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thewizardguy said
My problems are beyond this fight, they are the fact that his powers have not been explained whatsoever, and don't seem to make any sense. The ones that are explained seem to be masively overpowered, but hey, I control Bob, I can't complain. Except for the fact that Bob doesn't ATTACK PEOPLE. And even Bob doesn't have the power to rewrite history, such as this dagger supposedly can do.


That didn't answer my question, unfortunately. I will be sure to address all your concerns after mine are addressed.
thewizardguy said
Actually, this hasn't been properly explained that I have seen. Stein's trump card is his intelligence, that's his greatest capability, but that's not a power at all. It's simply what he relies on to win battles. Does that mean it'll rewind time to before he began thinking, and kill Stein before he's born? because that would just be plain silly.


This goes beyond the question of whether or not Gilgamesh is dead in character. Are you willing to reach a compromise at all, to allow both characters to live, regardless of what's happening to them in character?

no. you're defending something blatantly overpowered and refusing to provide an adequate explanation. i think all things aside it's limitations deserve to be put onto the thread to prevent further explanations of why a character has something that can instantly kill almost anyone at the slightest hint of danger to his life


Hmmmmm I'll pass until the fights over. When it is, I'll be happy to do so. Do you have any problem with that?

Furthermore, I am defending nothing. By all means, post what you think is defensive that I've said. Words are wind, quotes are iron.
Tyki said
no no, i said post it's limitations out here on the thread for all to see... go on... we're waiting


Sure, I'll screen cap our PMs together when the fight is over. After all, revealing someones weaknesses wouldn't be very neutral of me, right?
thewizardguy said
Well, for one, the fact that Darkseid isn't in this roleplay ^^And like I stated, God-Killer Resonance isn't a charged attack, it's an instant boost, and, as I clariefied in the IC, the entire attack could be carried out in less than 3 seconds, less if he fires the attack at range instead of moving in close, easily within the amount of time it takes for the human brain to die of oxygen starvation. In fact, that's in the IC post, as one of the mistakes you had made. Also, I was quite nice in how I didn't point out just how much you were meta-gaming when suddenly you magically knew how Stein's soular attacks worked, or when you knew about him having replaced his heart, neither of which your character should have known unless he also has an item that gives him omniscience.Furthermore, allow me to quote the following:The God-Killer Resonance cannot be 'fired'. It is a mere boost. As such, had it targeted the God-Killer Resonance, it would have flown at Stein right then, and tried to kill him the moment before he even activated it. However, what you're blocking is an attack, as you quite specifically mention. You're stating, specifically, that it will strike before he strikes, at which point his defense was already in place.


I take it you won't be compromising then?
Tyki said
actually i've been following the disscusion rather heatedly, laughing at the fact that everyone seems dead set on defending something that is blatantly overpowered so i think that putting it's limitations out here on the thread right now would be a wonderful thing personallyhowever, you just said it would activate on one of steins basic attacks that could become a trump card, and then you said it would activate on the mere fact that stein was building power which actually isn't an attack. so if you could just clarify things on exactly, in detail, a trump card is that would be wondorous


I await your PM happily~
supertinyking said
.....Can we get on with the fight? Please? I posted an hour ago, and I am ready for this epic clash. The monster of monsters, v.s the king of kings. A battle of the ages.


As I said, I'm waiting on whether Wizard will be willing to go with my compromise. If not, then you two ought to fight freely. Until then, I think it's best we wait on that particular fight.
Tyki said
i've been following along and basically, from what i've gathered, with this dagger gilgamesh cannot be killed because if there were any danger to him then the dagger would activate, killing the attacker within a second or two depending on their size (as long as they required a heart and or half their body to live) plus the fact that the dagger is capable of rewriting reality... which is overpowered as all hell... and i've literally just seen nearly everyone and their dog defending a char that is blatantly over powered, saying that the dagger only activates on "trump cards" which is whatever would count as a danger to his life.... which makes him immortal.... which is overpowered....


Since you don't seem to be following the debate nor do you seem to know how Fragarch works, I won't be able to explain it to you on here.

However, if you are truly interested in its limitations, feel free to PM me if you're that intrigued. I will be perfectly fine in explaining them all to you, after this situation is resolved, naturally. Lack of information can be a real killer, after all.

Also Quote stop beating up Virgillia, and don't pick on the Goats. They get it rough enough ;w;
Tyki said
so basically with this dagger gilgamesh can not be killed? am i not the only one that sees how op this is?


Reread my post on its numerous limitations.

I've tried to be a neutral and diplomatic party in this, as there's no reason here for either OC to die, and I don't want either OC to die.
thewizardguy said
Actually, I really really do. Also, whether or not the dagger hits Stein is irrelevant to whether Gil is dead. Stein can completely ignore pain and most wounds. Even if the dagger completely cleaved him in half, which I find unlikely, simply with a working brain he would have continued the attack, which would take less than 2 seconds to execute. The heart thing was a gamble, the point was to kill him regardless of whether or not Stein died.


Alright, so assuming that you're unwilling to compromise?
supertinyking said
Trust me, darkside can kill him and have time to spare when it concerns saving stine.


That has nothing to do with me, since that's Laxs battle, so good luck you two.
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