Kidd said
Also starting your point with "I'm not racist, but..." probably means you're at least a little racist.
ASTA said
I'm finding it incredibly difficult to sympathize with any European that is 'harmed' by affirmative action given that said European is most likely benefiting from the generations of conquest and expansionism that saw the various old empires of that landmass rise to economical and martial prowess. Also, I strongly doubt a privileged majority is harmed by affirmative action considering minority groups in the US are still fighting an uphill battle even with these 'advantages' people enjoy pointing out. Actually they aren't even advantages. They're more like 'equalizers' if anything, but even using that phrase is being exceptionally generous.
The best equalizer is honestly having no equalizers.
I understand the desire to have one, but it makes hiring practices bias.
Now, instead of hiring someone strictly on skill and abilities (Race not entering the equation) there is now a quota to fill.
If you were to get two applicants, one was white and very skilled and the other was black and not so skilled you may be forced to hire the less skilled person strictly due to their skin colour.
It's effectively job discrimination based on race, but in favor of the minorities. Now, if you were a minority would you rather stop being one because you've proven yourselves to be skilled and capable? Or would you rather stop being one because you were hand-holded and given special treatment?
The Nexerus said
You are so horrifically ignorant and racist that I'm not even going to attempt to force rationality on you. You are too long gone, and too firm in your belief that everyone with a pale skin tone is basically Hitler.
I find it Ironic that it's the guy with the Grammar Nazi pic who is calling others Hitler as an insult.
Rare said
Well, if you think about it, slavery did have good outcomes.
One, Economically, slavery was very beneficial to the landowners for whom they worked. Since they did not have to pay wages (although some did provide basic necessities) they enjoyed a larger bottom line (profit) This speaks to political advantages. Directly or indirectly, these profits were used to build the infrastructure of countries that had slavery.
Two, it helped out the New World alot. I mean, slavers helped grew the population in the New World- 9.4 and 12 million arrived in the New World. The rich and wealthy people wouldn't give up anything and travel to the New World as well.
And three, it founded the cultures, traditions, and the customs of slaves. Where would we be without jazz, folk tales, and many other famous things?
1. Benefited the few, harmed the many. It's a practice Spock would of been hugely disappointed in.
Yes it may have had
some economic benefit by allowing a few people to contribute more, but it more than evens out to the negatives when you look at all the people who could have been successful workers, business men, apprentices etc whose ability to contribute was greatly stifled by being reduced to a slave.
2. Because they were the only ones with any power/authority to do so. Slaves had no rights, they had no say to move somewhere, or no resources to contribute. Because they were never given the chance.
Plus the New World's major contribution of population wasn't even slaves, it was immigrants looking to start a new life. Something that there was plenty of.
3. Say what? Slavery took people away from the culture and basically destroyed it, reducing the slaves to... well slaves. They didn't make their culture by being slaves, some may have held onto some of their culture for when they were freed, or as some comfort when enslaved. But that culture could of been introduced far better by simply accepting them as immigrants.
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