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ravenDivinity said
Weeell... I don't particularly appreciate having a villain that's overpowered And being the only 'villain' doesn't particularly excuse it. He needs to be assailable by one person; if he can only be killed by multiple people, it's a little overpowered. Furthermore, this role-play's only getting started. We have to vouch for future characters with different alignments, different ethics, not just 'good' and 'evil'. The world isn't black and white, and I highly doubt Starry's going to be the only antagonistically inclined character in the story.


that's true. I agree.

Lightning should be able to kill, not threee lightnings.

and are there dragons and other mythical creatures? I would think there would be, because it's all Relic and magically enchanced items and stuff.
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Lets not try for any "good and evil" archetypes here, like raven said it's not black and white. I think your character(s) should have a personality beyond "I am a villain, so I must do this."No, it doesn't. No one is limited in one they can do by what you're defining as a villain.


Well starry isnt that bad
guess i meant that if you're specifically joining the Vagabond, that that is what he is doing. I DO have a bigger backround set up for him, but right now he's just a strange man who threatens the evoker world.
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No Bite and All Bark said
Thats fairI just built him to be a main villian of sorts, not jsut an enemy, so i didnt want him to be killed easily. That being said, his power isnt that overpowered. He does have a limted range and i think you missed the whole discussion on what his weakness is


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The only reason Starrys is so powerfull is that i wanted you guys to team up to fight him.


I didn't miss the discussion, I read every single character sheet before I submitted my own. I know his weakness. Don't assume what you don't know.

And ooooooooh honey, 'main villain', there are no mains. No main hero, no main villain. It's all a mixture of different beliefs and mixed feelings among the crowds. There's probably going to be a villain that doesn't take the Church's side. There's probably going to be a villain that doesn't take either side. There're probably going to be heroes without alignments and alliances. And the biggest hard-hitter is that they're all equally dangerous and equally powerful. None of them are to be killed easily.

Edit: The main point is I'm trying to dissuade us from two-dimensional villains. Compare the Starry Vagabond to a modern-day homophobic pastor. Perhaps he has something good about him as far as family goes and ethics go, but maybe he's incorrect about Evokers and is just brainwashed by the Church's propaganda.
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WilsonTurner said
that's true. I agree.

Lightning should be able to kill, not threee lightnings.

and are there dragons and other mythical creatures? I would think there would be, because it's all Relic and magically enchanced items and stuff.


We'll see.
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I didn't miss the discussion, I read every single character sheet before I submitted my own. I know his weakness. Don't assume what you don't know.


Let's avoid being abrasive. Especially considering he prefaced his assumption with " i think".
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None of them are to be killed easily.


But you just complained about him needing to be killed by more then one person...
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But you just complained about him needing to be killed by more then one person...


She didn't say it would take more than one person, just that it wouldn't be easy.
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But you just complained about him needing to be killed by more then one person...

I didn't say being killed easily meant being killable in a one-on-one situation. I'm saying in any combat situation, their abilities enable them to at least go down fighting.
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Weeell... I don't particularly appreciate having a villain that's overpowered And being the only 'villain' doesn't particularly excuse it. He needs to be assailable by one person; if he can only be killed by multiple people, it's a little overpowered. Furthermore, this role-play's only getting started. We have to vouch for future characters with different alignments, different ethics, not just 'good' and 'evil'. The world isn't black and white, and I highly doubt Starry's going to be the only antagonistically inclined character in the story.

Sorry, I didn't really mean it like that. It's just that he seems to have taken up the role of antachonist, which doesn't mean that he doesn't have a good reason to kill other evokers or even that he's "evil". I'm really against such stereotypes when writing so I'm truly sorry if you interpret it that way. I just was in a bit of a hurry so I phrased it in a sloppy way.
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She didn't say it would take more than one person, just that it wouldn't be easy.


I just want to be clear
I didnt make an overpowered, 2 dimensional charactor who is going to kill everyone

I tried to make a villain who you need to learn more about. One who needs teamwork to be defeated, rather then brute force. I have a more in-depth backround but i want the characters to steadily learn, not just tell you

AlidaMaria said
Sorry, I didn't really mean it like that. It's just that he has taken up the role of antachonist, not meaning that he doesn't have a good reason to kill other evokers. I just was in a bit of a hurry so I phrased it a bit sloppy.


Well he does sort've have a reasson, i jsut want you guys to figure it out
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That's good work, All Bark, but your character doesn't have quite the ability diversity to need team work. If you're not careful Itani or Myth could take you out by themselves, that's just off of the top of my head.
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I just want to be clearI didnt make an overpowered, 2 dimensional charactor who is going to kill everyone

I tried to make a villain who you need to learn more about. One who needs teamwork to be defeated, rather then brute force. I have a more in-depth backround but i want to steadily learn, not just tell you

I'm not asserting that you did, I'm trying to keep us from resorting to that.

But it's hard for teamwork to be a requirement when some of the other Evokers have abilities that perfectly counter and rival the Starry Vagabond's.
Edit: Okay wow, Guilty Spark got it before I did. I mean, Altim can essentially mess with your blood and the air in your lungs.
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That's good work, All Bark, but your character doesn't have quite the ability diversity to need team work. If you're not careful Itani or Myth could take you out by themselves, that's just off of the top of my head.

ravenDivinity said
I'm not asserting that you did, I'm trying to keep us from resorting to that.But it's hard for teamwork to be a requirement when some of the other Evokers have abilities that perfectly counter and rival the Starry Vagabond's.


Well i was also trying to keep him from being so overpowered that no one could kill him.
And see, were already argueing about if his [i]current[/] poers are to much. We're allready argueing about him as he is, if i made him stronger people would just hate me
i'm trying to make friends here
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Alright guys, to forestall this from escalating lets not talk about what our characters are meant to be in the OOC. Let us find out in the IC.

"The delicate character arc you planned out may be absolutely destroyed, but that's life right?"
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Alright guys, to forestall this from escalating lets not talk about what our characters are meant to be in the OOC. Let us find out in the IC."The delicate character arc you planned out may be absolutely destroyed, but that's life right?"


Let's just keep it at that then
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Alright guys, to forestall this from escalating lets not talk about what our characters are meant to be in the OOC. Let us find out in the IC."The delicate character arc you planned out may be absolutely destroyed, but that's life right?"


AlidaMaria said
When we were discussing his weaknesses, most characters only had minor powers if I remember it correctly. So back then it'd have been best to attack as a group. I guess if you're determined to take him down, it still is. Please let's be friendly guys...


I'm fine with being flexible, i just wanted to make an interesting villain that isn't taken down like he wasn't significant
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Guys, I need a hug.
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Guys, I need a hug.


What happened?

@Sep, accepted. Sounds a little young though.
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What happened chuckle? ó.ò

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Does something need to have happened? I just wanted a hug. Well, I did leave all my chargers at work.
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