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Internet Relationships

Awson said
It's the "do you think this is a motherfucking game?" cat, obviously. What is wrong with you two?

*Refer to my sig*

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The Nexerus said
It doesn't matter who made the rules or what their purpose is, they're the rules, and the entire foundation of society depends upon them being followed, and any deviation from them being punished. That's how it works.

Elder Scrolls Online beta weekend

mdk said
No problems so far. The attack spells are pretty boss and you can do whatever you want for armor/weapon trees, so there's nothing stopping you from being a powerhouse as well as a healer.

Good point.

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ImANargleHunter said
??????I don't understand

Only the first few words were on noting I knew how.

The rest was explaining why I forgot we already had them.

Overwatch said
On topic, I guessI had one, for a few months, and it was working out, or, at least, it seemed to be for a little while, but, the more I kept it up, I felt my feelings fading... Things seem less human to me over the internet, and a devotion of that level over this medium just ends up getting me burned. I've tried and tried, and I can't do it. I guess I'm too weak? Whatever, I applaud those who can keep up that kind of thing.I'm happy, and have an in-person girlfriend now. I've noticed that I'm more one to hang by her, and lean on her and give her hugs a lot. Heh, I'd do anything to spend more time with her... That's the way it's supposed to be, right? Too bad that I'm less of a "guy" around her. She pokes fun at me for being in the "Girl" position when holding hands or linking arms, and, I'm a lot more shy around her. Jeez, I need to fix that... But, when I am "cool" I still feel nervous, and she punches me for the slang I use. >< anyway, this is about internet relationships... i strayed a bit off topic.

You didn't stray off topic (If anything Turt did when he decided to complain about word count). Part of discussing online relationships is comparing them to in person relationships.

Also there's no shame is being "Less of a guy", being "In the Girl Position" or being Shy in the relationship.
That's just stuff culture tells us we should behave like do to what we were born as (which is stupid, cause we have no control over the sex we're born as).

If what goes on with you two works, and makes you both happy that's all that matters.

Elder Scrolls Online beta weekend

What is the Templar/Paladin class actually like?

Do you get much use out of it when playing solo?
That's normally my main issues with healers, if you're on your own then you're main use is non-existent.
And you'll often be on your own, especially in this Beta where things are so easy there's no need for others.

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Turtlicious said
You are way too long winded.E: I'm going to play the "My thread, My rules" card from Old Guild.You're not allowed more then 20 sentences to explain your point.

You say that as if you haven't gone on for a long time before.

LoneSilverWolf said
'Wow turt, what's the point of participating in such a thread if you are going to be to lazy to read someones post and call them long winded just because they make a lengthy post--especially when if you'd turn off "lazy" mode and actually read it, there's some fine points in it? I don't think you realize what a discussion is *insert eyeroll here*

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To be fair I do have a tendency to talk a lot, to the point Brovo uses this to describe me.
But if someone doesn't wish to read it, just don't read it.

It's not like you're ever obligated to read it.
+I used Hiders to divide it up so people could skip parts if they wished. :P

ImANargleHunter said
He took a paragraph to say what could have been summed up in "I know how hiders work."

You obviously didn't read said paragraph then.
Or you did, and chose pretend explaining why I did _____ and also then somehow about knowing to do hiders.

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LoneSilverWolf said
We do have hiders, friend xD First off, nice post, love the points you made, and I can say that while I've only had one online relationship and it ended as badly as it possibly could, I have a few REALLY REALLY good friends online. One whom I've adopted as a sister really--we talk ALL the time, we share personal shit that I've never told anyone except my...guess I can call her ex-girlfriend now :(....So I do believe you can not only have strong relationships online, but strong friendships too! Great points, and well stated.Now about the hiders--just type[hider]stuff here[/hider]OR

I know how the hider code works :P Thanks for reminding me it is in fact up though.
I just forgot Mahz got around to adding it to the site...
Which was really dumb of me cause now I remember using it here before. -.-
I've been up for 30 hours though with 2 hours sleep, I'm gonna be off a bit... :/ (I would sleep, if my body let me).

Also to clarify what I said in regards to the friends.

They weren't online, they were from High School.
Also, I wasn't trying to say it wasn't possible to have both. I know fully well it is, and we were close back then even.
What I was trying to say was that when in the relationship all my priorities were around that, I had always treated my friends as secondary which I really regret doing.

Though oddly enough when I try apologizing to them for it they say that I shouldn't be saying sorry.
That I should of been making her my top priority since she was my girlfriend and all. :P

Elder Scrolls Online beta weekend

My main is a Orc Dragonknight with a Great Axe and Heavy Armor.
(Based him off a D&D character).

