[OOC] Whispers in the dark (WH40K Chaos space marine RP)

[SillyGoy]

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[SimplyJohn]

[SillyGoy]

Let's do it.

[agentmanatee]

Um @SimplyJohn when did you have 46,000 troops? Also I believe I did say we were all starting on the battle barge... so I'm just a little confused

[agentmanatee]

Cause that's a full sized Warband... which would make you a warlord... not a simple raptor champion. The main reason I didn't allow anything like that is largely because it makes you FAR more powerful than Arabar from the get go... it kinda raises the question of why your following him rather than the other way around.
The main reason I didn't want anything like that is for characters to grow... and to make things more desperate. After all, if Crixus has access and leadership of a 46,000 strong army why would we need to steal from the night lords? I understand the wish to be powerful but... we are kinda suppose to be just beginning a pilgrimage of the previously unfaithful. 46,000 troops kinda... well ruins the whole plot... which is pretty flexible if I do say so myself with plenty of room for events you guys suggest. But as I have said, 46,000 troops makes Arabar, and his flock completely obsolete... also he has told no one the name of the new warband, including his inner circle (you guys) and was gonna reveal it after the barge was secured and on its way to the eye

[Warbozz]

My hatred for the false emperor burns strong! Hoping to contribute with good CS if you´ll accept another lost traitor besides you.

[SillyGoy]

Lucoryphus had enough trouble handling 20 Raptors, but Crixus commands that and tens of thousands of others?

Shoulda caught the whiff of a Mary Sue at the enslaved Eldar harlequin.

@Warbozz

We have room, brother. I hope it'll be another impious Night Lord like Sorthraal over here.

[agentmanatee]

@Warbozz sure, we always have room.

BTW @SillyGoyno insults here, you can criticize but don't be a dick about it. And Mary sue is a pretty serious insult. The pet is fine, lots of Slaanesh marines have em

[SillyGoy]

Right, sorry. Just a little irritated, since this is one of the very few WH40k RP's to take off in this site. I'd like to keep it moving forward and fluidly.

[Warbozz]

Name: Lentus Caestus

Age: Not known, participated in the heresy.

Appearance:

Without armor Lentus is an pale, muscular thing with dark eyes. Edges of his black carapace are usually bloody as his body was rejecting his space marine operations. Before his heresy this was considered an weakness and he was often shunned because of this. After heresy his surgery wounds are in eternal state of bleeding slightly and he has been free to take his sword to anyone who could imply this makes him less of an marine.

Marine type: Tactical marine/ Marine Sergeant

Devotion: Chaos undivided, but he hears the brass bells tolling...

Bio: Once there was an time when Lentus Caestus was an pious one, he held unto reason of doubt even as he eagerly waged war against his brothers among the stars during the great heresy. Afterall were Night Lords not children of Konrad? Where he led, Lentus followed. After Konrads passing Lentus fell into doubt again, and then the whispering began. First his scarred mind took solace in the infernal torment of whispers, but that resolve was short lived for the whispering was relentless. Lentus continued to kill and maim as his legion commanded even while whispers made him howl like an mad beast, was this emperors punishment of his heresy? Or simply torments of horrors beyond the warp? In these troubled times he met the one called "Arabar." His words brought peace to Lentus, and promise of answers was the harbinger of another betrayal, when Lentus agreed to leave his legion in service to this enigmatic marine preacher. While Lentus is undeniably traitor of many accounts, this delusional fool still harbors fantasies of salvation, such petty mortal imaginings...

Personality: Obedient to orders of those he considers superior. Mad. Ridden with guilt and his pathetic inability to stop his further descent into oblivion of heresy. Battle crazy.

Personal skills: Long honed skills in swordsmanship and pressing battlefield advantage for victory. Good shot. His abilities in leading his own squad have detoriated considerably but still present.

Gear:
Tainted powersword.
Corrupted pre-heresy power armor that has for unknown reasons molded to an look of a more modern model.
Storm bolter. (Lentus is looking to change this one as the still partly holy weapon is rejecting full commitment to ruinous powers,
for now.)
Fragmentation grenades "blessed" by dark entities.

[Warbozz]

What you think? feel free to critique and suggest improvements.

[agentmanatee]

Looks great, move him to the characters page and make your first post once your ready

[SimplyJohn]

Um @SimplyJohn when did you have 46,000 troops? Also I believe I did say we were all starting on the battle barge... so I'm just a little confused

@agentmanatee

Crixus commands fourth two Raptors (six commanders and thirty six raiders), two hundred and sixteen Marines (subservient to the Raptors in the clan) and the rest of his force is made up of cultists and traitors (six traitor officers with six traitor non-com officers each commanding six traitor guardsmen and thirty six cultists, serfs and support personnel) who couldn't be relied on to fight a true war, even if they're useful for pillaging undefended colony worlds.

