[OOC] Madou: Vivid World

[Madani]

That confirm it, I'm bad at joking. I wonder why my words often taken by people seriously

[chukklehed]

Stick to being sensei

[Leos Klien]

That confirm it, I'm bad at joking. I wonder why my words often taken by people seriously

@Madani

Happens to all of us Madani :D

[Grey]

Alrighty, supposed I'll take a defibrillator to this RP. @Masaki Haruna, is it cool if I use Arata's power to seal up the rift or is that a no-go? Alternatively if I'm not allowed to do that, am I allowed to have him blue screen at the sight of it as his puny human mind cannot comprehend the chaos of the other dimension, thus opening up a development path for insane Lovecraftian spatial manipulation?

[Masaki Haruna]

It is a go go! @Raijin, Accepted.

[Madani]

I'll explain about Magic later. I'll just state the obvious for now.

@Madani

A week had passed since the day I said that. Since I had nothing to do, here is it:

Fundamental of Madou

There are two types of Madou, one used by Mages and another for domestic use. Madou, in a sense, is a device that convert [Pure Energy] into other form of energy. Madou consisted of three inner-devices, these are [Pure Energy Bank] (PEB), [Pure Energy Converter] (PEC), and [Pure Energy Absorber] (PEA). There are two types of [PEB], one is called [Internal Pure Energy Bank] (IPEB) and [External Pure Energy Bank] (EPEB). [IPEB] are [PEB] that equipped directly into the Madou whilst [EPEB] are not, which is similar to power-bank for cellphone. To put it in perspective, [IPEB] are primary memory (RAM) and [EPEB] are secondary memory (HDD) for computer. [EPEB] also has [PEA] on it to refill energy similar to a Madou but without a [PEC]. [PEA] work as a brake or stopping mechanism. When told so, it will re-convert and dissolve the produced magic or energy back into [Pure Energy]. In case of the Madou is running out of energy, [PEA] will passively refill the [PEB] by absorbing nearby [Pure Energy] in the air. [PEC] are the mechanism that produce magic or energy. [PEC] on domenstic-use Madou is preset and only able to convert [Pure Energy] into determined energy such as wind force, electricity, fire, etc. Meanwhile, mage-use Madou will convert [Pure Energy] into form of Magic. Every action of mage-use Madou are controlled by the user's will and mental state. Madou detect this through the user brainwave. The user's brainwave pattern and data are registered in advance upon equipping, making other people unable to use it. If the user are mentally weak, the less powerful/complex magic can be produced as the user's mind will be the core of the magic mechanism. Madou shapes and size varies. Old types tent to be bigger, akin to generations of computer. As time advance, smaller and stronger Madou are produced. Trivia: The name Madou comes from the Japanese word 魔導 which consist of the word [Ma (Magic)] and [Shirube (Guide or Guidance)]. This actually meant as placeholder until we (Me, and Haruna) come out with better name, but eventually used as official name instead. Incidentally, same happens with the term [Pure Energy] as it also start as a placeholder.

Man, I'm starting to forget what else to say about Madou. Any question?

[Raijinslayer]

<Snipped quote by Madani> A week had passed since the day I said that. Since I had nothing to do, here is it:

Fundamental of Madou

There are two types of Madou, one used by Mages and another for domestic use. Madou, in a sense, is a device that convert [Pure Energy] into other form of energy. Madou consisted of three inner-devices, these are [Pure Energy Bank] (PEB), [Pure Energy Converter] (PEC), and [Pure Energy Absorber] (PEA). There are two types of [PEB], one is called [Internal Pure Energy Bank] (IPEB) and [External Pure Energy Bank] (EPEB). [IPEB] are [PEB] that equipped directly into the Madou whilst [EPEB] are not, which is similar to power-bank for cellphone. To put it in perspective, [IPEB] are primary memory (RAM) and [EPEB] are secondary memory (HDD) for computer. [EPEB] also has [PEA] on it to refill energy similar to a Madou but without a [PEC]. [PEA] work as a brake or stopping mechanism. When told so, it will re-convert and dissolve the produced magic or energy back into [Pure Energy]. In case of the Madou is running out of energy, [PEA] will passively refill the [PEB] by absorbing nearby [Pure Energy] in the air. [PEC] are the mechanism that produce magic or energy. [PEC] on domenstic-use Madou is preset and only able to convert [Pure Energy] into determined energy such as wind force, electricity, fire, etc. Meanwhile, mage-use Madou will convert [Pure Energy] into form of Magic. Every action of mage-use Madou are controlled by the user's will and mental state. Madou detect this through the user brainwave. The user's brainwave pattern and data are registered in advance upon equipping, making other people unable to use it. If the user are mentally weak, the less powerful/complex magic can be produced as the user's mind will be the core of the magic mechanism. Madou shapes and size varies. Old types tent to be bigger, akin to generations of computer. As time advance, smaller and stronger Madou are produced. Trivia: The name Madou comes from the Japanese word 魔導 which consist of the word [Ma (Magic)] and [Shirube (Guide or Guidance)]. This actually meant as placeholder until we (Me, and Haruna) come out with better name, but eventually used as official name instead. Incidentally, same happens with the term [Pure Energy] as it also start as a placeholder.

