Fate/Stay Night: The Revenge of Kyubey

[JohnWolff]

Or Faux/Electric Sheep - based off the well-known question (which is asking if something that seems human and acts human but isn't human, then what DOES define humans?) and could relate to the 'real' Masters and their 'fictional' Servants, all of who have a wish they want granted.

@RBYDark

I love the concept behind that naming... but the sound of that title just doesn't feel... epic. It feels like a scientific experiment. lol... But like I said, I love the concept behind that naming, so if you have anything else similar, feel free to shoot.

[The Silver Paladin]

Fate/renewal Fate/Warpath Fate/Ressurection Fate/Heroes

[RBYDark]

Update, 'Electric Sheep' sounds considerably less epic in Latin, and its bar was already low. Did try looking at some other (possibly) relevant Latin and Greek. Fate/Anima Mundi (the idea all living things are linked), Faux/Conatus (the 'innate inclination for a thing to continue to exist and enhance itself'), Faux/Outis (Greek pseudonym meaning 'nobody', more or less) or Fate/Meliora (this one has a general variety of translations but generally boils down to 'Better'). Iunno, it's past 1 AM. If none appeal, I'll think more tomorrow.

[JohnWolff]

Fate/Anima Mundi (the idea all living things are linked), Faux/Conatus (the 'innate inclination for a thing to continue to exist and enhance itself'), Faux/Outis (Greek pseudonym meaning 'nobody', more or less) or Fate/Meliora (this one has a general variety of translations but generally boils down to 'Better'). Iunno, it's past 1 AM. If none appeal, I'll think more tomorrow.

@RBYDark

Yeah... I don't know. None of those have the same meaning I'm looking for in "Electric Sheep", where the question of whether humanity exists in non-humans/fictional characters. Thanks for the hard work though. lol You've really put in quite the effort. Edit: Never mind. "Faux/Outis" sounds good. I might work around that title. Edit 2: I've got a better one - Fate/Puella Magi. "Fate as a slave of the magi (Puella can mean "Slave")."

[Psyga315]

Edit 2: I've got a better one - Fate/Puella Magi. "Fate as a slave of the magi (Puella can mean "Slave")."

@JohnWolff

That works.

[RBYDark]

'Puella' applied to female slaves exclusively (one reason it worked really well for the show due to its double-meaning). Granted, I don't know of any purely gender-neutral Latin words for 'slave'.

[The Silver Paladin]

Fate/Servi Servi can actually apply to all slaves. Fate/Domini (I just got back from Latin Class.)

[RBYDark]

Huh, that's pretty neat. I guess then it'd be along the lines of Fate/Servi Magi if GM wants to change.

[JohnWolff]

'Puella' applied to female slaves exclusively (one reason it worked really well for the show due to its double-meaning).

@RBYDark

Well, technically, the magical girls would be the only ones who are enslaved by Kyubey in the story. Seeing as all other forms of Servants who aren't magical girls won't retain their memories like the way magical girls would after each Holy Grail War, their fate aren't so much as slaves but more like the familiars they were in the Fate universe. But I see your point nonetheless. Fate/Servi Magi is more appropriate for applying to both gender, I agree... but meh, I don't know. :/ "Servi"? I'm not really feeling it. It doesn't sound as cool as "Puella", especially considering that "Puella Magi" is already an official term, unlike "Servi Magi".

[The Silver Paladin]

'Puella' applied to female slaves exclusively (one reason it worked really well for the show due to its double-meaning).

@RBYDark

Well, technically, the magical girls would be the only ones who are enslaved by Kyubey in the story. Seeing as all other forms of Servants who aren't magical girls won't retain their memories like the way magical girls would after each Holy Grail War, their fate aren't so much as slaves but more like the familiars they were in the Fate universe. But I see your point nonetheless. Fate/Servi Magi is more appropriate for applying to both gender, I agree... but meh, I don't know. :/ "Servi"? I'm not really feeling it. It doesn't sound as cool as "Puella", especially considering that "Puella Magi" is already an official term, unlike "Servi Magi".

@JohnWolff

The Romans would laugh at you for incorrect grammar usage in this statement, considering we also have Male servants.

[JohnWolff]

The Romans would laugh at you!

@The Silver Paladin

You mean the same Romans wearing armored dresses? Yeah. Whatever... And besides, the RP needs some crossover elements from Madoka. I'm feeling like it's getting distanced from being a Fate/Madoka RP with each post, and becoming just a mere Fate RP instead.

[The Silver Paladin]

The Romans would laugh at you!

@The Silver Paladin

You mean the same Romans wearing armored dresses? Yeah. Whatever... And besides, the RP needs some crossover elements from Madoka. I'm feeling like it's getting distanced from being a Fate/Madoka RP with each post, and becoming just a mere Fate RP instead.

@JohnWolff

I said Grammar wise, considering we have MALE ones as well, and servi was a general term for slaves. Edit: Also, I don't see you conquering the known world.

[JohnWolff]

I said Grammar wise, considering we have MALE ones as well, and servi was a general term for slaves. Edit: Also, I don't see you conquering the known world.

@The Silver Paladin

And as I've explained, non-magical girls won't be slaves in the RP. But that doesn't really matter. It's a freaking RP title. Unless you could come up with a cooler title than "Servi Magi" that sounds like some kind of circuitboard, I suggest you drop the attitude while I still withhold your spot on the RP, "Michael".

