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[OOC] This, That, and The Other Thing ~ PopeAlessandros x Jiskastya Page 10

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Hidden 12 yrs ago Post by Jiskastya
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Thank you for explaining yourself. I would be very cool with this idea if we had started with energy and matter as our opposites. But our opposites are positive and negative, and we are weaving everything into being from a combination of those two things. I don't think matter would be purely positive energy, while space would be purely negative energy. Just like all of the things have been a weaving of the two. This is also a case where I don't see energy and matter as opposites. Matter and space are the opposites, but if we are trying to relate it to energy as well we suddenly have a triumvirate, which throws off the balance we have established thus far.

I don't have a problem with grandiose. I do agree that matter and space are going to be a massive change from that which they have always known. But I'd like to know what you think of what I've said.
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When I think of "Space" I think of the space around atoms, and since everything has this, I saw this, and I may be completely off my rocker at this point, not sure, as a way to represent that. Atom = Matter, Space = Area around Matter, but then again, I may be losing my brains. I'm not a science person, but I thought this would be neat.

Oh, and energy and matter aren't opposites, I don't know if I said that, but if I did, that was a slip-up.

*Doesn't wanna try and figure* I'll just redo it. . . It don't work for you, I dun' wanna spend a month trying to figure out how to make it work, I'll just beat up my post until it looks better.
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Thanks. I appreciate it. I'm happy to make it different from what has been done for the others that have been created so far (I think I've said that already...) I just don't comprehend well enough what you are getting at this time. :)
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*Runs off to see how much needs changing*
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*Scribbles* *Scribbles* *Scribbles* There. Hopefully that makes more sense, and I changed things around, and. . Yeah. Let me know what you think :P
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Hey, Pope. Sorry I'm pathetic at replying. I promise I'm not dissatisfied with anything, I just lack the time and internet access to actually reply. I think I've told you such would be the case, but I wanted to let you know again, especially since the last post was one with which I disagreed.

Hopefully I'll be able to get you something... soon. If not, by the end of August all this traveling nonsense will be over, and I can resume a normal posting speed. Hopefully you will still be interested in our story at that point.
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No problem. I have a partner that replies once a month, if I'm lucky :P You're fine, don't worry, I never lose interest when my partner is good and the story is moving in the right way for my senses, which ours is :P Oh, and if you don't have a time for replies, but can get on :P could you tell me if the changes work for you, so I know if I have to do any more editing :P
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Yay! Service!

I don't exactly get why the energy is so important, but that is a tiny tidbit. I'm happy.
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*Shrugs* I just figured such a radical change may require them to be closer to the source of their power. . . . .You can have Aysus drag Tahaan away if you don't agree :P
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Oh, I have no problem with the idea that this will take far more power than anything with which they have dealt before. That makes perfect sense. I just dont quite understand how there could be a single, specific source of energy or threads, I guess. They are created, but they are kind of like mosquitoes. Theyve always been there, they'll always be there, and they come from everywhere, all at once, all the time.
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I recall mentioning a few times that they had a source. . . . .
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Really? I guess this is another moment where my imperfect and rather selective recall comes into play...

Could we compromise at a middle point? Instead having one single point from which all energy and threads enter the universe, could we have sources that are scattered across the universe at random? As an infinite space, there would be an infinite number, but it isn't as though they are close to each other, either.
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Hmmmm. . . . .

I have only one problem with that, and it has to do with the original concept of the source being imbalanced, and through us, trying to gain balance. I could go for two sources, one negative, one positive, however that would mean that the closer we are to one or the other, the stronger said energy would become and the nature of the threads would be off. . .To me at least. The concepts of one source. . . . .Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........................

How about this, there IS only once source, but as you put it, many places to access it. . .Like, many places throughout the universe where it. . Manifests? Is that the right word? Which would grant them better access to the energy they need, but would stick with the eternal struggle idea of the two opposing forces in constant chaos, but like you want, give the thread many different points to enter "Our reality".

What cha think?
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That sounds wonderful to me. My main problem was the fact that there were to be an infinite number of threads entering the universe constantly from a single point. My brain couldn't quite wrap around that. Having a single source of energy and threads works for me, so long as it releases at an infinite number of points.

So long as we are clarifying things, let me make a few statements, and see if you see them as true. The source releases both threads and energy, and the source releases both positive and negative energy. Threads are a type of energy, but are a condensed form of either positive or negative energy that allows Tahaan and Aysus to manipulate it easier. The things that are made are made by a weaving of both positive and negative threads. They are determined by which type of thread is dominant in the weaving pattern, and the pattern in which they are woven, as well.
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Hmmm. . . Let's see if I can pose this the way I see it. . .

The source releases threads, which are energy, each thread made up of both positive and negative energy, condensed that way for Tahaan and Aysus to manipulate easier. The things are made by weaving with the threads, comprised of both types of energy, and the way they are weaved will lead the result to either be mostly positive or mostly negative, the remaining bits of thread left over what is to be used to create the balance of the original creation. The threads left over will almost never be pure negative, or pure positive, so that each creation will be made of both, to help find that stability the source seeks, however every creation will be more one than the other.

So, other than a few minor bits, we mostly agree, I think :P What I have up there is just how my head wraps about it.

Oh, and, glad the multi-points theory works for you :P
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Ahhh.... Now I get a lot more what you meant by the "leftover" threads. Sure. I'm comfortable going with that.

I'll try and get you a reply today, assuming I don't wind up being a lazy-butt instead. If I do, I will certainly have one for you before this Friday.
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Again, glad it works for you, I hope I'm not being push :P And Yay!
Hidden 12 yrs ago Post by Jiskastya
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There we go!

I chose to end my post where I did for two reasons. One, I figured the struggle would do them good, and was necessary to accurately show the difficulty of what they were doing. Two, I wanted to give you the chance to actually complete the weaving of matter and space, because you seem to have an idea for where you want it to go, and I'd just be making up some lovely nonsense that probably wouldn't sound as good.
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So, what happens next? Are there more things we wish to do with the void space, or are we moving towards the first planet?
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I always imagined them making things, messing up, then finally deciding they need a stable place to put their "things" :P Unless you wanna just gloss right over that. . .*Sad face*
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