swords and shortbows.
(Details of amounts and types of soldiers. Any war vessels, siege machines or other military constructs go here as well)
Mountains and Valleys; Large lakes and winding rivers cutting through valleys and between mountains. Roads stay within the shadows of the mountains, as most villages are partially inside the mountains and outside of them. If not, a completely above-ground village is under the protection of it’s nearest in-mountain neighbor.
Wolves and foxes are common in the outside world as are trolls, ogres, and bears, while similar beasts roam the natural caves of the mountains, such as bears and trolls.
The King’s Palace, Armgaudr; Port Garak (Population 20,000), named after the warrior Garak Onyxheart
That's all I've completed and started on currently. Still working on it, hoping to have it finished by the weekend.
Flag:
Region/color on map: Baragh
Capital Population:
Armgaudr: 100,000
Other Major Settlements:
Adalamar: 33,000
Adalamar specializes in forging, creating weapons and armor for the kingdom’s armies as well as materials for building the enormous structures used as banks, shops, taverns, etc.
Rakbar: 25,000
Rakbar is home to the farming community, which is relatively well put together. Under the leadership of humans, dwarves tend to crops and domesticated animals. However, the Dwarves aren’t the best at keeping food fresh, resulting in food being a mainly imported good.
Gornae: 32,500
Gornae is the place to go for training, whether it be mining, fighting, or drinking. The majority of King Thordrek Foesword’s royal army is trained here.
Glorla: 26,200
The central urban center, Glorla houses shops, taverns, museums, libraries, and homes for the common folk.
Population: 8,500,000
Racial demographics: 92% Dwarves (7,820,000), 5% Orcs (425,000), 3% Human (255,000)
The social system is split into six general classes; Royalty, Military, Merchants, Miners, Blacksmiths, and Citizens. The Royalty class consists of the King and his family, Politicians, Governors of settlements, Military Generals, and Representatives of the Merchant, Miner, Blacksmith, and Citizen classes. The Military class consists of all involved with war. This includes Generals, Platoon Commanders, soldiers, and even the military’s specialized forgers and blacksmiths, as well as war planners. Merchants encompass store owners and workers. Miners cover everyone in charge of claiming precious metals from the earth and mountains the Dwarves inhabit. Those including in this class are Mine Foremen's, Mine Chiefs, and Miners. The Blacksmith class is filled by Forgers, Armorers, and Smelters. Citizens cover the normal men and women of Grimmanar, as well as the policing forces.
Most Dwarves, Humans, and Orcs of Grimmanar believe in multiple deities, who are either Gods of certain trades or men and women from Grimmanar’s history that achieved God-like status and/or power. Dwarves, originally the only race in the kingdom, began allowing Humans and Orcs into their land. These ‘Outside’ races were either interested in Dwarven culture or exiled from their homelands. Dwarven culture believes in giving second chances, so King Orcspike allowed these refugees to enter Dwarven lands. This was two thousand years before the current ruler, King Thordrek Foesword. Travel through Baragh leads most through the capital city Armgaudr, as all roads in the country lead at some point to the capital.
Although considered poor, the common citizens of Grimmanar wear decent clothing. Common clothes usually consist of tunics with exotic furs made into the cloth, which is brought in by hunters. Pants are different colored tempered leathers, as is footwear.
Blacksmith and Miner classes wear the same type of clothing, although different colors to tell the two apart. The Blacksmith class wears darker colored clothes, such as black for forgers, burgandy for smelters, and navy for armorers. Miners, opposite the Blacksmiths, wear lighter colors, orange for formen, blue for chiefs, and white for miners. Merchants can wear any color clothing, and is usually the same as common citizens’ garb, yet with more ornate detailing. Military troops wear different armor types for each specialization, with the exception of the Generals in the Royalty class, who wear the same clothing as the other Royals, except their tunics are a sage color and their pants are either black or dark brown. Finally, the Royalty wear long coats of purple with collars of exotic furs with detailing made out of gold. Shirts are usually grey with silver detailing, and different symbols on their coats to help differentiate which class they represent. The King wears a long, deep red cape with his specialized pure gold chestplate and black pants. His crown is forged from silver and has precious gems studded into the top. Each King’s crown has been unique.
