ciderI need to spell check my stuff I just noticed. I never once stated that it was the stance everyone took. I clearly states my intended target being those that:
1) Feel we should allow more physical confrontations.
2) Seem to think we shouldn't work against bullying and we should stay willfully ignorant to kids being picked on by their peers (see: Joricks rant about coddling kids and people being "entitled little shits.")
1 being incredibly counterproductive (and very in line with the whole Violence = Respect i linked to in the youtube clip.)
2 Being a cynical and downright ugly display of ignorance towards the terrible consequences bullying have on so many people. And this coming from a person who generally agree to alot things Jorick writes.
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I refuse to sugar coat it. If Jorick can make such a broad statement as calling anti-bullying campaigns bulsshit and say that we coddle our children, then I can state my point of few in equally colorful words. We are arguing on equal grounds here. TO say that bullying is positive, in any sort of way, is ignorant and cynical to such a degree it's insane. Growing a thicker skin from bullying is not worth it when you carry with you childhood trauma from it, when you have your empathetic link to other people irrevocably damaged from fear of being hurt.
Fun facts:
-- It is estimated that 160,000 children miss school every day due to fear of attack or intimidation by other students.
-- Suicide rates among 10 to 14-year-olds have grown more than 50 percent over the last three decades.
Fun facts:
-- It is estimated that 160,000 children miss school every day due to fear of attack or intimidation by other students.
-- Suicide rates among 10 to 14-year-olds have grown more than 50 percent over the last three decades.
I believe that self-defense is a fundamental right -- until the teacher or administrator that's supposed to break up the fights is there, you're on your own (and so is the bully, whether they know it or not.)
I am not arguing against his at all. If you are a person, in the situation where you have no other option but to fight back. Then you have to fight back. That much is simple, although the outcome is never easy to predict.
I was referring more to MDK's exceptionally ignorant statement that we should allow more physical altercations. I was more referring to the whole culture we build for ourselves when we force association between violence and respect. The very same psychological basis that is behind the Jock kicking around a scrawny kid etc. MDK made the argument that it should be allowed, that it was important for teaching how the world work. That is building on the status quo and if we had all adheared to that all the time things would look today the same it did 100 year ago. Progressive thinking, empathy and solidarity towards your fellow man and woman should be paramount. The point is that we should not allow bullying, in any form. Nothing good comes from it, at all. It causes deep emotional trauma in kids, it ruins lives and breeds alienation. You know who prey on alienated people? Criminal element. There is strong ties between people who perceive themselves as outcast from society and youths that end up on a criminal career path. Hell, the radical rightwings that been jumping immigrants and what not here, all were on the polices lists as juvie's, and pretty much all have issues with problems at school and feeling alienated. People who feel alienated, something that Bullying clearly causes, are exposed and easy target for pressure.
I am not arguing against his at all. If you are a person, in the situation where you have no other option but to fight back. Then you have to fight back. That much is simple, although the outcome is never easy to predict.
I was referring more to MDK's exceptionally ignorant statement that we should allow more physical altercations. I was more referring to the whole culture we build for ourselves when we force association between violence and respect. The very same psychological basis that is behind the Jock kicking around a scrawny kid etc. MDK made the argument that it should be allowed, that it was important for teaching how the world work. That is building on the status quo and if we had all adheared to that all the time things would look today the same it did 100 year ago. Progressive thinking, empathy and solidarity towards your fellow man and woman should be paramount. The point is that we should not allow bullying, in any form. Nothing good comes from it, at all. It causes deep emotional trauma in kids, it ruins lives and breeds alienation. You know who prey on alienated people? Criminal element. There is strong ties between people who perceive themselves as outcast from society and youths that end up on a criminal career path. Hell, the radical rightwings that been jumping immigrants and what not here, all were on the polices lists as juvie's, and pretty much all have issues with problems at school and feeling alienated. People who feel alienated, something that Bullying clearly causes, are exposed and easy target for pressure.