[RBYDark]

Oh, that reminds me, I forgot Archangel Michael does show up in a fictional work, Paladin. Ever read 'Paradise Lost'?

[The Silver Paladin]

I said Grammar wise, considering we have MALE ones as well, and servi was a general term for slaves. Edit: Also, I don't see you conquering the known world.

@The Silver Paladin

And as I've explained, non-magical girls won't be slaves in the RP. But that doesn't really matter. It's a freaking RP title. Unless you could come up with a cooler title than "Servi Magi" that sounds like some kind of circuitboard, I suggest you drop the attitude while I still withhold your spot on the RP, "Micheal".

@JohnWolff

Servi Magi actually makes more sens in latin. who takes a Latin class? I don't care if you take my role away! I'm making my own! Screw you! Edit: Alright, that was rude of me. I'm sorry. I shouldn't have said that. That was wrong of me.

[The Silver Paladin]

Oh, that reminds me, I forgot Archangel Michael does show up in a fictional work, Paladin. Ever read 'Paradise Lost'?

@RBYDark

yes.

[JohnWolff]

Servi Magi actually makes more sens in latin. who takes a Latin class?

@The Silver Paladin

I thought Latin's a dead language. Anyway, being a Fate/Madoka crossover, Fate/Puella Magi sounds more appropriate than some generalized term.

[The Silver Paladin]

Servi Magi actually makes more sens in latin. who takes a Latin class?

@The Silver Paladin

I thought Latin's a dead language. Anyway, being a Fate/Madoka crossover, Fate/Puella Magi sounds more appropriate than some generalized term.

@JohnWolff

That's what everybody says. It's fairly common in: Law Business Medicine Science Religion Learning other languages

[JohnWolff]

A preview of the Codex that will serve as information for those unknowledgeable about the Fate and/or Madoka universe. Feel free to add anything I've missed, or suggest anything that I should deduct from this lengthy writing. Edit: I've decided to display only the information about the RP's changes to the lore fans of both Fate and Madoka franchise would need to know. The roles for the Church, the Mage's Association, as well as Kirei Kotomine in the story are rather weak as of now, but I might come up with better uses for them in the future. Feel free to drop suggestions until then.

Lore Changes to Take Note

Fate

The Holy Grail Kyubey has created a fake Holy Grail that doesn’t serve any purpose other than as a “MacGuffin” the Masters and Servants would pursue throughout every Holy Grail War. Servants Through the actions of Kirei Kotomine, it is now a commonly accepted practice among magi to summon Servants from other realities, Servants who would either be considered fictional or just non-existent altogether within the Fate universe. This is due to the fact that many ‘Fictional Servants’ as they were called possess powers beyond imagination that transcend the abilities of existing heroes as well as the limited mythologies of ancient history. Science fiction heroes with the power to destroy an entire galaxy at a whim can now be summoned, thanks to the assistance of Kyubey, who has traveled across the realities forming contracts with these unique individuals to become Heroic Spirits. Unfortunately, Heroic Spirits are no longer summoned as mere copies. Kyubey has utilised using Incubator alien tech a Holy Grail powerful enough to summon the actual bodies of the Heroic Spirits, enslaving them as Servants for all eternity as they are resummoned with each Holy Grail War. To ensure their loyalty, Kyubey wipes out their memories each time they are defeated in the Wars. Magical Girls who were turned into Servants by Kyubey, particularly those originating from Kyubey’s reality, won’t receive such a treatment, as their memories are retained with each summoning. Kyubey also has a nasty streak of pairing up Magical Girl Servants with abusive Masters, thus earning it the title, “Space Pimp”. The Holy Church and the Mage’s Association As of Kyubey and Kotomine’s takeover of the Wars, both the Church and the Mage’s Association have been closed down and are now past relics of a forgotten era, having been wiped out by the vast technology of both the Incubators and Koyemshi. A faux version of both the Church and the Association remains active, however, as a front for the more curious parties. Kirei Kotomine Before Kirei was ‘killed’, he had formed a contract with Kyubey such that he would transform into a Heroic Spirit after his death. He has been observing the newly formed Holy Grail Wars throughout the centuries as a lingering spirit powered by Kyubey’s technology. Instead of participating in the Wars, however, he chose to remain a dutiful observer… for now.

Puella Magi

Kyubey After being cursed with human emotions by its enslaver, Homura Akemi, and in turn granted freedom by Koyemshi, its pursuit in life is no longer the ending of entropy, but the enslavement and torture of Magical Girls for all eternity. Magical Girls Due to Homura Akemi’s actions, Kyubey has now turned Magical Girls into Servants of the Holy Grail War, retaining their painful memories every time they are summoned into a new war. Homura Akemi Homura’s actions in cursing Kyubey with emotions cost her greatly when Kyubey decided to seek its revenge. Homura’s current fate is unknown, but needless to say, she has been properly dealt with by Kyubey. Koyemshi Originally human, he was turned into a floating fuzzball by the mysterious entities known as the “Masterminds”. In his reality, battle royales not unlike the Holy Grail Wars were held throughout the galaxy, using giant robots instead of historical/mythological figures. Most recently, he granted Kyubey the power to traverse between reality, as well as other technologies that helped created the fake Holy Grail, more out of amusement rather than any grand purpose.

[The Silver Paladin]

Alright, I'm using Michael from Paradise Lost. That's essentially every view of Michael ever. And the codex seems good.