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Yog, I'll ask you not to use images in such a way because they appear rude and flippant. This thread is for measured discussion.
Raineh, I'm sorry you feel that way but I urge you to reconsider. You know me to be someone that takes my player's thoughts and concerns to heart and I have. I admit that I have gone overboard but you have my assurances this is lesson to me for the future and I will state again that things will be more easier in the future and that not everything will be focused on fighting. Your character is more suited for the stealth missions and support details that I have talked about and isn't the best suited for a fight anyway. In that sense, I ask you to give myself and the RP a second chance.
Are the PCs supposed to be the focus? Yes. But that doesn't mean it should be easy . The whole point is that the PCs are supposed to suffer and get better and become the A-Listers that the trainers and the founders are. Stories are about rising to the challenge and learning and getting stronger and better. And yes some of the PCs are experienced but the majority aren't. Volt, Sonja, Hot Rod, Gabriel and Strix are old hands but everyone else is a comparable novice to fighting villains. And yes the trainers shrug off hits, but they don't do it nearly as much as you say. There was a time when everyone but three people were down for what amounted to several minutes in-game. And like I said before, they're used to taking a beating besides the fact that the ones who take most of the damage were already durable in the first place.
And to put it another way sometimes saving the day isn't fighting all the aliens and blowing them up. Sometimes saving the day is taking care of the doomsday device, protecting the President's daughter, or finding the cure for the zombie plague. There are times when firepower will be needed and the NPCs are there in the background to help. But there are times when you have to do things on the sly when everyone else is fighting. Less obvious roles, but still important ones.
When you're training someone to be a Navy Seal or something like that, the people training you are going to be more experienced, skilled, and yes probably better in every way. But the trainees aren't useless because of that. They're trainees because they are going to become the uber-badasses that their teachers are. And furthermore, individually the trainers are pretty tough but their real strength comes from teamwork. The trainers are a formidable threat because they work together and support each other. And the trainees didn't do that nearly as much. Instead they trade barbs and rush head-on into situations most of the time. When Strix makes a plan, he manages to beat back the trainers almost every damn time and that's because he uses teamwork. The RP is a team effort. Every character, big or small, supports the general effort. Not all of them are supposed to be lone supermen.
That's my thought process but I do see how the training mission was losing it's fun and I fully apologize for all the inconvenience and frustration it caused and I will keep this in mind while I GM. But I seriously don't want this to spiral downward again, so please keep this civil. And I thank you all for your thoughts and concerns. Like I said before the training mission won't be matched in difficulty for quite a while.
And to put it another way sometimes saving the day isn't fighting all the aliens and blowing them up. Sometimes saving the day is taking care of the doomsday device, protecting the President's daughter, or finding the cure for the zombie plague. There are times when firepower will be needed and the NPCs are there in the background to help. But there are times when you have to do things on the sly when everyone else is fighting. Less obvious roles, but still important ones.
When you're training someone to be a Navy Seal or something like that, the people training you are going to be more experienced, skilled, and yes probably better in every way. But the trainees aren't useless because of that. They're trainees because they are going to become the uber-badasses that their teachers are. And furthermore, individually the trainers are pretty tough but their real strength comes from teamwork. The trainers are a formidable threat because they work together and support each other. And the trainees didn't do that nearly as much. Instead they trade barbs and rush head-on into situations most of the time. When Strix makes a plan, he manages to beat back the trainers almost every damn time and that's because he uses teamwork. The RP is a team effort. Every character, big or small, supports the general effort. Not all of them are supposed to be lone supermen.
That's my thought process but I do see how the training mission was losing it's fun and I fully apologize for all the inconvenience and frustration it caused and I will keep this in mind while I GM. But I seriously don't want this to spiral downward again, so please keep this civil. And I thank you all for your thoughts and concerns. Like I said before the training mission won't be matched in difficulty for quite a while.