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The whole "we should'nt work against verbal bullying" theory is incredibly ignorant when put in perspective. Ignoring a bully is all fine nad well, i agree that you should try and make sure it doesn't get to you. But bullies rarely work alone, many of them are good at making the bullied a outcast from his or her peers. The incredibly cynicism in the statement of "we are coddling" our kids and that it's leading everyone to being "entitled little shits" is bullshit. You want to know who generally feel entitled in that regard, the ones that get away with being a bully, the people more fortunate. As someone who suffered some severe cases of bulliying, It triggered me into a case of severe depression. Severe depressive state at the age of 13, could you fine cynical gentlemen explain to me how that have helped me as a person? It hasn't, the scars many kids have to bear from bullying commonly lead to trends of resentment and alienation.
However, as stated. Bullies are generally people who are in a emotional slump, and they force it onto other. By finding these causes, you can work against bullying. By teaching things such as solidarity and working with kids in regards to make them more empathetic we can limit bullying. Society doesn't need bullying, it should be minimized, if we can save a single more child from living in fear of his peers it should be worth the effort. I feel that arguing against that is morally repugnant and detestable.
On the subject of telling people that they need to man up or that we should allow more physical confrontation. You guys are striving backwards, future generations is what will change the world. We need to teach them that physical violence and the whole hyper masculinity bullshit is bad.
However, as stated. Bullies are generally people who are in a emotional slump, and they force it onto other. By finding these causes, you can work against bullying. By teaching things such as solidarity and working with kids in regards to make them more empathetic we can limit bullying. Society doesn't need bullying, it should be minimized, if we can save a single more child from living in fear of his peers it should be worth the effort. I feel that arguing against that is morally repugnant and detestable.
On the subject of telling people that they need to man up or that we should allow more physical confrontation. You guys are striving backwards, future generations is what will change the world. We need to teach them that physical violence and the whole hyper masculinity bullshit is bad.
"Getting all upset with a depressed person for committing suicide is like being pissed off at someone for dying because they got mugged and stabbed multiple times and died in the hospital a couple weeks later. A person who becomes depressed or has other mental health issues causing suicidal thoughts is no more at fault than someone who gets mugged, and the hard truth is that sometimes all the medical help in the world isn't enough to save someone from a stab wound. It's even worse for mental health issues, because someone who was stabbed will always rush to get medical attention, but due to our fucked up societal views on mental illness tons of people who are depressed or have other issues don't seek help. They're walking around with what is essentially a mental stab wound and not seeking help due to a very reasonable fear of what people will think of them and say about them and how people will treat them for it, and those same people then have the gall to be upset with them when it ends in death. It's absurd. If I had to measure the balance of selfishness in the equation, I'd say the lesser weight definitely lies on the side of those who commit suicide. Those who decry and blame them are so much more selfish that it's not even a contest as far as I can see, and it's extremely hypocritical to boot"
Thank you for putting is so concisely. For a person to overcome the single most genetically hard coded instinct, to be able to override it you have to be pushed very, very far over the edge. That so many people even reach that point where suicide seems like a better option then life itself, is a collective failure of society. We as a collective, failed these people because as Jorrick stated: "It's even worse for mental health issues, because someone who was stabbed will always rush to get medical attention, but due to our fucked up societal views on mental illness tons of people who are depressed or have other issues don't seek help."
Thank you for putting is so concisely. For a person to overcome the single most genetically hard coded instinct, to be able to override it you have to be pushed very, very far over the edge. That so many people even reach that point where suicide seems like a better option then life itself, is a collective failure of society. We as a collective, failed these people because as Jorrick stated: "It's even worse for mental health issues, because someone who was stabbed will always rush to get medical attention, but due to our fucked up societal views on mental illness tons of people who are depressed or have other issues don't seek help."
Posted. Henry enters PANIC state.
Bitch slaps might be needed.
Straigh up sucker punch is also accepted. Boy needs to be calmed down.
Bitch slaps might be needed.
Straigh up sucker punch is also accepted. Boy needs to be calmed down.
