Dazsos

Divinity Vs Dazsos!

Hypocrisy is what pisses me off... and I'm seething right now. Like, is this some horribly demeaning tactic to try and make me argue with less rationality, and more hate?

Cool down, Daz, cool down...

Alright...

It's stated the runes were written, and several turns progressed. The rune was written, the rune was prepared. If you forgot that it was written... you made a mistake! I don't have to continually remind you that it exists if it's created, because I assume you don't have a goldfish memory. You cannot ignore/forget my preps, then say they don't exist. Are you so desperate? Comprehend that different forms of magic work in different ways; My character creates spells that can be dormant until activated. You accepted battling Myron's sheet, with all the information available to you. I accepted a battle with Corban, with minimal information given to me. So far I've given you far more respect than you've given me.

Corban's spells always take roughly one turn to both prep and activate, sometimes less! Multiple spells in fractions of seconds? I've never seen a single one of your abilities actually take a logical amount of time time to activate. Myron's runic spells that he has to conjure from nothing always took 2 or more turns. You are not properly prepping your spells; therefore your argument should reflect on your own hypocrisy. Those two spells made in a fraction of a second should be null and void. Because prep means logical time casted. And you sir, do not prep.

Arena Chat Thread

Glad to see someone is enjoying my prolonged debates with Divinity.

I'd go in to detail about my ire for super-vaguely written skills, but then it might seem like I'm mocking my opponent behind his back. So I'll just say I agree with Melon when he says Statistics are a limiting factor which is what makes them useful, generally vague descriptions of abilities are going to leave too much room for subjectivity and cause problems in ranked fights.

Divinity Vs Dazsos!

The beam was prepped. I stated a Beacon of Nihil was written in the eye. That's all the preparation I needed. That's how his spell works. Power doesn't grow within it, the rune unleashes it all at once from a completely dormant state.

When you say the aerogel is enhanced beyond normal means, you don't mention the science behind its fortification. You give no basis on what could destroy it. Graphene Aerogel's unworldly limits could very well include doubling up the heat absorption to 12,000f, which even then wouldn't be enough.

Myron activated his laser half a second after the sheath struck his shield. Corban reacted instantly after hearing his sheath be deflected. The time-frame is visible in the IC. It's under a second, roughly half of one.

Divinity Vs Dazsos!

Myron activated one spell (technically two runes, gravity & erosion), it was prepped before the post he used it in. (during the timeframe in which he created his mask, which began on post 6.) It's a disintegration ray, and it's pretty much his only spell that moves at bullet-like speeds. The ray was shot at point blank, after Myron began tracking his foe's underground trajectory. Corban used a railgun spell (?) to shoot both his sword sheath and sword at Myron's solarplex, half a second after the sheath struck Myron's mask-shield, he fired the laser. ( The laserbeam is coming out of the mask's eye.)

Defending against the laser beam, Corban would react the second he hears the sheath clash. He creates a graphene aerogel around his sword, enchants it to be stronger than any worldly aerogel known to date, and then erects a magical sublimating conjunction around the sword's blade capable of dividing the beam off course. My issue with this is the split-second decision it would take, the difficulty needed to channel and activate a complex spell and a barrier at the same time, and the fact that aerogel wouldn't actually be able to handle heat or kinetic pressure of this caliber; I had to research graphene aerogels to be sure, myself.

I don't mean to entirely speak on behalf of Divinity, so of course, his rebuttal will also be important to hear.

Divinity Vs Dazsos!

I wasn't using the gravity part before, because at that time, gravity was locked, so I technically couldn't. Now it's a little different, gravity is now unlocked; there IS a gravity rune in Beacon of Nihil, and it's aimed at Corban. You can't suddenly go back on your agreement for Myron to unlock that rune, just now while its effects are being used. Also, your character dealt with the beam in its weakest form, when its state changes after 100ft. I'm sure Corban wouldn't be aware that it is hundreds of times more lethal up close.

Aerogel is 98% air, so I see a wind wizard having more leeway here. Your character can surely abuse his power over the 2% with ease, though, cause that's carbon graphene. I looked in to the process of making aerogel, too... it requires rather precise methods depending on what type of aerogel. Formation of the gel. Super-critical drying and extracting of liquids. Graphene also requires precision; Forming a base out of zinc, only to evaporate it later with heat.