Man, I'm starting to forget what else to say about Madou. Any question?

@Madani

Yeah I'm lost, so let's go with this. My guy is to have a sword and shield as his Madou, the sword will be for controlling wind in a way to cause damage to opponents, like pressurizing it into a blade or bullet form, as well as more utility-based uses, like for grabbing and lifting. It can also set the wind it makes on fire, to give it a more destructive, less precise impact. The shield would be focusing on defense, obviously, by making the bulk of it be made of wind. He''d also have a braclet for his mental interference stuff, which he would use to cause hallucinations and parnoia in the target, as well as possibly using it to vanish from their senses. He could also hack into their mind in order to take information, although something like that would require that they be stationary and sedated, so as to make the process easier and to make sure the information gathered, as well as the mind of the subject, are without harm. Does this sound plausible?

[chukklehed]

It's really not that hard Rai. This is BASIC application of theoretical partical physics in a fictional setting.

[Madani]

@Raijinslayer Madou's "magic" works differently from normal magic. It simply adding "type of energy" to the desired spot, object, or subject. Kinetic energy, heat, electricity, forces, and such. It cannot directly interfere with other person's senses perception. Naturally, cause hallucinations and parnoia would be impossible. Basically, you cannot do anything that directly affect a person state of mind, like mind reading. However, causing headaches, blocking fregrance, lowering movement speed, all can be executed by lowering air pressure. To sum it out, think of a power/magic that instead, create the environment that would affect the target into the desired state. Like if you want someone to faint, sweep away the air.

[Grey]

It is a go go!

@Masaki Haruna

Curses. Insane Lovecraftian spatial manipulation would've been cool. Oh well, being hero isn't that bad either. Good for character development. Speaking of insane Lovecraftian stuff, @Madani is it possible we can get more info on demons and their homedimension?

[Raijinslayer]

@Raijinslayer Madou's "magic" works differently from normal magic. It simply adding "type of energy" to the desired spot, object, or subject. Kinetic energy, heat, electricity, forces, and such. It cannot directly interfere with other person's senses perception. Naturally, cause hallucinations and parnoia would be impossible. Basically, you cannot do anything that directly affect a person state of mind, like mind reading. However, causing headaches, blocking fregrance, lowering movement speed, all can be executed by lowering air pressure. To sum it out, think of a power/magic that instead, create the environment that would affect the target into the desired state. Like if you want someone to faint, sweep away the air.

@Madani

Okay, so I'll just focus in the wind aspect of his magic then, keep my Madou to being the sword and a wrist-device that would act more like a futuristic shield.

[Madani]

Speaking of insane Lovecraftian stuff, @Madani is it possible we can get more info on demons and their homedimension?

@Grey

Positive, however although it's not much, it's still part of story, so I will do so if @Masaki Haruna respond with a yes.

[Grey]

Whoops, my hand slipped.

