Brovo said
Have you seen the one where mass generalizations based on the vocal minority of a faction or culture represent the entirety of that faction or culture?There's still plenty of admirable feminists, most notable in the middle east.Just figured I'd note that, because whilst I usually argue from the opposite viewpoint, it helps to remember to dehumanize entire groups of people by mocking the most vocally stupid among them.
That wasn't meant to say what all feminist think.
That was just meant to highlight some of the crazy stuff that have been said by a group of feminist before.
I still disagree with modern feminism today as a whole though for focusing on only one gender/sex when both are discriminated against.
I know sometimes people will argue "But feminism also fights for male rights just as much" in which case I say if the efforts and intentions are indeed equal why do they still feel a need to call themselves
feminist?
Dark Wind said
Good to see you too, Magnum :) Although, I've been around, just haven't participated much in Off-Topic, etc. Been especially busy lately.
Understandable. OT was pretty dead for a while when the Guild got up again anyways.
Dark Wind said
Sure, there is a thinking of male dominancy. Is it justified? I'd suggest it is, considering the history of the world. I'd also suggest there are more than just "some" good feminists out there, I'd point out there are numerous good feminists out there. Outspoken, extremist thinkers do not reflect the whole. If they are given more media attention, it is not the fault of other feminists.
Sorry, wasn't until I read your response until I noticed the typo I made. When I said male dominancy I meant female.
Though that was mostly in reference to 1st world countries, I strongly agree there is a clear male dominancy in 3rd world countries.
Where honestly is where femenist's should focus their efforts rather than in places they are already equals.
As for media attention. I remember it was mentioned a bit earlier that those good feminist keep it secret and behind the scenes.
But if feminism was truly doing all these good things, why aren't they making it public and letting people know of the good they do?
Rather than sit back and allow the extremist to fully represent their cause to the public?
It just doesn't make sense to me. If I was a feminist and working on some law to help women and/or men I'd work my hardest to make it public so people would be aware that we still do some good.
Dark Wind said
Again, I'm not saying that is right. I don't condone cultural stigmas or discrimination of any kind, and the fear of women in ECE of men letting men work with infants is misguided. It's also a bit misguided to suggest that that fear should be linked to feminism. Just because someone has a fear of a man working with children, does not make them a feminist.
The ECE example wasn't meant to claim that's what feminist think.
It was meant to highlight an example of male cultural discrimination outside of the typical points of rape/assault charges and child custody.
Dark Wind said
Granted. Yet there is an outspoken group of atheists who want to yell how stupid religious people are and make fun of them for their beliefs. As is an outspoken group of religious people who think the same of atheists. Does this make either side right? I'd firmly say no. There are good religious people and good atheist people. The quicker we learn to accept each others beliefs without imposing out beliefs on others, the faster we can coexist peacefully.Quick note before it gets brought up, I believe religion should be left outside of the class room. Especially creationism. Unless creationism is addressed within a theology course, which is a much different discussion.
(Pre-Warning: I rant a bit here, and I'm unsure if my message remained clear during it. If it doesn't seem clear please say so)
I'm in a group on facebook where this is a common mindset on atheist.
So I can relate and agree that there are troublesome atheists who only add conflict to the issue at hand.
However, most cases of it I've seen were provoked.
Retaliations to religious people trying to force their religion on others in schools, throwing their children onto the street's for not believing anymore, raising their children to either feel like they are terrible people who need saving or simply without a proper explanation of science and how the world works. How Religion treat's about 10-20% of the world population as second class citizens cause of who they are attracted to.
Are these atheist reactions 100% Justified? No, they aren't.
But Religion has ruined the lives on many people, may be it through discrimination and family break ups, or simply cutting them off from a fair and unbias education.
So the anger many atheists hold towards Religion and religious people is at least understandable.
The other half of the problem is simply proof, evidence and contradictions.
Religion is full of contradictions, and rarely has any kind of valid proof or evidence for it.
Scientifically and Rationally speaking, there is no reason to treat it as fact, or teach it to others as fact.
But many religious people do in fact see it as fact, as much a fact (or more so) than Science who has tons of evidence and proof to back it up.
Also if science is proved wrong somewhere it adapts and change's their theories to fit the new information.
In Religion to highlight something wrong is called words of the devil and people get shammed for questioning what they're told to believe.
This leads to the issue where you've got all these people wanting Religion to be treated, looked at and taught with the same validity as Science.
Something which any community that prides itself on science and evidence would never allow, creating conflict.
And even if say Religion got through, you've got hundreds of thousands of kinds to choose from and you can normally only pick one without even the ones you pick getting angry.
I would agree with everyone learning to accept each others belief's, agreeing to disagree on it.
But to accept in the sense of accepting it into society as something people should live by, research by, rule by etc. is going backwards in scientific progress.
Dark Wind said
Also, not to get too distracted from the OP's question…What's bothering me is that it's spring break, yet my professors decided to give me 20+ pages of script writing to do, an eight page exam paper, 300+ pages of reading to do, and another 4 pages of assignments. What's the point of a break if you're going to do that, lol.
Well obviously cause that week off is meant for teachers to load you full of work with! :P
Honestly though, I remember hearing before that those weeks off are meant for mental health to keep suicide rates at college's and universities down.
The fact they use it as a time to stack of work for is completely contradicting to the reason we have said breaks to begin with. -.-
And I can't say for your program specifically, but I normally find the reading's are never needed for the courses.
Normally just repeat of what's already taught in class.
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