Also I was prepared for your argument 'well Corban can quick cast abilities he used before,' ages ago. You gave him a cap on spells he can quick-cast, limiting it to 'the most recent 3 he used.' Since the kinetic barrier that deflected Myron's beam was the first spell you used in our bout, and Corban has definitely used more than 3 since then, he should not receive the quick-cast buff just because he used a spell prior; Else, by that logic, Corban can quick cast any spell he's ever used once.

Let us see what @Innue has to say about this debate.

Edit: So Corban can quick-cast two complex spells at the same time, in under a second? Wow... I dunno' if I want to give you that privilege.

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There was no mention in your second last post that Corban was preparing for a riposte, so I must assume his actions are all post-haste. There was mention that he'd already shoot out Ishtalle, though, and 'immediately' after.

Split seconds was a reference to everything that would be going on in that moment, and how long it took Myron to lock in on the burrowing Corban. It is mentioned specifically that there is less than a second between the sheath striking his shield, and the laser beam being set off, this is the timeframe Corban has to fully create aerogel, enchant it, and enchant Ishtalle to deflect magic. (Also, wasn't his enchanting ability nerfed?)

If you're going to use a real-life synthetic material as an example, it should follow the laws of its own physicality. Aerogel is one of the lightest materials on earth, there is no doubt that the beam would thrust Ishtalle right back in to Corban. After some research, I've also learned that aerogel & areographene have a melting point of about 2,250F, which means it cannot insulate against lava. A disintegration ray has the heat and pressure necessary to not only melt rock in to lava, but to eradicate it entirely. Both melting and shattering are likely scenarios for the aerogel, even if it is enchanted beyond the norm. We're talking fifty times hotter than aerogel can handle. (EDIT: More research, carbon aerogel melts at about 6,422F, which still doesn't protect it.)

You weren't aware that the beam had the force of extreme gravity behind it, so you didn't post accordingly to what would happen if it did. This means edits need to be made. Beacon of Nihil is stated to be the combination of two major runes, gravity, and erosion, that is because it has the effects of both. It is not a hyperpowered flashlight, it is one of Myron's most powerful spells; and he only has a few purely offensive spells.

Divinity Vs Dazsos!

If any stray beam seeped through the cracks and was able to damage his diamond skin, I don't see how he wouldn't be left with searing burns or at least some kind of hint towards damage taken.

Now I also don't know how Corban would be able to quick-cast that defence in a mere milisecond, as a reaction to his sheath being blocked. Myron wasn't preparing a riposte, he was scouting for Corban's whereabouts and aiming his attack beforehand, only a fraction of a second after the sheath struck had Myron actually unleashed the attack he had been honing. I might agree to him quick-casting so that it's not a kill-shot, but I still don't see him being left unscathed if sparks could burn through his diamond skin.

Oh, and this aerogel coating, is it actual aerogel? From my knowledge, aerogel is a good heat insulator, but it's actually quite fragile and shatters under pressure... and there's a lot of pressure in that hyper beam.

EDIT: Also I just remembered an important point I had in my head about our earlier debate. It's not relevant now, but I gotta' get it off my chest. You stated that all kinetic energy isn't connected, whilst I said it was. I think my part of that argument stems from the idea that the earth rotates, so everything is always given motion, regardless of how insignificantly small. But now I have to take in to consideration that this is high tier, so we can just tell physics to fuck off, really.

Divinity Vs Dazsos!

By the end of that post, I have no clue where Corban/Ishtalle is... no clue where or in what angles they traveled, because I didn't know where they were facing before being pushed backwards, or if backwards would've meant deeper in to the earth. Irrigation is usually on the surface of dirt, but he was underground, so I'm a bit confused about that.

Also, given the nature of the beam, it's gravity locked in to a certain direction up close. Since its width is greater than a sword's edge, I'm not sure if its course would be completely bent in to a V shape, as opposed to the dis-junction protecting Ishtalle from destruction, whilst two separately smaller beams on either side of the sword continued their original path.

Divinity Vs Dazsos!

To your second paragraph, I'm not talking about the first laser beam Myron fired, but the current one. I'd say ease, scope, and power are all important. Quality and quantity both matter, as well.

The book would've been behind the dome of ice, so I figure Myron would have enough time to toss it aside when he hears a boom.

I've got a touch of writer's block right now, so I'll tell you about Myron's racial features later.

Dazsos vs Starfall

Finally got to re-reading everything.

When I'm in a less feverish state, I'll make my post. I definitely don't want to write anything when I'm not at my best.