King’s Celebration (The first wednesday every two months), Tefna Granitefist’s victory against the Goblin Invasion (November 17), The First Coronation (August 4), Peace Day [Recognizing the end of the Dwarven Civil War] (March 19)
Dwarves are master builders, and thus their art consists mainly of structures, such as fountains and statues of their Gods and previous Kings.
Compared to some, Dwarven law is very lenient. If you are in debt to someone, be it a landlord, store owner, or even the Criminal Underground, either you pay them by the date they set or you are punished. If you wrong someone, you battle whomever you wronged to the death. You follow the rules set by the King and his Governors or pay the price.
The people of Grimmanar are well educated; Everyone knows how to read and write, and are either trained in a specialization or join the Royal Army.
Oligarchy: New King is selected every five years. There are a total of ten nominations for the crown, and they fight each other to the death until one nomination is left standing. This last nomination then challenges the current King for his position, and whoever wins is King, be it the newcomer or the same man.
Grimmanar, although militarily strong, does not wage open war. They save their power for when it is needed, such as the last Goblin Invasion.
King Thordrek Foesword, Military Commander and General Duerel Trollbreaker (The only General of his time to be in politics and the front lines), Governor of Gornae, Jorn Firehammer(In charge of Military training), politician Falan Orcspike(Descendant of King Orcspike; wishes to challenge Kind Foesword for the crown), and Baerya Metalworker of the Outlying Villages
As Dwarves aren’t the best farmers, most food is imported to Grimmanar, such as meats, potatoes, vegetables, and beers and ales. Each King has taxed his people differently depending on the situation of the Kingdom. King Foesword has lowered taxes on all citizens due to the peaceful times.
Armor and Weapon forging, jewelry crafting
Golden and Silver Coins called Thranarum(Gold) and Kolmmeck(Silver). Each Thranarum is worth 20 Kolmmeck. The terms Thranarum and Kolmmeck represent both singular and plural forms of the word.
425,000 Warriors out of Total Population During War Times, 200,000 Warriors Ready during Peace Times(Main Force complemented by Light Soldiers)
Heavy Warriors (50,000: 20,000 Human, 25,000 Orc, 5,000 Dwarf [Math may be a bit off, did it in my head, but should be correct]) Plate Chestpieces, Iron arm plates, gauntlets, greaves, and boots, using either Iron and Bronze comination shields and Iron longswords or Iron Battleaxes
Main Force (187,500: 40,500 Human, 47,000 Orc, 100,000 Dwarf) Iron Chest plates, iron shoulder pauldrons, and Iron leggings and boots, as well as chainmail under armor and gauntlets. Uses either smaller iron and wood shields and long/short swords or crossbows.
Light Soldiers (187,500: All Dwarf) Leather armor with Iron shoulder pauldrons, iron boots, and chainmail gauntlets. Uses short swords and shortbows.
(Details of amounts and types of soldiers. Any war vessels, siege machines or other military constructs go here as well)
Mountains and Valleys; Large lakes and winding rivers cutting through valleys and between mountains. Roads stay within the shadows of the mountains, as most villages are partially inside the mountains and outside of them. If not, a completely above-ground village is under the protection of it’s nearest in-mountain neighbor.
Wolves and foxes are common in the outside world as are trolls, ogres, and bears, while similar beasts roam the natural caves of the mountains, such as bears and trolls.
The King’s Palace, Armgaudr; Port Garak (Population 20,000), named after the warrior Garak Onyxheart
That's all I've completed and started on currently. Still working on it, hoping to have it finished by the weekend.
6,000,000 Warriors out of Total Population
Heavy Warriors (1,000,000: 55,000 Human, 125,000 Orc, 820,000 Dwarf [Math may be a bit off, did it in my head, but should be correct]) Plate Chestpieces, Iron arm plates, gauntlets, greaves, and boots, using either Iron and Bronze comination shields and Iron longswords or Iron Battleaxes
Main Force (3,000,000: 100,000 Human, 100,000 Orc, 2,800,000 Dwarf) Iron Chest plates, iron shoulder pauldrons, and Iron leggings and boots, as well as chainmail under armor and gauntlets. Uses either smaller iron and wood shields and long/short swords or crossbows.