ESP in this RP is close to magic in general meaning. ESP emits/possess their own [Genetic Pure Energy] (Lets call it [GPE] for now) which count as different form of usual [Pure Energy]. To put it in perspective, [Pure Energy] is neutral-type attack, meanwhile GPE is a specified-type, like elemental attack you can say. This what makes Esper can only possess one power, like either telekinesis or pyrokinesis. Esper use their [GPE] as their power-source and the convert it as form of their power. I had mentioned why Esper can't be a Mage or use a Madou before, that also because [GPE] are not a "blank" energy and cannot be converted as any other form than by the possessor (Esper's brain) itself. In case of Espers activating their power, their body is their power-source and their brain is the converter. Esper's brain will convert/change the [GPE] inside their body and change it to the "manifested" form which is their power. ---- Magic meanwhile require a Madou. Madou itself can be in various form and shapes. Either its a bracelet, headband, or even earring, your choice. Madou is mechanism, not the machine itself. Madou is like a magic wand. You hold it, chant a spell, and it will cast magic. Madou works similarly. For example, let's say you want to cast Magic A and B in order with a gun-type Madou: Magic A: Hold the gun, chant "By my will, may ye be enlighten the holy ring!", pull the trigger, and it will shoot light magic. Magic B: Hold the gun, chant "By my will, may ye be perished by the wrath!", pull the trigger, and it will shoot fire magic. As for what the Madou is and what Magic, is up to you. My character use bracelet Madou and its triggered when he swings his hand in certain motion. You must have different trigger for each magic, be it the chant or how you pull the trigger (slow, fast, rapidly, etc). Magic operated by Madou is based on the user's brainwave or any other medium that Madou use to detect the user's will (like pressure, force, breathing, movement, etc). What Madou do is to detect "what magic this person want to use and can use" and will execute it accordingly. If a person attempting to cast a magic that is too hard for him it will either go rampage or won't even executed at all.

@Madani

At current world, Pure Energy is everywhere just like air. This is caused by the magical calamity incident. As for why, unfortunately I can't explain it now, it's part of the plot in this story. But please note, that it doesn't close the possibility of someone creating an "anti-Pure Energy" room that prevent Pure Energy to enter/exist inside. ----------- Important to note that Esper can only use their [GPE] to manifest their power, they cannot use Pure Energy like a Madou used by Mage would. In normal case, Julia use her [GPE] to preserve her body on its "Prime State" which is around age of 25 judging from her outer appearance. But from there on, Julia Miller's power can go in two directions: 1. She constantly renew backup data of her current self (including memories and body) in her mind, either automatically or manually. By the the time her body is close to destruction (by enemy attack or whatever) she will execute the command "Create a new body and transfer my mind (consciousness) to it" and her power will use all of her remaining [GPE] to replicate her body. In the middle of this, her mind will be flying in the air until it goes to the new body. If this happen, Julia Miller will undoubtedly becomes younger (starting age of 7 to teenager) since her [GPE] will not be sufficient to fully reconstruct her body. She will suffer minor memory lost as well. 2. Part of her power is "Pure Energy Manipulation", but in case of this, she can only manipulate pure energy to reconstruct her body, nothing else. Why she can only manipulate that far is because that much is her mind can handle. Esper's genetic predetermined how far she can do, and it's decided by birth, cannot be changed. So, in case her body is close to destruction (like realllly close, say that she only have her head left) her mind will execute the command "Manipulate the surrounding Pure Energy, reconstruct my body, and transfer my mind to it". But the downside of this, even though Julia Miller is back to life, she's not exactly the same person she used to be. Body created by [GPE] posses genetic data which required to full reconstruction, but since she use Pure Energy for it, she can only create "A vessel that is like her", a mere copy you can say. The mind that is transferred to this new body will eventually dissolve itself to fit the new body, so, it's no longer the same Julia Miller. If you chose 1: Julia Miller can be truly die if she killed over and over again until she no longer posses enough [GPE] to reproduce her body. She won't have enough [GPE] to make anything if her physical age is less than 7 or so, it can't go any lower than that, or she can get really desperate and revert herself as a baby. If you choice 2: She can't die unless she wanted to. Unless being put into "Anti-Pure Energy" room, if any.

@Madani

The reason why [Pure Energy] cannot be converted into [GPE] is because [GPE] is Pure Energy with genetic data of its owner. Like a character-bind weapon in MMORPG that cannot be worn by other player. You simply cannot register your genetic data to a [Pure Energy], it won't work the same as natural [GPE] and an Esper won't able to use that energy because it's not coming from their body. It's genetic. There is a cheat in this case actually, convert [Pure Energy] into... a pill or something and take it. And like any typical medical experiment story would, will have a side-effect of whatever it is. On side note, I like your idea of having her as a glutton. *Imagining a scene where a loli helplessly want to eat all day long*

@Madani

This is why I wish to have all basic/fundamental/required information to be told in advance. My earlier post concerning it already buried in the OOC, so misconception is understandable.

