darkwolf687

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Duck, you were telling me this was a civilian station and it seems to be becoming more military by the minute. I expected maybe a small group of security guards with side arms, not an entire force with an armoury to call on with the weaponry that has been suggested to be perfect for destroying me

Also, have you invalidated the need for power, because without power how do you propose to operate the systems which require power to close the blast doors?

Furthermore, on the subject of shutting off the power, you speak as though there is no way to split units up to perform different tasks, and that everything must be done one at a time

Lastly, if it took you under an hour to detect us (Yeah, this is easily possible in a few seconds, I get that even though the sensors in the airlocks couldn't detect me, others might), contact the BCU, get them dispatched, have them arrive, have them give orders and dispatch a team to the drone bay, have all civilians moved to habitation and set the security forces racing to the armoury, how come I can't move across a station and release parasites into habitation and send some to the generators or such in a similar period of time?

Anyway, this is distracting from the main point if the discussion, since you blew up the station; why did not one infected person have even the faintest idea of the locations of any of the planets...

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Asta, my original statement contained no mention of coordinates, duck started that in his insistence that his people only have one type of map, a super complicated mess that nobody bothers to learn.

As such, I proposed that if the people lack maps in the most simple form (As I said before, you can point out the approximate location of important places IE: Capital, hometown, etc on a map) then they would likely move to the alternative of memorising the coordinates of important locations.

And quite simply, I used this method because I was certain it would have a higher chance of success; ducks computers probably would have had this stashed away behind several hundred encryptions if I tried to access his computers (Not necessarily unfounded, I would be ill at ease with the idea of leaving such information at risk of possible capture). But apparently, ducks space faring citizens have decided that apathy to map reading skills is the best position to hold when going on ventures to an outpost in space...

Edit: Just so everyone knows, after me and duck reconciled the uber assault of the original boarding and went with a less... Insane one... Me and duck agreed that if I took the station I would not attempt to attack/invade/destroy several systems (Most important among them being Sol and Alas Prime) so I didn't mess up keyguys and his plot before they got to develop it. Putting this here now so everyone can hold me to account if I renege on this before Duck/Keys plotline is completed or otherwise ended.

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duck55223 said
They know the names of there home and they do care, they just dont know the actual coordinates.

I am not asking for coordinates though. I don't know where coordinates came from, knowing the visual location on a picture of the galaxy is enough... Something I am surprised none of the civilians knew.

Also, in such an instance, wouldn't the layman memorise the coordinates and just ignore the maps?

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WilsonTurner said
Soldiers run out, see their friends and the people they're supposed to protect, and be like "What?"With your kind of logic, a zombie apocalypse would never work because people would take a shotgun to someone's face rather than try and save them. But people are rarely that smart, even with smart people. 'Course, they're magical, so I suppose they know everything, right? Who cares about the story of the BCU escaping the station with their own lives, after the station falling to an unknown parasite. It's a game, the point is to be able to translate anything instantly and win all the battles, after all. Wait... that's not quite right...

I think that when they were set upon, the security forces would certainly fight back and likely effectively once they realised what was going on (morale would be effected in sustained combat, but then he blew up the station anyway so that doesn't matter), but it would likely be a scenario where the L'Er got a surprise first strike on them as you say, I doubt they just ran out and pew pewed civilians on sight

But then, he blew up the entire station anyway, so whether then security succeeded or not is irrelevant.

What isn't irrelevant is whether the people of the EU don't care where they and their families are in the universe, nor care where anything about their nation, even the capital, is situated.

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duck55223 said
Except its been at most a hour since the quarantine order was issued, you said it takes a few hours for a worm to mutate one.

Just a question, have you read what I wrote at all? I never said the worn mutated a host, nor did I mention worms in the message above yours at all.

Also, I'm still controlling your people, and they haven't lost the ability to use their appendages, just so you know that not having mutated doesn't render them a non threat...

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duck55223 said
What are a few unarmered civilians going to do against soldiers with weapons and armor?

Surprisingly, when taking another force which is certainly inferior forces (Unless there were more security guards than people, for some reason) and taking them on by surprise, possibly accompanied by spore forms (Possibly with a pure form), they could potentially do a fair amount of damage...

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duck55223 said
Again the navigational maps are complex and hard to learn and master, most people dont bother. They will know the names of there homes, but not there location, as knowing the coordinates without it seeming confusing and overwhelming would require knowledge of those maps.

... You know that taking an image of the galaxy and marking out the locations of the systems on that makes it a map of controlled systems, right? So nobody ever did this? Nobody ever made an image of even an arm of the galaxy and drew a line off a star which simply said "Hey, this star contains *name*, you are here"

Modern day scientists have marked out Earths general location on maps of the galaxy. In the far future of an advanced alien species where they run an interstellar empire, not a single person ever thought of this simple idea...

In your fairly liberal society, no one did this or anything similar to inform the masses...

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So the colonials do not care where they are ruled from. Fair enough, maybe that's true... But they don't know where their home is? Where their parents were/are? Where other relatives were/are?

Not one single person knows the location of their homeworld in the galaxy.

And I contend that you don't have to be a patriot to know the location of your capital city...

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Your method of handling it was to state "Keyguy approved this" so yes, you opened it up so I have to discuss it with keyguy as well, so here we are.

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Duck, are you really telling me no one in that knowledge pool even knew the location of their homeworld, or capital world? That not a single person was at all interested in the location of their homeworld?
And the navigation charts are extremely complex? That has no bearing on knowing the position of your homeworld in the stars, did nobody think "If I make a simplified version of this map, I can make a killing from the commoner"?
Not a single school, parent or relative ever saw fit to teach a child about the position of their planets? Not even out of national pride?

Lets just focus on the civilians here and ignore possible military infections, no civilian on the station even took an interest in the location of his home...