I have a secondary High Elf Mage, but didn't get far.
Too squishy and the attacks take too long, causes you to run around too much which only attracts even more enemies.

I contemplated trying the other two classes.
But I'm no good at buffing/healing (nor do I think I'd get any use from it. Considering how I have no to really play it with who actually wants to play it).
And stealth... in combination of other's stealing kills and from what I heard with it eating stamina... It just seems really bad. :/

I am tempted to try a Nord Great Sword Light or Medium Armor though before the Beta ends.
The extra speed and agility over the Orc would be fun to play with.

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Something I

I find people who are against online relationships tend to look at them and go one of two ways:

1) They personally couldn't handle it, so they rule that it's fake or not possible
2) They see the massive amount of those that fail, and as a result call them unstable and think they won't work.

My response to each of the following is:

1) Everyone is different, just because you yourself can't handle one, doesn't mean the rule applies to everyone.
2) Most RL relationships also fail miserably, but we don't go around saying face to face relationships don't work as a result.

Now that's out of the way... I'll get started in responding to your points.

First off, I'd have to disagree with the Introverted VS Extroverted bit.

They can be extroverted in that they love talking and interacting.
Like maybe that one friend whose always calling people on Skype, inviting you to online games etc.
Something like that can actually help in an online relationship if for nothing more than to give the couple more things to be doing.

I do agree that not everyone can handle it.
I know when I was in one, the fact I wasn't ever able to see her in person, hold her or kiss her would tear at me beyond belief.
I stayed though because I got more enjoyment and fulfillment out of the emotional bond than the pain I got from lacking the physical contact (and as I learned a year ago, I'm a very physical/close person when it comes to relationships).

Higher expectation of communication?
Generally true, but it would depend on the couple.
There will be exceptions where an online couple could get by with semi-daily interaction.
But I'd say the vast majority need more constant communication in order to keep it going.
This can also lead to the couple being much more emotionally close and connected than they could of been if it was in person.

Also people in online relationships can lie... Many times they do.
When I was in one I was lied too, a lot.
Granted she normally was later on honest, but there was a lot of dishonesty going on before she later of decided to be honest about it.

It's much more difficult to uncover a lie online than it is in person. So there's little to no fear about the results of lying.
Also if they struggle a lot with the online part, they may be already pursuing another way to fulfill the physical aspect that they're lying about.

This can be extremely painful for the other person to go through, and all warning signs say get out of there.
But you're too close to the person to consider it as an option, you trick yourself into believing things are fine or that they will work out.
(Personal experience detailed at the bottom of the post, storing down there in case you don't care to hear of personal accounts).

Online relationships I believe also need the goal of being together in person eventually though.
It could take weeks, months or years. But you should be working towards it.
There isn't too much point if you never actually plan to see the other person and be with them.

Personal Experience (Why you need to use your head)

I know after about 2 years of being lied to, made to feel guilty or treated as second option it hurt like hell to leave for good.
It had ended with her basically going "I can't do this now, but maybe later we'll get back together" (This happened a lot, it was on and off), that my heart just shattered and by head leaped into action.

This was someone who was the absolute world to me, they were the thing that made me most happy (and hurt), the one I always thought of, cared for, made priority over all else (Seriously, I had completely prioritized her over my 3 extremely close friends, who astonishingly stuck around till the end. Since we're still friends today even) etc.

But it hit a point where I knew if this didn't end, I was going to keep feeling miserable and dependent. So I got out and completely cut off contact (Until 9 months later, when a grandparent died and I was told at the funeral "Don't let the last experience with those you care for be a negative/hurtful one" so I checked up quickly just to try to make sure there weren't overly bad feelings on either side. But still kept distance and didn't make any efforts to get close again).

I had waited too long to use my head and get out of there, where about 2 years later I still find myself lying in bed most nights, hurting about as much as I did the day it had ended for good. I wasn't able to get out and let my heart be able to recover and heal. I simply had to sever it off from the relationship to prevent any worse damage from developing. Completely removing my feelings from the equation and acting on logic alone.

Granted, this kind of thing could also have happened in real life, but I still say this to stress the point use your head from the start.
Before you get to the point where you need to rely solely on it to you get out of a bad and painful situation.

Elder Scrolls Online beta weekend

The game is semi-enjoyable for me.
I didn't mean to give any impression that I hated it or anything.

I definitely had more fun with it in my first couple hours though than I did once I hit the second area.
It is in Beta granted, I give them that.

But if they don't end up fixing these issues until after all the Beta's (save it for full release) then I won't be buying it cause I wouldn't want to risk spending so much cash on a game to see if it's fixed when previous experience tells me it's not so great.

So hopefully there is another beta test where the fix the problems.