MelonHead

Enduwin: Act 1 - The Dark Awaits

Bakk's response is looking tame by comparison.

It never serves to be the honourable one on a boat full of murderers and barbarians.

Arena FAQ/Advice

@MelonHead

Thanks so much, your answers are really thorough and helpful!

An unranked battle would be great. I'd be happy with the powered/low powered bracket, although I'm not familiar with vampires or werewolves specifically - my tastes tend towards medieval fantasy, sci-fi, superhero, etc. What kind of characters/setting would you want to have?

Edit: Just saw and read your cheatsheet, think it's an awesome resource.

@fourtimesnine

In unranked fights I prefer my fights to be conductive to a story, so I tend to insist on characters from roughly similar universes. If you have a character in mind I can find my best character to match them, or I could link you to my character deposit and you could pick a character from there you think you could match.

My character deposit http://www.roleplayerguild.com/topics/79934-people-trapped-in-a-giant-melon/ooc

Arena FAQ/Advice

Melons Arena Cheatsheet

Ye Olde Board of Tips and Tricks for the Arena

The Writing Side

1. Accuracy, thoroughness and coherency are your greatest weapons in the Arena, prettying these concepts up is difficult and comes with time. Try and ensure you’ve been accurate in your description of the scene, haven’t forgot to mention any important details, and most importantly read it through from your opponent’s point of view and made sure they can understand it.

2. KISS – The beauty of the T1 system is you don’t have to try and predict any number of an opponent’s moves and write out what if clauses for every eventuality. (Though you may want to pre-empt one or two moves to worry them.) Simply ensure that your character can logically pull out of a manoeuvre with a single statement of their actions if the unexpected ensues. For example, ‘John was ready to abandon his strike at his prone opponent if he instead made any sudden movements.’ Remember though, you only have so much time to work with, if you’re mid-swing it may already be too late.

The follow up to this is that in combat, the more moves you string together the greater the opportunity you're granting your opponent to interrupt and strike you at your most vulnerable. Try not to overcomplicate your post both for ease of reading, and also to keep your cards hidden and your character safe.

3. The CS is key, remember that what you throw into that CS and post in the introduction of a fight is all your character alone has to work with. If circumstances allow, you may be able to pick up one or two advantages from the scenery, but so can your opponent, so ensure your character is thoughtfully constructed and stick to that character throughout. Magic and abilities will be a major point of contention, so remember tip 1 in the construction and you’ll be alright, though a more complex CS construction walkthrough may appear in the future.

The Combat Side

At the risk of sounding condescending, these are some tips for actual combat I’ve picked up in my lengthy years (lol, 3) fighting in post-by-post. Many of these will be contentious, and yes, there’s probably a number of exceptions to every rule.

1. Match your character carefully, this means you should be aiming to fight opponents with a character roughly within your character’s limits. Remember, this is a beginner’s guide, and ensuring you get a beneficial match-up isn’t going to be possible in a tournament setting. Ultimately, avoid bringing a grounded melee character up against someone who can fly or attack effectively from range, because the experience will likely be frustrating and un-rewarding. Some may argue that this is a learning experience, but from what I’ve seen personally it always ends with an unsatisfactory fight.

2. Don’t Jump. No, literally, probably the most common mistake on which I’ve been fortunate enough to capitalise on a number of times (and seen capitalised on, I might add.) is people considering diving into the air (usually anime style) an effective move in combat. Unless your character can control themselves in the air (and change direction) this will probably end incredibly badly, and should be avoided at all costs. Keep both feet on the ground, you can move your body freely and dodge better. Ironically acrobatic ‘speedsters’ should particularly look to avoid jumping in the air, as they tend to be at their most vulnerable.

3. Be careful with melee combat, melee combat is by far the most difficult skill to master in writing combat, especially if you’re like me with scant access to swords and spears and people who know how to use them. Read up on some of the basics of real combat before trying to use a sword, it helps a lot. Fighting hand to hand is somewhat easier, but try to dissuade yourself from flashy movie style martial arts.

4. Don’t spin around. I’ve only ever made this mistake once and it caused me more heart ache than a sick puppy (and I actually had my character spinning to generate centrifugal force). Your opponent will capitalise on it, and without the power of meta-gaming at your fingertips most characters are going to be shit outta luck.

5. Treat the Arena and its combat like an even bigger Arena. No, seriously, this is a contentious point but I would generally recommend imagining every battle like a gladiatorial contest. You’re attempting to make real gritty combat entertaining, you know what Gladiators seldom did? Tried to stab their opponent in the face the moment the battle started. If you try for deadly attacks early into a fight your opponent is –highly- likely to find any excuse to avoid it. Honestly, as the fight tends to work on an honour system of give and take you should try and wear an opponent down before going for any killing blows.

OOC Shiz

1. First rule, be respectful to your opponents, and I mean this in IC as well. For some strange reason (and I’m sure I’ve been guilty of this in the past, though I’ve been working on it.) Arena denizens have a bad habit of insulting the person behind the character in fights. They know exactly what they’re doing, no one is fooled, if you find yourself typing ‘Couldn’t quite believe the stupidity of blocking that move with’ you’re probably not in character anymore. This is a fine line to tread, and may seem trivial, but I’ve seen some Arena fighters who other people (not me, I have authority issues) have called respected and experienced essentially come to verbal blows over this shit. Not even joking.