The reason he keeps his force so large is as homage to Slaanesh, whose 'sacred' number is six, and so he ensures his force is kept at 6⁶ (or 46,656) troops in total.

What you think? feel free to critique and suggest improvements.

@Warbozz

You might want to switch the stormbolter for a combi-bolter as those were the equivalent weapons used by the pre-Heresy marines, unless he acquired the stormbolter sometime after the Heresy that is.

[SimplyJohn]

My idea for Crixus is that he'll be accompanying the party either by himself or with a small retinue, rather than bringing his full force with him.

I was going to be covering that in the next post, where he'd be giving orders to his shipmaster, and had hinted at the reasons for following Arabar in my first post when he referred to a debt needing to be paid.

The two have some sort of history which may not necessarily be entirely friendly, and Arabar will have to be careful as to exactly what he orders Crixus to do for him so as not to anger the champion.

[agentmanatee]

@SimplyJohnNo I'm not asking you to give a reason why, I'm saying your a warlord, you have a warband. That is not allowed, that is not a part of this story. At the start no one can be more powerful than Arabar, and by that I mean if you are in charge of anything more than a couple of marines or a dozen or so cultists you aren't really in a position to follow anyone are you? I'm sorry John but no armies, no warbands, I specifically stated no Warlords. And while you may look and act the part of a raptor but you have 46,000 troops, your chaos marines alone double the size of Arabar's flock.

This isn't me trying to make my character a godmode one, the story REVOLVES around the journey of initially no more than 100 former Night lords chaos space marines and their fall to service of the gods (or ability to resist temptation) and when one of those 100 marines is not with the rest AND controls a huge warband? I'm sorry but that's a no go

This is not the story of a black crusade or other holy war, this is a story of struggle, of a select few traitors surviving and fighting against impossible odds, of the tension between traitors and their reluctance to trust.

So, I have to bring down the hammer. You have two choices john, and I'm sorry if you hate me for thus, one:No cultists, no army, no 200 marines no 42 raptors. You cut them out, and edit your posts to put you on the ship with us, on the same level as every other player in the RP, rather than above and away from them
or two:If you refuse option 1 I have to boot you from the RP. The others understand the story I'm weaving and they embrace it, they each become their own thread in my story, but keeping their own personal stories flowing with and through it. You are currently going against the threads, trying to weave your own story against mine. And you can either correct the thread, or I can cut it.

Badically, my big weaving comparison boils down to this
Take the place you are meant to alongside the others, and have some fun

Or I will be forced to cut you from the story

[agentmanatee]

Ignore

[agentmanatee]

My idea for Crixus is that he'll be accompanying the party either by himself or with a small retinue, rather than bringing his full force with him.

I was going to be covering that in the next post, where he'd be giving orders to his shipmaster, and had hinted at the reasons for following Arabar in my first post when he referred to a debt needing to be paid.

The two have some sort of history which may not necessarily be entirely friendly, and Arabar will have to be careful as to exactly what he orders Crixus to do for him so as not to anger the champion.

@SimplyJohn

Wait... your plan was to basically threaten Arabar with your forces? No, simply no. It takes away any power Arabar has, and the entire RP is based around power. If Arabar can't actually control Crixus what's to stop you from razing important cities or killing marines in the black hand you don't like? Nothing because you could simply crush Arabar and the blossoming black hand

[SimplyJohn]

My next post was going to be Crixus ordering his shipmaster to take the bulk of his forces off on another crusade while he himself heads off to meet up with Arabar.

The threat would only be implied, as no doubt Arabar would be aware of Crixus's military might, but at the same time Crixus would be subservient towards Arabar due to his previous debt to the Apostle. The only time Crixus would make mention of it would be if Arabar began to make unreasonable demands of him, which is unlikely to happen.

The plan was to show Arabar's power came not from obvious strength or force of arms but in the far more subtle political and mental games he plays with his compatriots. His hold over Crixus would simply be one of the correct words used at the right time to bend a powerful ally to his cause.

[Warbozz]

Still, bringing "gamechangers" like that along should be always consulted with GM first.

[agentmanatee]

It's not just the power @SimplyJohn. We lose any tension. Your character is placed on par with Arabar and even with subtle manipulation what's to stop you from murdering a night lord who looks at you funny? Plus, where's the danger? What's the point of Arabar manipulating any of the other Night lords? Why not JUST control Crixus? It gives Arabar an army so why bother with the other night lords at all? No army John, end of discussion, no if's ands or buts. I'm sorry but if you want to control a warband from the get go you should make your own RP, but this one? This RP is of my design, and Crixus's army has no place in it