The members already in the League are a few dozen, the whole roster including support staff is perhaps a few hundred at the start of the RP. The League is meant to keep the peace in a vast country of hundreds of millions and eventually the whole world and beyond. Trust me, the PCs will get their fair share of the action and even more. Because in real missions crippling injuries and even death can happen and the most powerful might not always be there. And there's more to fighting villains than fighting them all-out in broad daylight. There are infiltration missions. Investigations. Things that require subtlety and sneaking around and not just smashing stuff. Besides almost everyone chose to play 'C-Listers" of their own volition, most of the PCs are small-time amateurs because they were created by their players that way. It's no action of mine that makes them that way. And everyone loves underdog stories anyway :P
Excessive? Perhaps, but Pariah doesn't believe in half-measures.
But none of them were really at serious risk. All of the henchmen had non-lethal weapons and the majority of the trainers weren't even using their powers to their full extent. Pray tell, was it ever actually confirmed by Strix that Phantasm was telling the truth about having live rounds? And none of the trainers used more powerful attacks on the weaker members, punching bags like Furious and Changeling could take a lot of damage and bounce back.
Or if they did like Ember, they knew how to pull their punches. Ember is a pyrokinetic of the highest order, fire is her in a sense. She can turn into fire and she bends it to her will, if she was really trying almost none of her shots would have missed. But she made her blasts slow and obvious to dodge not at all like a flamethrower. And since her fire is a part of her and is an extension of her will she would know if she went too far. If you really thought about it, they all pulled their punches, with their numbers, experience, skills, and powers they could have crippled and maimed everyone before they got anywhere near the fight. Or killed them deader than dead.
And lastly they're right dab smack in the middle of the Hall of Justice where basically every member knows at least how to deal with basic first aid and battlefield injury with access to world-class medical facilities and even full-blown magical healers. There were no injuries inflicted or even potential injuries that couldn't have been fixed with enough time. So really this is nowhere near what the heroes will face when they come up against the serious villains. It's a taste of the kind of ferocity, skill, and power they will face and seeks to prepare them for it. And as such it is a training mission.
But none of them were really at serious risk. All of the henchmen had non-lethal weapons and the majority of the trainers weren't even using their powers to their full extent. Pray tell, was it ever actually confirmed by Strix that Phantasm was telling the truth about having live rounds? And none of the trainers used more powerful attacks on the weaker members, punching bags like Furious and Changeling could take a lot of damage and bounce back.
Or if they did like Ember, they knew how to pull their punches. Ember is a pyrokinetic of the highest order, fire is her in a sense. She can turn into fire and she bends it to her will, if she was really trying almost none of her shots would have missed. But she made her blasts slow and obvious to dodge not at all like a flamethrower. And since her fire is a part of her and is an extension of her will she would know if she went too far. If you really thought about it, they all pulled their punches, with their numbers, experience, skills, and powers they could have crippled and maimed everyone before they got anywhere near the fight. Or killed them deader than dead.
And lastly they're right dab smack in the middle of the Hall of Justice where basically every member knows at least how to deal with basic first aid and battlefield injury with access to world-class medical facilities and even full-blown magical healers. There were no injuries inflicted or even potential injuries that couldn't have been fixed with enough time. So really this is nowhere near what the heroes will face when they come up against the serious villains. It's a taste of the kind of ferocity, skill, and power they will face and seeks to prepare them for it. And as such it is a training mission.
Well arguing in the sense that Hot Rod rose to Charlotte's barb and responded. In any case taking too much time to talk is a bad idea.
Sometimes talking isn't a free action.
