[OOC] D E A T H N O T E – "Who, me?"

[Rogue Sloth]

I think I'm gonna wait for Nobody and Falconi before I add my next post

[ImportantNobody]

Sketcher said
No... in the last chapter, after Light's death, he's known as L.And we know N isn't dead because he did a trick where he set a certain date of death for himself so Kira couldn't kill him with the notebook.

The rules seem to be that the maximum length of time you could have as a result of writing your name in the death note is 23 days. If the death would take 24 days or longer they just die in the normal heart attack in 6 minutes 40 seconds instead. Therefore, all you're doing with that plan is buying yourself time to not get killed by the death note immediately. If the death note worked forever you could become practically immortal by saying you die at whatever age you prefer.

[Sketcher]

Well, we know that 10 years later, N/newL would most likely be alive. At least he was alive 1 year after the event, when we see him talking about one of the people who had the Death Note but said he wouldn't take up the case because it wasn't worth it, and eventually the guy ended up dying. The point is, when 'L', the currently 10 year old girl was born, N was still alive and had picked up the title L (since the first L's death was never officially announced, I believe). The possible successors from the orphanage were all given different letters so naming one L is just plain weird. I don't think that their names actually change at one point and having the name 'L' probably doesn't automatically make you the successor, as seen in N and M's cases. If it did, that would mean they would have decided she would become the successor the day she was brought to the orphanage or perhaps the day she was born, since she apparently already has a reputation for being a great detective and was probably in the orphanage for quite some time. It's absurd to have 2 Ls at the same time and have one of them be the successor of the other while the letter doesn't really carry any meaning.

What making yourself the successor sounds like to me

You're practically saying, even if unintentionally, you're the best detective without RPing it.

EDIT: Actually here, we see just when he was last seen, which I'm just adding to support my point (don't want to call it an argument -. -.)

Also, fun fact

In an extra chapter, it was revealed that if you erase a name from the Death Note, that person will be revived :3

[ImportantNobody]

Sketcher said
Well, we know that 10 years later, N/newL would most likely be alive. At least he was alive 1 year after the event, when we see him talking about one of the people who had the Death Note but said he wouldn't take up the case because it wasn't worth it, and eventually the guy ended up dying. The point is, when 'L', the currently 10 year old girl was born, N was still alive and had picked up the title L (since the first L's death was never officially announced, I believe). The possible successors from the orphanage were all given different letters so naming one L is just plain weird. I don't think that their names actually change at one point and having the name 'L' probably doesn't automatically make you the successor, as seen in N and M's cases. If it did, that would mean they would have decided she would become the successor the day she was brought to the orphanage or perhaps the day she was born, since she apparently already has a reputation for being a great detective and was probably in the orphanage for quite some time. It's absurd to have 2 Ls at the same time and have one of them be the successor of the other while the letter doesn't really carry any meaning.

When did N write his name in the Death Note? Certainly not during the events of the manga. N still being alive for the fake Kira was part of the manga where he didn't write his name in the death note, so in that canon he would be alive still for that very reason. If there's a canon (from a book or something?) where he did write his name in the death note it's not part of the manga, so him still being alive (or death in 23 days if he did write his name in the death note) in that canon doesn't really matter for the events of the manga. For the revival plot, are you speaking of the Death Eraser? That was part of the original concept used in the manga's pilot. That idea was excluded in the official manga.

Not saying for sure that we can't use stuff from non-canon parts of the death note series (or if other things are canon then that's fine too), but I'm just basing things off of the manga for this roleplay at the moment.

As for the naming scheme of the orphanage, I'm under the impression that our characters didn't have any part in it, although some may or may not have as a personal preference. The orphanage was to see who would become L, while all we are is detectives working together. Thus we don't need to care about the naming scheme of the orphanage.

[Rogue Sloth]

The 23 days was for diseases, I believe.

Rule XXVII: If you write, die of disease for the cause of death, but only write a specific time of death without the actual name of disease, the human will die from an adequate disease. But the Death Note can only operate within 23 days (in the human calendar). This is called the 23 day rule.

That thing about erasing doesn't make sense...

Rule XI: The time and conditions of death can be changed, but once the victim's name has been written, the individual's death can never be avoided.
Rule XLI: It is useless trying to erase names written in the Death Note with erasers or white-out.

[ruronihs]

Ok, I'mma solve the N problem right now. He got bored with detective work and used his keen intellect to become the CEO of a the world's largest toy company and has never been happier since. lol.

[ImportantNobody]

Summer said
The 23 days was for diseases, I believe.That thing about erasing doesn't make sense...

After it says all the information it adds on "But", going on to say the death note can only operate within 23 days, which seems to imply that there isn't exceptions to that 23 day thing as far as the death note is concerned. It the 23 day rules strictly applies to disease it could have been phrased much better to say "any disease can go as far as 23 days", not saying "The death note can only go 23 days". Of course it could just be a poor English translation, but it makes sense that way over allowing someone to become immortal by writing their death at any time it's convenient. If that was possible you would think any number of the characters, especially Light, would have thought of that.

To further prove the point, in synopsis of a movie that I found dealing with writing your name in the Death Note it indeed says that L writes "L Lawliet will die 23 days from this date". He obviously was under the impression that the 23 day rule works for everything or else he would have almost certainly not killed himself off at that time. Not that I'm using movies as canon for the manga, but that seems to imply how it would work for the manga as well in this instance if L had actually done that.

