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Hey y'all. I am about to start working on a webcomic and try to draw for a living now.
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Fair points. I concede on the issue as you did point out that it was (regrettebly) how people on the internet work. They think nothing of it becouse they are safe behind a screen. Its still degenerative, ILLEGAL activity however.
It escalated into it becouse the media is evolving into a corruption of the whole female struggle. Its a problem, a massive one, that people like Quinn try to clear themselves of guilt by claiming mysogony. Granted, 4chan holds some of the worst internet has to offer, and I have no doubt it houses some pretty terrible, female hating idiots. But the fact is that people like Zoey are great at one thing; Manipulation. She isn't dumb, she proven that. She is very good at swaying people, trough any means possible from the looks of it. But she would not have been able to get this ground swell of support had it not been for sensationalism of journalism. The whole hacking affair is just another part of internet culture. Hacktevism is a thing, it was only a matter of time before it became a beligerent source of attack.
It escalated into it becouse the media is evolving into a corruption of the whole female struggle. Its a problem, a massive one, that people like Quinn try to clear themselves of guilt by claiming mysogony. Granted, 4chan holds some of the worst internet has to offer, and I have no doubt it houses some pretty terrible, female hating idiots. But the fact is that people like Zoey are great at one thing; Manipulation. She isn't dumb, she proven that. She is very good at swaying people, trough any means possible from the looks of it. But she would not have been able to get this ground swell of support had it not been for sensationalism of journalism. The whole hacking affair is just another part of internet culture. Hacktevism is a thing, it was only a matter of time before it became a beligerent source of attack.
Are you seriusly, seriusly defending deaththreats Magnum. Or are you just blatantly shoving that aside?
"And this was all one big Logical Fallacy known as the fallacy of relative prviation. Yes this kind of bribery is common in journalism, that doesn't mean Zoe Quinn is suddenly granted protection."
At what point did I say this? I never did. That is called missdirection. I was just as adamant against Zoey as everyone else in this thread so far. I brought up the point of actual femmenists being upset with her even. I merely highlighted a even bigger problem, relevant to the issue.
"And this was all one big Logical Fallacy known as the fallacy of relative prviation. Yes this kind of bribery is common in journalism, that doesn't mean Zoe Quinn is suddenly granted protection."
At what point did I say this? I never did. That is called missdirection. I was just as adamant against Zoey as everyone else in this thread so far. I brought up the point of actual femmenists being upset with her even. I merely highlighted a even bigger problem, relevant to the issue.
While Jeckyl and Hyde is more of a Gothic Horror thing then a fairytale, I am rather ok with it still. My ehhhh is the Fairy Dust thing. Taking a established thing and making it your own is not really kosher. I personally had meant to make it tied to something else. We also need alot more "law abiding" citizens atm. Dragos the final judge in the matter however.
"-A fair amount of ranting on feminism-"
Subverting my opinion to a rant and disregarding everything I wrote, without bringing up a single point of the entire argument? Atleast try to form a structured, logical approach and meet the criticism leveled against you. Instead you wave it off with cynisism and snide comments. Making you look none the better for it. Hell, you were making no distinction before this, you were speaking of feminism as one entity. Don't try to slate it over with "I only meant a part of it." That is not how it works. You were painting up all of Femmenism to be one thing you were apperently presenting. You by doing that, generalize. Words are important, meanings are conveyed differently from your mind.
That said, Anita is like everyone else, allowed her opinion on the matter. It is regretfull that she takes the side of Quinn, who has proven herself to be everything but a model human being in the way she treated the entire situation. I think a important part in this is to remember that the lass is human, and Is likely unable to comprehend just how fucked up things are around her due to her selfish, seemingly entirely self serving ways. I personally dislike the womans (Anitas) sensationalist vibe alot of the time, but if we want our lovely media to ever be taken seriusly we need people like her. Criticism, as stinging as it can be, is vital for any media. It is part of a artform and mediums growth. Anita, for all her faults, live a life full of death threats becouse gamers are a easily offended bunch. Imagine that, you critize something for a easily recognized pattern and WHAM, you are being called every terrible thing in the book and wished death upon. This is a far bigger problem then any third wave feminist (Not that I can with a straight face ever call Anita for one.) can ever provide. They (The Feminists) exist becouse people like those anonymous, degrading people exist.
And, despite her many, many flaws in her presenstation, Anita has improved alot. She still needs to open up for sensible debate however.
Hell I found myself agreeing to some of her points as of late.
Subverting my opinion to a rant and disregarding everything I wrote, without bringing up a single point of the entire argument? Atleast try to form a structured, logical approach and meet the criticism leveled against you. Instead you wave it off with cynisism and snide comments. Making you look none the better for it. Hell, you were making no distinction before this, you were speaking of feminism as one entity. Don't try to slate it over with "I only meant a part of it." That is not how it works. You were painting up all of Femmenism to be one thing you were apperently presenting. You by doing that, generalize. Words are important, meanings are conveyed differently from your mind.
That said, Anita is like everyone else, allowed her opinion on the matter. It is regretfull that she takes the side of Quinn, who has proven herself to be everything but a model human being in the way she treated the entire situation. I think a important part in this is to remember that the lass is human, and Is likely unable to comprehend just how fucked up things are around her due to her selfish, seemingly entirely self serving ways. I personally dislike the womans (Anitas) sensationalist vibe alot of the time, but if we want our lovely media to ever be taken seriusly we need people like her. Criticism, as stinging as it can be, is vital for any media. It is part of a artform and mediums growth. Anita, for all her faults, live a life full of death threats becouse gamers are a easily offended bunch. Imagine that, you critize something for a easily recognized pattern and WHAM, you are being called every terrible thing in the book and wished death upon. This is a far bigger problem then any third wave feminist (Not that I can with a straight face ever call Anita for one.) can ever provide. They (The Feminists) exist becouse people like those anonymous, degrading people exist.
And, despite her many, many flaws in her presenstation, Anita has improved alot. She still needs to open up for sensible debate however.
Hell I found myself agreeing to some of her points as of late.
Bumping this upp as we are having some now shows and have fresh spots to fill!
Hows people doing with those very late profiles? And posts?
Post should be up tommorow at latest
I like to on a personal note, have everyone realize how bad someone fucks up when we are in full agreement on something haha.
mdk said
You just described journalism! The difference being gaming doesn't mean a thing, in the grand scheme, so people don't feel bad about abusing the system for money. I imagine when most journalists do it they at least feel some moral dilemma the first couple of times.
This is true enough. Hence my ending statement of.
"For a fledgling industry, they have adopted the failings of the old news industry giants very quickly."
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