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So Boerd said Don't you have faith in human rights, Gwazi?


I believe in human rights, but not on faith.

Humanity has been proven to function better when medical and education is covered, so they can focus more on other matters. Humans tend to be more effective in a job/field of their choosing/skill set rather than being forced to pick cotton. More advanced nations tend to allow free of speech, which allows for more ideas to be spread meaning more advancement over all.

In other words, proof and evidence based.
So Boerd said Now go tell Gwazi :/




The main issue here is basically

Faith = Belief in something without proof and evidence
Skepticism = Needing proof and evidence

Until someone can convince me that it is better to not require proof and evidence my stance in terms of faith is going to remain the same.

But note, I'm not going to go around executing people, tearing down church's or treating people as less than human over it. It's a disagreement.
You can disagree with a person's opinion or methods of obtaining said opinion without being hostile or enemies with the person. There are a number of Religious people I highly respect and get along with. I simply disagree with them in some categories.

The only time I'm going to try to argue it is if

a) It's a debate where most parties willingly entered, conscious and aware that it was a debate ahead of time
b) You are using said belief's/practices to do something harmful such as get rid of Science Education in schools
So Boerd said Let the record reflect, that Magic believes Young earth creationism caused the Crusades.


>You say the evolution debate has little effect
>I reply saying in terms of wars and crusades perhaps

Maybe it's just me, but I'm pretty sure that means I just said the Crusade's and Wars weren't started over the 6000 years old/evolution part of Religion.
Not that I thought that was the reason...
ReaptheMusic said Couldn't someone just bring it up to Mahz? I mean she... he... has a twitter now or something right?


Already have, it's priorities like Brovo had said.
So Boerd said Of all the disputations to have, that one has the least impact.


Impact in terms of Religious Wars or Crusades perhaps.
But it has a rather big impact on education and scientific knowledge.

So Boerd said What difference does it make if they don't?


Quite a lot, it's basically going "What difference does it make if we believe in Gravity, but say it doesn't apply to humans?".
I love the maps! Makes it so much easier to keep track of the fighting! :D

SwiftOnRPGuild said NOTE: 696969 is resuming control of Corporal McCoy.


Just when he lost his arm?

Priceless!
So Boerd said The amount of effort is not commensurate to the reward if I prove it.


Ah.

Glad I asked for clarification then, my first impression was something else entirely.

Brovo said -Personally: Whatever works best for me may not work best for others. Besides, if I firmly believe something myself, while I can try to explain it to others, there's no point in trying to "convert" them.Others can have their opinion about that, and I can think it wrong just as they can think themselves right, and so long as we can coexist, and tolerate one another, and at least have some rudimentary ability to understand each other, then we're all good. I don't have to "prove" to a Christian my atheism for instance: I cannot prove to a person how it is I internally think beyond a shadow of a doubt. They're not telepaths, and what would it even matter to them? So long as they don't try to misconstrue my atheism for being something it's not, and use that to predispose judgement or otherwise, why should I care? Let them believe what they believe, and let me not believe that thing they believe, and so long as they're good neighbours and I'm a good neighbour and we all just leave each other alone in our personal spaces, what does it matter to it?


True enough.

But what if it were a case of something such as dead Ghosts appearing, something that is not an inner working of the mind or based on emotion/spirit (ex: Art, Relationship Health) but rather something concrete and observable would you want it to be proven? For nothing more than to get across the fact, we can assume that if this is left unproven that no conflict would take place. That both beliefs are respected, it's just that talking with Ghosts is given no scientific standing.

Now, I'll fully admit now I may simply care about exposing the truth of things for the sake of the truth being known more than most people. I could say I'm rather extreme in the stance of if a truth can be shared or proven than it should be (Obvious exceptions, ex: Hiding a persons location from someone looking to hurt them).

mdk said I made a change in bold. If we all afforded one another that same courtesy, the world would be a better place; sadly, religious or atheist or pastafarian, we collectively cannot seem to resist the urge.


Less Hostile conflict = Better world, I can agree with that.

However, there is a reason such conflict exists. Look at the bible, there are many ways people can interpret it. Sometime's they may come in direct conflict with other systems. For example, ______ Church want's to teach the earth is 6,000 years old. Science want's to teach otherwise, this issue won't be resolved by simply agreeing to disagreeing and respecting one another's desires. A decision has to be made, a side needs to be chosen. Now, I will fully admit these conflict's could be resolved far more civil/peacefully than they often are, but it is a conflict that cannot be settled by simply letting it be.
mdk said A better way to phrase the question would be, 'What is gained by proving something to another person?'


^Stuff like this is exactly part of the reason why I don't consider myself a good people person, my ability to word questions and such is shit.

mdk said In some cases, a lot ('I have proven that this new concrete mix is safer and cheaper, and now manufacturers will buy from me, and everyone profits). In other cases, not much ('I have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that I do not like vanilla ice cream, and now people know I'm for real when I say I don't like vanilla ice cream).


lol, well ice cream is rather important though mdk :P
So Boerd said Yeah, if it is inconvenient or irrelevant. Am I capable of saying the word, "Chartreuse"? Yes. Is it worth proving? No.


Do you care to expand on what you mean by if it's Inconvenient?
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