The death eraser was before the rules were all thought up when it was just a concept, so it made sense at the time even if it was a lame idea that is good it was changed.

ruronihs said
Ok, I'mma solve the N problem right now. He got bored with detective work and used his keen intellect to become the CEO of a the world's largest toy company and has never been happier since. lol.

I'll go with that too. Or we can say he did write his name in the Death Note and offed himself that way some time after the manga ended.

[Sketcher]

Summer said That thing about erasing doesn't make sense...

It might not make sense but the author made an extra chapter where a little boy got it, accidentally killed someone and revived them (though apparently it was a special eraser http://deathnote.wikia.com/wiki/Death_Eraser ).

EDIT: Got ninja'd xD
But that suggestion about N is so out of character...

[ImportantNobody]

I wonder what that Ryuk was thinking to give him a death eraser. I won't even call him Ryuk. That one shall be called...Pyuk.

Maybe the real L (Near) is investigating another Kira some other place?

[Sketcher]

ImportantNobody said
I wonder what that Ryuk was thinking to give him a death eraser. I won't even call him Ryuk. That one shall be called...Pyuk.Maybe the real L (Near) is investigating another Kira some other place?

The issue is that the successor of L's name is also L and this name was given while Near (currently publicly known as L) is alive. Having 2 Ls makes no sense since the only reason N assumed the name L is that L's death wasn't announced to the public (right?). So the letter L doesn't really carry any meaning at all, it's just the position that the guy whose name was L had taken that is being passed down rather than the name L itself.

[ImportantNobody]

I don't see why there can't be two Ls, perhaps to confuse kira which is the real one? Of course it's painfully obvious to our characters this L couldn't be the previous one, but other people wouldn't know who's who.

I'm assuming our character letters are just fake and don't hold any real meaning.

As for Near taking the letter L, it was as you say part of keeping L's death a secret, but I truly don't know for sure if you automatically get the "rank" of L or if he just took the letter only for that reason. I thought it was a rank.

[Alyss Dolyss]

ruronihs said
Ok, I'mma solve the N problem right now. He got bored with detective work and used his keen intellect to become the CEO of a the world's largest toy company and has never been happier since. lol.

Side note: I laughed at this way too long. Oh my God, man. I don't even know why. lol

[Shisa]

Alright, then. I'll drop off a character to be considered just in case as well.

Appearance:

A little like this except less dark and grumpy

Alias: J

Age: 28

Role: Detective

Personality: J’s apparent personality could be best described as that of an immature, somewhat childish moron. He’s nearly incapable of taking anything seriously, and can’t seem to work unless the environment he’s in is jovial and relaxed. He loves movies and television shows, and tends to reference media often. Despite his childish and often moronic demeanor, however, he has solved hundreds of difficult cases all over the world. It’s come to the point where it is impossible to deny that he is somehow a genius under all that idiocy. He loves to talk (perhaps too much), is always friendly, and tends to crack a lot of jokes to ease the room- especially when tensions are high.

Why he/she took the Kira case: He just really doesn't like mass murder- go figure. Also he figured that the job would pay pretty well if they caught the guy, and that’s always a plus.

Other: J is incredibly observant and has a very detailed memory. He barely knows any Japanese, but he figures that he’ll cope somehow.

[Rogue Sloth]

J is accepted :)

[Sketcher]

ImportantNobody said
I don't see why there can't be two Ls, perhaps to confuse kira which is the real one? Of course it's painfully obvious to our characters this L couldn't be the previous one, but other people wouldn't know who's who.I'm assuming our character letters are just fake and don't hold any real meaning.As for Near taking the letter L, it was as you say part of keeping L's death a secret, but I truly don't know for sure if you automatically get the "rank" of L or if he just took the letter only for that reason. I thought it was a rank.

I'm almost sure that L is the first person to be at that level. I really don't think that the letter itself has any meaning. For example, if L was to die of old age, N probably wasn't going to take the name L when he succeeded him. So having the letter L doesn't actually mean anything. L's just the person. If the letters were ranks, they'd probably give L the letter A or Z when he got to where he did.

[Shisa]

I assumed that our letter-based code names don't have anything to do with Wammy's House seeing as our characters aren't supposed to know each other. As such, it shouldn't matter at all what our code letters are whether it's L or N.

It's probably to keep identities secret as an anonymous think tank so that no one detective has sway over the others or even as a scare tactic against Kira. Like "The original was beaten by just L, and we've got the whole damn alphabet on your butt."

[Tatsua Aiisen]

My L is just using the name L, she is not the L.

[Shisa]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Just because she's L doesn't mean that she's L.

But if she was, she'd have solved the first Kira case as an infant. I imagine she's just bouncing up and down in a stroller, and Soichiro brings by a bunch of mug shots and asks "Is this the guy?" until she spits up on Light's picture.

[Rogue Sloth]

School is starting up today, so I'll have to add my post when I get home. Hopefully I'll get it done 9-10 hours from now

[Sketcher]

@Falconi - Is that an actual study? If so, could you send me a link? I looked for some study about murderers with a god-complex but I couldn't really find anything.