Light Soldiers (2,000,000: All Dwarf) Leather armor with Iron shoulder pauldrons, iron boots, and chainmail gauntlets. Uses short swords and shortbows.
(Details of amounts and types of soldiers. Any war vessels, siege machines or other military constructs go here as well)
-Population: 8,500,000
-Military: 6,000,000
-Military: 6,000,000
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I'm fixing. Already been told it's too much. I was also half asleep, soooo I'm an idiot.
I offer a sincere apology on behalf of my own stupidity
I offer a sincere apology on behalf of my own stupidity
Mista Slaya
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I'm new to this. I is just a baby. Please forgive me.
Mista Slaya said
I'm fixing. Already been told it's too much. I was also half asleep, soooo I'm an idiot. I offer a sincere apology on behalf of my own stupidity
Oh.
I was about to start hemorrhaging or something for a second.
lol
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I've now fixed the ridiculously high amount of soldiers in the army and is now at a relatively normal number.
Aristo said
-Population: 8,500,000-Military: 6,000,000
Sorry, but I think your pic reads into it more than the awesome gif lol
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Huh-hoo!
Let's bring up the link that was posted earlier in the thread: http://www.writing-world.com/sf/hordes.shtml
Now, according to the handy, dandy chart, we have a base population of 4 million. The following takes the numbers used in the link above into account.
Assuming that women don't typically fight (only 10% do in this case), we can rule out nearly half our population. We have to subtract percentages of our population that are too old or young to fight, as well as those with professions that disallow them going to war (academia, secular duties, religious affiliation, etc.), also, those who are not physically capable or are otherwise criminals (who are in the dungeons, or don't obey the law at all, and avoid drafts). In all, we have 87.9 percent of the base population that is unfit for war. This leaves us with a measly recruiting pool of 484,000 out of 4 million people. Further account must be made for those who fall sick, which is easy to do in camps packed full of men. We'll subtract a further 50% from 484,000, leaving us with 240,000 able bodies. But that's not all! These men are never in a single place, and divided into counties, under the rule of different barons and nobles. They are needed to guard towns, cities, forts, etc. and so we'll subtract 80% to represent them scattered around the land.
All this leaves us with a national army of just 48,000 men, readily able to be mustered for war. 48,000 out of 240,000 combat-fit men, out of a population of 4 million. And that's not taking deserters, rebels and the like into account.
Let's bring up the link that was posted earlier in the thread: http://www.writing-world.com/sf/hordes.shtml
Now, according to the handy, dandy chart, we have a base population of 4 million. The following takes the numbers used in the link above into account.
Assuming that women don't typically fight (only 10% do in this case), we can rule out nearly half our population. We have to subtract percentages of our population that are too old or young to fight, as well as those with professions that disallow them going to war (academia, secular duties, religious affiliation, etc.), also, those who are not physically capable or are otherwise criminals (who are in the dungeons, or don't obey the law at all, and avoid drafts). In all, we have 87.9 percent of the base population that is unfit for war. This leaves us with a measly recruiting pool of 484,000 out of 4 million people. Further account must be made for those who fall sick, which is easy to do in camps packed full of men. We'll subtract a further 50% from 484,000, leaving us with 240,000 able bodies. But that's not all! These men are never in a single place, and divided into counties, under the rule of different barons and nobles. They are needed to guard towns, cities, forts, etc. and so we'll subtract 80% to represent them scattered around the land.
All this leaves us with a national army of just 48,000 men, readily able to be mustered for war. 48,000 out of 240,000 combat-fit men, out of a population of 4 million. And that's not taking deserters, rebels and the like into account.
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Come now, temper your response to this.
I'm working with Slaya to find out what is suitable for his nation. Do not apply human restrictions to a non-human race, that is a fallacy.
I'm working with Slaya to find out what is suitable for his nation. Do not apply human restrictions to a non-human race, that is a fallacy.
Well, you could switch the numbers up a little if you have a race that is greatly resilient to illness, or allows women to fight regularly, or has some exception to the above. I'm just trying to give people an idea of the disparity between the total population and the actual war force they can be expected to field.
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