Henry saw it all happen so fast. The centaur (Or was he a dryad. Henry wasn't a expert on greek styled Fair folk.) moved so infernally fast that Henry had to use every ounce of power to keep even pace. There was a pang of sympathetic pain bubbling within him as those antlers plunged trough the Nixie like a multi-pronged spear of death. But that very basic connection also warned him, the Nixie still had it's voice. And a nixie would not be above dragging out her death to lay one last curse or blast the hearing of her killer to kingdom come. The Näck was filled with something akin to rage and with a speed he didn't know he could muster, he blurred across the cavern floor like bullet and his hand clamped over the mouth of his kin. As he did he felt something run trough him like a spike of sudden energy and emotion. Cold hatred but also fear, disappointment and utter resignation at her fate. Nixies were evil and soulless by human standards. But they were also feeling things, just like Henry was. To bad their rivers had not opted to give them a moral compass the way his river had done Henry. The moment that split second of contemplation and emotional feedback died, Henry pulled at the womans head, and the force of the Centaurs charge did the rest. There was no snapping sound, but he could feel it as her neck twisted in a nasty way. She was already dead by the time she had faced a Dryad, but at least this way it was quicker.
As Henry felt her wilt and turn into puddle of rank, foul smelling water he could not contain the disgust he felt. He looked at it, eyes narrow and his nose stinging with the repugnant smell as he crouched over the puddle. He touched the water, and he could feel its surfaced creased, the oxygen in the water was slowly disappearing, like life was leaving it all together.
“I knew my kind always lacked love for mortals. But for them to get involved with Lupine politics.. And these two were as vile as they co-” He stopped himself as a name was mentioned. It was the Centaur who asked him about The Ice Lady and Henry had failed to overhear the interrogation from Atticus so the sudden question made him freeze in place. He simply stared at the other creature, the siren still as the grave before he looked over to Hoyle. When he spoke, his voice was strangely silent, quivering almost. “I told you... She would come for us” And then a year of not being able to sleep properly, to always feel like he was one step away from certein doom and the nagging ghost of past experiences came crashing onto the back of Henry like the world on Atlas shoulders. And the otherwise calm and collected Henry, explosed.
”You knew she was involved. Both of you knew!” As he spoke as anger started to well up. The look in his eyes was completely alien compared to before and his voice held no soothing tones or pleasant subtleties. Those blues was full of pain and terrible, pure rage. His eyes reached Atticus and they accused him for this, that much was clear. ”By the rivers Atticus! I spent a year in exile trying to rid myself of her sorcery and I spent my time so far removed from my rivers and place of power that I almost fucking died!” Henry was furious, livid and hurt. Furious that he was forced into the whims of the witch of a woman who already cost him everything once. Livid that he had let himself be led here in the dark. And hurt that neither Atticus or Hoyle had warned him before hand, when they knew fully well what that woman done to him in the past.
The images of a pale, Blackhaired woman bleeding to her death flashed before his eyes. A woman clad in ice and blue silk standing in the pool of blood. The Blue lady, The Ice lady. Ylva of The Frost has many names but to Henry it was all the same. The bane of his existence, the woman who cost him everything. He knew this day was gonna come, but if she had Nixies doing her bidding then she no longer had any need for a Näck like himself. Meaning she was going to simply proceed to dismantle his life again, hunt him and kill everything around him. And just how far had her reach extended that she even had Nixies doing her bidding. What kind of powers did she wield that the bastard in the Werewolves highest echelon do business with her? The thoughts were swivelling trough his head like a storm with no center, a chaotic breakdown of the essence that made Henry the sane, pleasant creature he usually was. When he finally looked up from the puddle at his feet his eyes fastened at Hoyle again. They were cold, fear and fury in a uneven mix behind the glistening, unnatural blue hues. He seemed to simmer down a little, but he looked none the less unpleasant.
