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Phoenix said
I agree with you, but there are some things were discipline is difficult or impossible to enact due to the nature of the misbehavior. This is why I specified the social and emotional mores and taboos which might call for punishment rather than discipline. It's difficult to make a child feel a certain emotion and furthermore to make them realize that other people even have emotions (considering how socio or psychopathic the child). Also, if they purposefully spill something and know that their discipline will be to clean it up, they might learn that they can spill it whenever they like as long as they clean it up, resulting in wasteful and counter-productive behavior. That's stretching for a counter-argument, but something I just thought up that might be legitimate >.> I dunno...

There's other discipline methods that can be practiced first.
Losing access to the milk (Make sure they still have access to something to drink though), all spill able glasses locked away and they now have to work with sippie cups.
They now need to ask their parents to get the stuff for them (Move the Milk and glasses out of the child's reach).

Also doing any kind of discipline or punishment only once or twice rarely stops the child from doing it.
Repetition is needed, you may need to have the child clean up their own spill over a dozen times before they stop. But they'll stop.

Also with most children the ability to relate to other's feelings is something that happens developmentally over time.
Before hand is known as "Egocentric", it's not a form of selfishness or greed. They just literally can't comprehend yet that people outside of them have feelings.

Vanq said
Verbal/psychological/emotional abuse is recognized much the same as physical abuse, yet we aren't talking about bringing in parents who yell at their kids or tell them they did something "bad." (Side note, I have known people who were very against using any negative words to their children. They created little monsters.

This is true, verbal/psychological/emotional abuse can be just if not more harmful to the child than physical abuse.
Like when I was growing up as a kid my Mom yelled at me and we got into arguments every day for one reason or another (and being the adult, whenever we told others like family or teachers they'd always side with her cause "she's the adult, she must be right") and unsurprisingly as a result today, I don't really have much feelings for her or care at all about what she thinks of me or what I do.

Though I do need to ask Vanq, can you clarify what you mean when you say negative words?

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Halo said
I kept the question brief as I need to be aware of all possible avenues of argument in order to best prepare for the debate. I wanted to see what people would say and what arguments they would form without being guided toward any specifics. Hence, I kept it brief and plain.

1. Do you not think that a coupling of punishment with an explanation of why punishment is necessary is a good way to reinforce the negative consequences of that action while simultaneously educating the child on the morality of their actions? (that's a very long clusterfuck of a sentence, hope it made sense.)

2. What about the exploitation of women in poor or developing countries for the purposes of commercial surrogacy?

Understandable, and I wasn't complaining. Just stating that when given limited info to go off of my responses tend to also be limited.

1. This is where the difference of Discipline VS Punishment comes into play.
Being in ECE (Early Childhood Education) at college atm this is something I've already been trained in.

Discipline is the result/reaction to a misbehaviour that relates to the misbehaviour.

Punishment is a result/reaction that doesn't relate. It is simply there to make the receiver feel bad for what they did.

For example, a child is pouring milk and spills it all over the floor.
Discipline would be having the child grab a mop and clean it up.
Punishment would be sending them to their room, yelling at them or slapping their wrist for it.

Raising a child on discipline allows the child to learn and see the natural consequences of their actions.
They gain and are given (By their mentor/guardian) insight, explanation and reasoning for what happened, why it happened and what should happen as a result.
This allows for more healthy and positive child development, a better relationship between parent & child and a better understanding on what and why something is wrong.

Also, punishment like hitting is never, ever necessary to teach your child a lesson.
Is it easy? Yes, if you're the kind of parent you can stomach your child being in pain.
Can it make them stop? Maybe, depends on the child.
Does the child walk away with much outside of injuries and bruises? Maybe guilt, and anything that causes them to understand what they did is wrong can be better done with discipline, natural consequences and communication.

2. Anything that put's a person in a situation where they feel forced to do something they don't want to do (Obvious exceptions such as paying taxes) I despise.
In the same sense, I think prostitution should be legal. But entrapping women into doing it, or making it their only way to support themselves is not ok.

If a tree falls over in a forest, and nobody is around to hear it...

Tree's are capable of rotting out and dying on their own.
It probably just reached the tree equivalency of old age.

Or something damaged it beforehand and it just now gave out from the lack of support.

The Name Game

Breakup blues remedies anyone? :(

A strategy I also find helps many people is try to get back into your daily life and routine as soon as possible.
Grieving and such is important and healthy, but too much of it get's your mind stuck in a very pro-longed hurtful period where you're being hurt/held back by the break up far longer than you should be.

Trust me on the last part, I'm speaking from personal experience there.

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Normally I'd go on a good amount on my views/opinions.

But this is unlikely when the question asked is so brief, and even more unlikely when I'm tired.
This is both, so this is a rare case I'll keep this short(ish).

1) Against it, fully. If anyone else is punished with violence we call it assault and abuse, the use on children should be viewed no differently.
Plus it teaches them nothing outside of "Try not to do this, when they're around". If it ever actually causes a child to feel bad about what they did and stop, that's more a case of that child realizing they hurt their parents and wanting to stop. Which they could of realized by being told that they did rather than by being hit over it.

2) Never thought about it. Nor heard of that term for it before so I had to look it up quickly.
Basically, as long as it's safe treatment I see no issues in the practice of going to another country for treatment of any kind.

Me saying if it's a good choice or a bad choice though would be a case by case analysis on what they are working on, why they are working on it and why are they leaving the country for it.

Spam we need some browser based mtuiplayer game, where we can all gang up together

Runescape still has PVP servers and PVP areas in PVE servers to my knowledge.

Otherwise games like Day Z and Rust do the job.
But those require you to pay for them.

"Affluenza" makes it okay...

Being 100% honest I always have issues saying "Lock em up for good" cause I keep thinking 'What if it was me? If I ever caused it I'd more than regret it before the sentence was up'.

However, that's just me stating a voice that does speak up in my head when stuff like this happens.
Not my actual opinion/thought on the matter.

My opinion/thought would be this is bullshit. There is no reason for someone to claim being rich as a mental illness.
It's really just rich people going "Look! I have money! Screw you Law! Screw you non-rich people who were hurt!".

And I do have a strong hatred/intolerance for people who do stupid shit like drunk driving, especially when others are harmed/killed by it.
People who cause that to happen do fully deserve the Jail time the law gives them.

Mac vs. PC?

PC lets you play a lot more games, and let's you modify and control things better.

Mac's almost give you no ability to alter things in the name of being "User Friendly" which basically translates to being easier for those who know nothing at all about computers, but then a pain once you learn a thing or two about computers.

Though honestly, the much bigger games library PC has over Mac should be enough.