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Anyway, I'll post today or tomorrow in light of the changes. Can't say it gives me much hope that attacks that are landing are having such insignificant effects, but such is life.
That's another thing I don't really get, why do you keep saying the spear is between his legs? It was caught on the left side of his body, surely it's only cutting his left foot on the outside?
You'd think so, but usually when someone writes something they write it because they're certain it will work. So confronting someone on something they're sure of is pretty difficult, it's like how often do you think you've managed to debate someone successfully enough to change their opinion on something? It's hard as hell. Judging from a third party is just fairer and takes the bite out of OOC arguments and whatnot.
No worries LeeRoy, our Heavy Hitters fight sat on hiatus for months anyway so if and when you return I'll happily pick it back up if you wish.
The weights are pretty much the crux of my argument, another debilitating factor is that the shield is also exceedingly heavy, (it should definitely be heavier than 15 pounds that you state, but 15 pounds is still weighty.) so gravity would actually be against you in trying to stop the downwards momentum of the sword strike.

I'm happy to accept that either she suffers some form of fracture (weakening the wrist/arm) or the blade cuts through the armour but only enough to cause a pretty painful bleeding wound, not enough to completely disable the forearm/wrist but enough that the damage is felt.

I'll happily accept some burning, though I don't believe the blade could be moved fast enough to cut because of the pivot coupled with the burning factor it may make it through the tough leather of the boot to burn the skin (I've watched some videos on test cuts, you'd be surprised the difference something as seemingly weak as cloth makes on a cut, tough leather would probably be ample protection if the blade wasn't magic) though it would only be a surface wound IMO and not nearly as debilitating as the longsword strike.

Also, for an object like Hyperion, 15 pounds would still be a serious amount of weight. An ordinary spear is what, around 2-3kg at most? If you're looking at three times the weight of a wooden spear roughly that would be an exceedingly difficult weapon to swing.

Dunno, is that a fair trade-off? Pollen, Chimera?
Anyway, I don't want to influence Pollen's interpretation anymore, so I'll see what they say and come back to this tomorrow.
You keep mentioning pivoting, but you only bothered to actually mention it in the most recent post. Everything that has happened before that post has been under the assumption there was no pivoting, you don't even mention the right side of her body in the previous post.
The blade literally hasn't breached Sigurd's guard though, I just explained how that would be impossible at the current proximity due to the length of the weapon. The fact that you just said you thought the weapon was six feet long and yet it's clearly labelled as eight feet long in the CS proves your misinterpreting the situation.

I'll happily ask Drifting Pollen to interpret the situation, honestly I can only assume I must be misreading it somehow because it's literally impossible in my mind unless your character has inhuman strength, which I'm starting to assume she must have considering she outpaced Sigurd's sword strike with a fifteen pound shield.

At first, I was confused as to your character's intent with the spear. You mentioned trying to tangle up Sigurd's feet, only in the most recent post did that transfer into cutting straight through his boots and severing tendons.

'Its blade is six feet long, its handle two,' so it's eight feet long.

What you'd be talking about then would be a push cut, which would only be possible if you could actually push the blade. Last I checked the end of the spear was dragging along the ground, when in actuality for this angle to be plausible it would actually have to be about two feet into the ground.

Finally, your character is pivoting away on their right foot, which is certainly conductive to retracting the spear, but not at all useful in a push cut or a sweep. A pull cut might have been possible, though once again the angle would be a massive hindrance as you're targeting an immensely low point on Sigurd's body to try and bypass the shield and Sigurd is extremely close to your character.

Ultimately, unless you're arguing your weapon has lightsaber like qualities it's not going to have sufficient force to do anything, provided it could even be manipulated into getting under Sigurd's shield, which is highly unlikely (as it is not idling as you say, but actually covering his left side while opening space for him to move his sword around.)

Also, Sigurd really wasn't relying on anything, there is literally no historical precedent ever of a spear being used in that fashion in a harmful way, except for its heat magic which Sigurd is still unaware of. And a spear would be immensely more manoeuvrable than an eight foot lance. Does your character have superstrength after all? If that's the case I'd buy it, if not its humanly impossible, or at least highly improbable.
Your character's spear sweep isn't actually possible, at least not the way you've written it. Sigurd is three feet away, the handle is two feet long, unless Iolanthe is literally holding her arm fully extended downwards there is no way the foot of steel past the handle can be under Sigurd's shield menacing his feet unless the five foot of steel behind it were actually plunged into the ground. -Unless- she is holding the spear behind her body, in which case I really don't think it would be possible to generate any power in a sweep.

Regardless, I highly doubt a sweep of this kind would be possible with human strength, and if it were it definitely wouldn't be cutting straight through leather boots and severing tendons. You can ask Pollen for a ruling if you want, but from my understanding of how you've written the scene it doesn't make sense.

Also bearing in mind Sigurd is still basically off to her left, leaving literally no wind-up room for the lance in the first place. I don't have an eight foot pole and a tall person with a shield to visualise it, but I highly doubt its physically possible.

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