And perhaps Phantom could help the situation here finally :P
And perhaps Phantom could help the situation here finally :P
"The Awakening has revolutionized warfare, that is a fact. Savant-type superhumans with technical prowess routinely churn out advances in drones, exoskeletons, weapons, vehicles and more that were decades away before the Awakening. Sorcerers and Psychics allow us to command troops, oversee operations, and scout out the field of battle in a more efficient and reliable manner than ever before. Flyers of all kinds give us aerial recon and support capabilities on an unprecedented scale. Ghosts, Shadows, and Chameleons, have provided actionable intelligence to an astonishing degree. Gate and Flash Teleporters can transport men, munitions, and supplies faster than we ever could before. Astrokenetics can change the weather to favor us while Chlorokinetics raise food supplies. Technopaths have made Military communications and data safe from enemy interference. Elementals and Blasters provide firepower to match armored divisions while Zenith-types are basically one man armies. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. The Awakening changed the way the Military has done things in supply, transport, communications, intelligence, strategy and much much more. It has opened countless new options to conduct war on land, on the sea, in the air, in cyberspace, and even in magic and the very minds of men. Simply put brave, experienced, skilled, and loyal supersoldiers have assured the place of the United States of America as the world's most dominant military power. Our friends abroad, both legitimate governments and insurgents, have also made use of Superhuman firepower, but the SOC stands ready to defend our nation." - Colonel George B. Lincoln, codename "Centurion", commandant of the Superhuman Operations Corps.
Rainmaker's Team
Rainmaker looked at Gabriel, "We're not leaving all up to the CPD but it would be best to have their assistance in this investigations. Besides, Olympia's suspects were teleported out and left no physical trace, the only leads we have right now are these boys here. And their connection with the Outfit." With that Rainmaker turned and headed back to the VTOL her team in tow.
Pariah's victims
Chrome screamed in sudden pain as Furious's grip tightened on his metal ankle, the youth's enhanced strength managing to indent even his steel hide. Chrome wrenched his ankle from Furious's hand, cracking the bones even further. He delivered a kick with his damaged limb that would hopefully knock the weakened Furious out of the fight. Then he picked the teenager up by mainstrength and flung him away down the street. Chrome winced and shifted his weight to favor his uninjured side. The ankle was still mostly intact but he did not want to risk further damage. He readied himself for another attack as best as he could.
Changeling's direct assault on not one but two experienced and deadly superheroes with no backup went about as well as could be expected. In a word, horribly. Changeling had loosed his arrows with strength beyond a normal human. Strength to tear clean through flesh and shatter bone. But Bulwark was no normal human. Bulwark saw the arrow and let it strike him in the knee, the arrow broke against his durable skin, skin tough enough to laugh off assault weapon fire and withstand even grenade and rocket explosions. Ember hadn't tried to dodge either. She flung an intense beam of fire that burn the arrow apart before it ever hit her.
The two looked at each other and Bulwark flung his mighty hammer from one side while Ember sent a fireball from the other side. Faerie that he was he may have not been as effected by fire as a human but his skin burned all the same. Bulwark's hammer, with it's speed, flung by superstrong force, and so heavy no normal man could lift it, would almost certainly take Changeling out of the fight should it strike him. Either way being hit by one of both attacks would be a very bad thing. If he survived a tactical withdrawal might have been the best course of action. Especially since attacking the pair of them put him near the rest of their team and who, if they had been real terrorists, would rip Changeling apart with their combined power. Nonetheless, if he managed to raise their attention his chances of finishing without serious injury would plumment.
Strix's arrival turned the tide. Bastion had seen the bomb coming and assumed the worse turning her shield opaque and sealed against sight and sound, her shield holding steady against the explosion. Her teammates did not fare as well. His cryo bombs managed to freeze Extrusion up again and Apogee broke free. She crushed the now mostly immobile elastic man into a ball and kicked him all the way back down the street where he bowled over a squad of henchmen as well as conveniently smothering a portion of the flame that entrapped Morph.
He instantly turned back into his blob form and started wreaking havoc on the enemy along with other heroes who had gotten back on their feet, such as Oni, Warp, Eclipse, Belladonna, and the giant Nuetro. Shocker, Frost, Adamant and Aquamarine were forced to combat them and for the moment the two forces were on equal standing though it could not last as the trainer's henchmen were still there in force. Without support the heroes would probably last several minutes before being defeated again, their chances would be even lower if Bulwark and Ember rejoined them especially since the latter could free Extrusion from his icy bondage.