Fundamental of ESP

ESP or Extrasensory perception, is the reception of information sensed by mind rather than physical senses like hearing, sight, smell, touch, and taste. Normal human also possess some kind of "extra sense" (or 6th sense, if you like to call it that) themselves but simply cannot utilize it. This where [Pure Energy] comes to play. People who were born with high aptitude/affinity with [Pure Energy] able to utilize their extrasensory perception. Their aptitude/affinity also helps them to develop some kind of "Pure Energy generator" within their body which produce [Genetic Pure Energy] (or GPE). Esper able to uses the GPE they produce to utilize their "extra sense", this what defines their power. Thus, ultimately Esper only possess one power. For reference, the ESP setting is partially based on the book by Joseph Banks Rhine, naturally.

I'll explain about Magic later. I'll just state the obvious for now.

Jackson DuCarthy

Demon Attractor: This doesn't count as "Skill/Ability". This already stated on his Bio. Well, I'm sure you just forgot to, since earlier this was power to manipulate demon. Divided Mind: This is, undoubtedly, a physiology state. Please refer to ESP explanation above, if you unsure why. To sum it up, this doesn't use [GPE], thus, does not qualify as ESP power in this setting. Just state this in his Background. Telekinesis: You have to downgrade this. Telekinesis is one of the widest subject to cover since anything under the Physical system (which practically anything excluding Environment system) count as subject of this power. To lift object with his mind is given, but to go as far to lit fire and split molecules is another story (refer to [Insight] below). Basically you cannot control anything beyond pre-existing objects such as pound of water, a table, building, etc. Meanwhile, as for distant and force your character can achieve will depends on his mind can handle. As for how his power works, is as follows; Jackson's GPE is what moves the objects. It goes through the medium of air to the desired object, coat it, and finally moves the object according to his will.

Insight

Most species of creatures only able to use 3-5% of their brain capacity. It's estimated that human can only uses around 10% of their brain capacity due to their computing limitation. Now, due to this limitation we cannot compute/process information of ever-changing molecules or particle, like the process of combustion. Yes we can see fire, but we cannot see the transformation of the oxygen. Without every information/data of it, we cannot reproduce/recreate that phenomena. Even if Jackson study the theory of it, it will not be sufficient to fully achieve full reproduction of the phenomena. Unless Jackson have somewhat break the limit of his brain capacity to over 10%, he can only do what he can imagine to full extend of detail. His mind can picture/simulate the phenomena of a floating table and execute it with his power, but he cannot do the same with producing lightning bolt as his brain cannot comprehend all phenomena surrounding it to the microscopic level and smaller.

@Madani

<Snipped quote by chukklehed> It matter of whatever the information is precise. We don't know to what extend our knowledge is right or even know if we got all information we require. If someone tries to execute something with unsure probability, high chance it will fail and will lead to tragedy. Naturally I won't mind if it's a robot or alien doing it, we won't have to explain anything. <Snipped quote by Raijinslayer> First, Magic in this RP setting is pretty simple (it will be problematic if it's not) so worry not. Second, the differences between normal human and Espers is that Espers produce [GPE]. [GPE] is not a substance and more like a body heat. So eating dead Espers won't do him harm. But Espers' brain works slightly differently compared to normal human, so I suppose it won't be odd if there is side effect of devouring Espers' brain.

@Madani

<Snipped quote by Madani> A week had passed since the day I said that. Since I had nothing to do, here is it:

