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And either way I'll get to fight the racist elves as I planned? There is a god! Death to the Nazi's... I mean, death to the Thalmor!

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Don't worry Jangel, you'll do fine :)

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GreivousKhan said
Someone needs to tell the Skyrim player that giants were meant to be supporting the stormcloaks in the game but the makers never got around to including it due to dead line. It's still in the code though.Cause giants make badass shock troopers no matter where who you ask. I know it wont help in a naval battle in bit, but still.

Yipes, stormcloaks with giants. That'd have been awesome, imagine having to fight giants as an Imperial Soldier xD

High Rock is looking interesting, and looks like trouble is brewing up (When isn't it in High Rock xD) This will be fun :)

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GreivousKhan said
Pfft, just use their division against them like Talos did, it's not hard. High Rock will probably be the easiest province to deal with. Also all that wood in pacifist land is lookin mighty tempting.

No, its not hard to do that at all, but its more fun to try and solve things in a different manner, at least initially

Exactly what the Thalmor are thinking, I am sure, look at all that wood xD

It seems dealing with the Thalmor will be harder than I initially anticipated, since it seems the races of Tamriel are averse to ending them. Seems that getting the Breton navy just became much more important

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GreivousKhan said
Suddenly Emperor Gaius Triarius the First hopes of a united empire fell on his face and took a dump on it.

Nah, the plans for the fall of the Thalmor don't involve an Empire, they involve an alliance. No one can deny that the Thalmor will try again, and they're a threat to all the nations of men. He'll keep trying until he forges an alliance against the Thalmor. (I have a feeling that'll only happen once the Thalmor begin to seem like a threat again) After that comes the Empire building :

As for High Rock, it is indeed ridden with problems and nothing is going to please everyone. The plan will be to call a summit and try to solve as many problems as possible. Its likely they will walk out of course, but its better to try a diplomatic solution first. Its hard to turn a province to the support of the Empire if you intend to march legions around making threats if they don't stay in line xD

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The Empire left Morrowind to fend for its self? That does surprise me, even Mede released the Imperial Legions in Hammerfell from service by declaring them invalid so they could continue to fight with the Redguards against the Thalmor

As for High Rock, I sense politics up there are going to be a nightmare to deal with, once the Thalmor are dealt with, I'll have to deal with that

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Heh, maybe the Thalmor don't respect the forest xD

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Jangel13 said
except my bosmer are pacifists we don't like to go to open war for the obvious reasons under our green pact, we will defend our forests to the very death but open conflict is generally avoided

Indeed, but they also seem interested in coin, no? The Thalmor aren't exactly going to be happy with Valenwood trading with Morrowind, let alone Elsweyr. I might not be able to convince them to go to war against the Thalmor on Summerset, but hopefully I can convince them to try and kick the Thalmor out of Valenwood. Phase one is the most vital because if the Wood elves kick the Thalmor out and become independent, then the Thalmor is dealt a demoralising and humiliating blow, as well as forcing them back tactically so the forces can be focussed on invading Summerset and wont be worn from fighting in Valenwood
Well, it doesn't help that the Aldmeri Dominion got turned into a punching bag. Elsweyr drove them out, Skyrim killed their Justicars and as a result of the shift of the throne in cyrodiil the Empire has practically been fighting a secret war (Supplying Elsweyr rebels, not obeying the White Gold Concordat, etc.) They are hard to take seriously when they are getting shoved around. Guess people don't like obeying Elven Supremacists, I wonder why :

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GreivousKhan said
In summary, the Empire needs just a few miracles. :p I mean even with the first two phases, an invasion of Summer set is no small challenge. Close to a herculean effort when I think about it, since it took the Brass God(Numundium) to invade Summerset the one and only time anyone has ever succeeded in the task.

I think it can be managed, the Thalmor appear to be facing a rapid decline, if Phase one plays out they would be close to collapse, and as you pointed out the elves live a thousand years, I am sure some are against the Thalmor and even those which aren't may be having doubts about the strength of their leaders. Such a rapid decline would certainly impact morale. I don't think it needs miracles so much as it need to get the other races to think ending the Thalmor would be useful. Once the Dominion is pushed back to Summerset and their navy lies in tatters, the elves might well be demoralised. It will require time, but if the other races gain a foothold and keep it held, maybe they can coerce the Thalmor into a surrender. If not, we take their key positions and leave them for dead

If it took the Numundium the first time, lets go one higher and beat them without it the second time. The Thalmor are tough, but from everything we've seen they aren't invincible. A united army of Redguards, Nords, Bretons, Khajiit, Bosmer and Imperials should hopefully be enough to topple the Thalmor, if not we'll ask the Dark Elves too, they are powerful mages.

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Phase two of my plan involves acquiring assistance from Hammerfell in Naval assets, I mentioned that the Imperial Navy isn't exactly a sparkling beacon xD (After all, the current Empire is bordered by independent factions that, if war was to break out, would likely be attacking across land, so a strong Army is key rather than a strong navy. With the Thalmor its really the other way around, so if the Empire manages to land on Summerset it will stand a fair chance, but the Imperial Navy is inferior to the High Elven navy.) It hinges on whether phase one does work out (If phase one fails phase two would be heavily delayed, if not outright stopped) and then heavily on whether Hammerfell would be willing to help cripple the Thalmor navy. Phase three is where the Imperial legion comes into play and lands on Summerset isle, hopefully with the support of Skyrim, if Phase three is initiated the Thalmor are in check, hopefully soon to be checkmate. Bretons have magical resistance while the Altmer have a weakness to magic, so I should be able to use Breton Battle mages to trade blows with the Thalmor mages while the skilled fast attack Redguard and quick moving Kajhiit dash in from a flank to deal with the Altmers powerful mages (If the Redguards get into one on one melee combat with the Thalmor mages, the skilled redguard should be able to deal with them, especially with khajiit aid) while the Legionairres and the Nords deal with the Thalmor infantry

As you see there are two major problems with this plot. The first is Phase one, which relies heavily on a bit of political maneuvering which could easily fail. The second is that it definitely requires Hammerfell and High Rock navies (Cant land the armies if the Thalmor sink the boats) which could be troublesome to obtain. It could also do with the aid of Skyrim to aid in the land combat. Hammerfell and Skyrim almost certainly trust the Empire as much as one might trust a con man, and High Rock is full of political warring.