2. Arguments will happen. If it’s an unranked fight, try and look past the conflict and compromise for the greater good of both of your entertainment and enjoyment. If it’s ranked, seek a judge as soon as possible, an unbiased reading is the fairest and most effective way to clear up any issues. I’ve argued until my fingers have metaphorically bled, and honestly I have no idea why, this is the freaking internet. No one is likely to admit their wrong doing in a ranked Arena battle, so have a judge mediate.

Arena FAQ/Advice

It's also just occurred to me the FAQ thread doesn't even have a decent FAQ section, get on that Rilla, I feel like the same questions are being asked and answered.

Arena FAQ/Advice

Hi everyone! I'm new to the arena, so I don't really know how things work, and this seems like the best place to ask.

1. How exactly do you start/join/organize matches? I'm used to using Interest Checks, but I looked at a few and apparently that mostly goes on in the Chat and HQ threads. How does that work?

2. Do characters persist across roleplays? Again, I'm used to characters that are made for a specific RP, but a few things I've read here suggest otherwise.

3. Is there a place for story fights? That is, fights where the goal isn't for one character to win over another, but to write a story about the characters with the battle as part of the plot.

4. I'm sure I'll have more questions later, but for now, is anyone willing to RP with a newbie? Experience is the best teacher, after all.

@fourtimesnine

Hey there, yes this is the best place for these sort of questions.

1. There are two main methods, one is using an interest check to send out a general challenge (ideally with a character, an arena, and a fighting style mentioned so people know what they're getting into.) Then, once a compromise is made on character selection and everyone is happy, you can upgrade to an OOC/IC and get started. Oh, or if you simply want to join a fight you can look through interest checks and declare your interest in the normal fashion.

The second method is to send out a challenge in the ranked area or the Arena chat thread, which most of the ranked people tend to frequent. The same process as before will also take place, where you will decide on characters etc.

2. Completely up to you, the Arena does allow for multiple instances and therefore unless you've joined a specifically persistent world (the Multiverse for example, which pops up from time to time, or a tournament) every arena fight is a self contained story. So, if a character dies you don't have to make that 'canon.'

3. Hopefully every fight will be a story fight, it's a misconception that Arena isn't still predominantly about telling a story, it's just through the medium of battle. Still, if you favour strong story telling elements over the competition, avoiding ranked battles and going for unranked instead is the answer. In an unranked fight the rules are more flexible and with very little on the line people are going to be more applicable to story elements.

4. Depending on what sort of power (tier) you want to fight at I might be able to indulge you in an unranked battle to cover some of the broad Arena concepts if you want. Tier is a little subjective, but I personally don't stray over the 'high powered' bracket with my characters. Which is somewhat applicable to street/city level destruction. I'm more around the powered/low powered bracket, think Vampires, Werewolves, Cyborgs etc.

These are the two important threads for talking with Arena peoples.
Ranking Headquarters http://www.roleplayerguild.com/topics/79678-rpguild-ranking-headquarters/ic
Arena Chat Thread http://www.roleplayerguild.com/topics/78452-arena-chat-thread/ooc

Arena Chat Thread

I heard once that if a roaming black hole did wander into our solar system it would launch all the debris and asteroids nearby into the planets, destroying them before it even had to do anything.

I don't really get space very much, we have a complicated relationship.

The Arena Wars - Xenom invades! - Wave 1

The separate thread takes place in the same setting. You are not fighting in a vacuum.

Also, if I am to be tapped as a judge for resolving issues that then takes me out of the war. I don't mind, but I was looking forward to getting into this somewhere along the way.

@Skallagrim

I don't mind judging some stuff it it means you'll get involved, as this is mostly above the tier level I'm interested in fighting in anyway I wasn't planning to participate.

The God-Killer vs The Baron

Rulings? I'm not making any rulings. And a Judge shouldn't be needed unless LeeRoy for some reason really does thing I'm wrong. Otherwise it should be discussed amongst ourselves. If he thinks I'm wrong, grab Skalla or another experienced fighter. They will simply tell you the exact same thing I am saying o.o

@Seed

You require a judge for the fight to be legitimate for ranking, those are the rules.

The God-Killer vs The Baron

Where's the judge for this fight? Seed shouldn't be making rulings for himself in his own fight.

Otherwise this isn't ranked, and should be removed from ranking immediately.

The God-Killer vs The Baron

That is not quite right. Momentum= mass x velocity. So a smaller mass moving at greater velocity can have the same momentum as a slower velocity larger mass object.

@Skallagrim

LeeRoy is right in the sense that at the same velocity (MPH) the train has greater momentum though. So what Seed is ultimately arguing is that his character so outclasses LeeRoy's in terms of the ability to produce velocity that he can overcome his extreme mass disadvantage. I'm not sure if the sheets actually substantiate this claim, but it is what he's saying.

Also I have no idea why I'm here, except that I felt your assertion that LeeRoy was about to be 'heavily corrected' was a bit pre-emptive. Also LeeRoy is still technically representing the Arena in an OOC sense, so I'm obviously in his corner.

I'll head off now.