“I told you, when I saved you a year ago.” His voice left his lips as a silent ominous and completely inhuman whisper. ”She won't stop until everyone is dead or subjugated.” His voice was eerily alike that of the Nixies he just helped kill. ”The Lady of Ice, Sovereign in the North, comes for all of us now, we killed her subjects, we stopped her plan. She takes it seriously and very personal. I hope you all are ready for a war, because the spawn of Niffleheim sure is. I have no doubt we just played into her plan with coming here. Well except for the good Doctor saving your sister Hoyle. That is gonna piss her off.”
Somewhere, in the back of his mind, the calm and collected part of him screemed at him to calm down. That the enemy was out there, not here. But the sired would not listen, not even when Atticus clealy had to deal with Siya, and the fact that there was still the matter of Hoyles sister. Henry was like a cornered animal.
As Henry felt her wilt and turn into puddle of rank, foul smelling water he could not contain the disgust he felt. He looked at it, eyes narrow and his nose stinging with the repugnant smell as he crouched over the puddle. He touched the water, and he could feel its surfaced creased, the oxygen in the water was slowly disappearing, like life was leaving it all together.
“I knew my kind always lacked love for mortals. But for them to get involved with Lupine politics.. And these two were as vile as they co-” He stopped himself as a name was mentioned. It was the Centaur who asked him about The Ice Lady and Henry had failed to overhear the interrogation from Atticus so the sudden question made him freeze in place. He simply stared at the other creature, the siren still as the grave before he looked over to Hoyle. When he spoke, his voice was strangely silent, quivering almost. “I told you... She would come for us” And then a year of not being able to sleep properly, to always feel like he was one step away from certein doom and the nagging ghost of past experiences came crashing onto the back of Henry like the world on Atlas shoulders. And the otherwise calm and collected Henry, explosed.
”You knew she was involved. Both of you knew!” As he spoke as anger started to well up. The look in his eyes was completely alien compared to before and his voice held no soothing tones or pleasant subtleties. Those blues was full of pain and terrible, pure rage. His eyes reached Atticus and they accused him for this, that much was clear. ”By the rivers Atticus! I spent a year in exile trying to rid myself of her sorcery and I spent my time so far removed from my rivers and place of power that I almost fucking died!” Henry was furious, livid and hurt. Furious that he was forced into the whims of the witch of a woman who already cost him everything once. Livid that he had let himself be led here in the dark. And hurt that neither Atticus or Hoyle had warned him before hand, when they knew fully well what that woman done to him in the past.
The images of a pale, Blackhaired woman bleeding to her death flashed before his eyes. A woman clad in ice and blue silk standing in the pool of blood. The Blue lady, The Ice lady. Ylva of The Frost has many names but to Henry it was all the same. The bane of his existence, the woman who cost him everything. He knew this day was gonna come, but if she had Nixies doing her bidding then she no longer had any need for a Näck like himself. Meaning she was going to simply proceed to dismantle his life again, hunt him and kill everything around him. And just how far had her reach extended that she even had Nixies doing her bidding. What kind of powers did she wield that the bastard in the Werewolves highest echelon do business with her? The thoughts were swivelling trough his head like a storm with no center, a chaotic breakdown of the essence that made Henry the sane, pleasant creature he usually was. When he finally looked up from the puddle at his feet his eyes fastened at Hoyle again. They were cold, fear and fury in a uneven mix behind the glistening, unnatural blue hues. He seemed to simmer down a little, but he looked none the less unpleasant.
“I told you, when I saved you a year ago.” His voice left his lips as a silent ominous and completely inhuman whisper. ”She won't stop until everyone is dead or subjugated.” His voice was eerily alike that of the Nixies he just helped kill. ”The Lady of Ice, Sovereign in the North, comes for all of us now, we killed her subjects, we stopped her plan. She takes it seriously and very personal. I hope you all are ready for a war, because the spawn of Niffleheim sure is. I have no doubt we just played into her plan with coming here. Well except for the good Doctor saving your sister Hoyle. That is gonna piss her off.”
Somewhere, in the back of his mind, the calm and collected part of him screemed at him to calm down. That the enemy was out there, not here. But the sired would not listen, not even when Atticus clealy had to deal with Siya, and the fact that there was still the matter of Hoyles sister. Henry was like a cornered animal.
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