Fundamental of Madou

There are two types of Madou, one used by Mages and another for domestic use. Madou, in a sense, is a device that convert [Pure Energy] into other form of energy. Madou consisted of three inner-devices, these are [Pure Energy Bank] (PEB), [Pure Energy Converter] (PEC), and [Pure Energy Absorber] (PEA). There are two types of [PEB], one is called [Internal Pure Energy Bank] (IPEB) and [External Pure Energy Bank] (EPEB). [IPEB] are [PEB] that equipped directly into the Madou whilst [EPEB] are not, which is similar to power-bank for cellphone. To put it in perspective, [IPEB] are primary memory (RAM) and [EPEB] are secondary memory (HDD) for computer. [EPEB] also has [PEA] on it to refill energy similar to a Madou but without a [PEC]. [PEA] work as a brake or stopping mechanism. When told so, it will re-convert and dissolve the produced magic or energy back into [Pure Energy]. In case of the Madou is running out of energy, [PEA] will passively refill the [PEB] by absorbing nearby [Pure Energy] in the air. [PEC] are the mechanism that produce magic or energy. [PEC] on domenstic-use Madou is preset and only able to convert [Pure Energy] into determined energy such as wind force, electricity, fire, etc. Meanwhile, mage-use Madou will convert [Pure Energy] into form of Magic. Every action of mage-use Madou are controlled by the user's will and mental state. Madou detect this through the user brainwave. The user's brainwave pattern and data are registered in advance upon equipping, making other people unable to use it. If the user are mentally weak, the less powerful/complex magic can be produced as the user's mind will be the core of the magic mechanism. Madou shapes and size varies. Old types tent to be bigger, akin to generations of computer. As time advance, smaller and stronger Madou are produced. Trivia: The name Madou comes from the Japanese word 魔導 which consist of the word [Ma (Magic)] and [Shirube (Guide or Guidance)]. This actually meant as placeholder until we (Me, and Haruna) come out with better name, but eventually used as official name instead. Incidentally, same happens with the term [Pure Energy] as it also start as a placeholder.

Man, I'm starting to forget what else to say about Madou. Any question?

@Madani

Also that ESP/GPE thing makes me wonder how the hell Arata's power even works, but that's a story for another day.

[Madani]

*Checking whatever there is any inconsistency in all my statements* If any please tell me...

[Grey]

Hmm... Well, I can't see anything that strictly says that ESPers can't use magic. I get the Madou uses regular Pure Energy, and ESP uses Genetic Pure Energy, but can't an ESPer just not use their GPE and use the PE in the air as a power source for their Madou?

[chukklehed]

the idea I think, is that a Magus using Madou channels the pure energy in their body through their Madou, whereas the Pure Energy in an Esper's body is GPE, which would be like putting diesel in a petrol engine.

[Grey]

There are two types of [PEB], one is called [Internal Pure Energy Bank] (IPEB) and [External Pure Energy Bank] (EPEB). [IPEB] are [PEB] that equipped directly into the Madou whilst [EPEB] are not, which is similar to power-bank for cellphone. [EPEB] also has [PEA] on it to refill energy similar to a Madou but without a [PEC]. [PEA] work as a brake or stopping mechanism. When told so, it will re-convert and dissolve the produced magic or energy back into [Pure Energy]. In case of the Madou is running out of energy, [PEA] will passively refill the [PEB] by absorbing nearby [Pure Energy] in the air.

This bit makes me think differently though. Since an ESPer could just slap a pack into their Madou and go wild.

Madou detect this through the user brainwave. The user's brainwave pattern and data are registered in advance upon equipping, making other people unable to use it. If the user are mentally weak, the less powerful/complex magic can be produced as the user's mind will be the core of the magic mechanism.

Though I guess with this little bit, you could say that it's incompatible with ESPers, but ESPers should be really mentally strong given the basis of their ability is mental and the registration to brainwave shouldn't do anything weird, since it seems that Madou has nothing registered to it before someone first equips it.

[Madani]

In prior of executing a magic with a Madou, the Madou will coat/surround the user with [Pure Energy]. In order, it goes like this: Mage activate Madou -> Trigger Magic to execute -> Madou coats/surround the user with [Pure Energy] -> Magic is executed. The third step is called channeling, in order to have the Magic to fully be under control of its user, the mage's body will have to remember the energy flowing and control it as if it's their own. It's like having an extra limb. This also why using magic wearing the user out. If this is a gun, it's like moving the bullet from magazine into the barrel before being shot. As stated earlier, Esper emits [GPE] like a body heat. This why using Madou will harm them as two different energies will be mixed together right above their skin. Theoretically Esper are able to use Madou, but only if that Madou is designed for them. ----------------------- Add: Now that I think about it, all my attention and concern about the whole Madou and ESP concept is instead making this RP non-user friendly. I suppose inconsistency is nice once a while, letting more creative freedom runs wild.

[Grey]

Nah, you're fine Madani. Universe rules exist for a reason.

...How did I not think of this before? If the HWMDs are the Level 5s of this world, then we all need cool code names!

[chukklehed]

why don't you make it like Index, where Espers CAN use magic, but it causes them bodily harm. That ties in with your conflicting energy thing anyway.