Strix's assault on Colossus was similarly effective. Colossus had managed to see it coming but was much to large to dodge. He did what any man would do and hunched over with his hands over his groin, protecting that most tender and vital part of the male anatomy. But that only presented an easier target as the electric attacks shocked him and he screamed in pain. His scream was enough to rattle eardrums and break the windows of every nearby car. It was silenced by Bullseyes concussive arrow that knocked him onto his gigantic back. Bullseye fired gas and web arrows to make sure the giant stayed down. Now free the team all turned their attention to Bastion and focused their attacks.
The barrier shook and shuddered but Bastion never saw the punch that would send Bastion's sphere flying through a nearby building and into the wall of the training room. Bastion had been flung around like inside her durable sphere and when her barrier hit the wall, it flickered out of existence as she blacked out and hit the floor. The barrier around the bus flickered out of existence as well. Gunmen had rifles trained on the heroes from inside the bus and a man stood in the doorway, holding a detonator up along with a raised pistol, his thumb hovered over the button, "Stay back or I blow this bus with everyone on it! Anyone make any move and these people are all dead! I guarantee you that I can push this button faster than anything you can do." Apogee and her team froze in place. Up until now momentum and speed had been the team's greatest advantage and that momentum had been robbed.
In the field of battle seconds can mean an eternity and any pause could spell death. As it was having a heated argument in the middle of a pitched battle was not the best of ideas. In fact it was only marginally less of a horrible idea than facing the enemy with eyes closed and hands behind the back while hopping on one foot. While the trio of heroes argued inanely they managed to attract the attention of Adamant and Sentinel. Sentinel started flying at them. The telekinetic was more formidable than any one of them singularly and probably all of them combined and lingering was an even more horrible idea than arguing mid-battle.
Rainmaker's Team
Rainmaker looked at Gabriel, "We're not leaving all up to the CPD but it would be best to have their assistance in this investigations. Besides, Olympia's suspects were teleported out and left no physical trace, the only leads we have right now are these boys here. And their connection with the Outfit." With that Rainmaker turned and headed back to the VTOL her team in tow.
Pariah's victims
Chrome screamed in sudden pain as Furious's grip tightened on his metal ankle, the youth's enhanced strength managing to indent even his steel hide. Chrome wrenched his ankle from Furious's hand, cracking the bones even further. He delivered a kick with his damaged limb that would hopefully knock the weakened Furious out of the fight. Then he picked the teenager up by mainstrength and flung him away down the street. Chrome winced and shifted his weight to favor his uninjured side. The ankle was still mostly intact but he did not want to risk further damage. He readied himself for another attack as best as he could.
Changeling's direct assault on not one but two experienced and deadly superheroes with no backup went about as well as could be expected. In a word, horribly. Changeling had loosed his arrows with strength beyond a normal human. Strength to tear clean through flesh and shatter bone. But Bulwark was no normal human. Bulwark saw the arrow and let it strike him in the knee, the arrow broke against his durable skin, skin tough enough to laugh off assault weapon fire and withstand even grenade and rocket explosions. Ember hadn't tried to dodge either. She flung an intense beam of fire that burn the arrow apart before it ever hit her.
The two looked at each other and Bulwark flung his mighty hammer from one side while Ember sent a fireball from the other side. Faerie that he was he may have not been as effected by fire as a human but his skin burned all the same. Bulwark's hammer, with it's speed, flung by superstrong force, and so heavy no normal man could lift it, would almost certainly take Changeling out of the fight should it strike him. Either way being hit by one of both attacks would be a very bad thing. If he survived a tactical withdrawal might have been the best course of action. Especially since attacking the pair of them put him near the rest of their team and who, if they had been real terrorists, would rip Changeling apart with their combined power. Nonetheless, if he managed to raise their attention his chances of finishing without serious injury would plumment.
Strix's arrival turned the tide. Bastion had seen the bomb coming and assumed the worse turning her shield opaque and sealed against sight and sound, her shield holding steady against the explosion. Her teammates did not fare as well. His cryo bombs managed to freeze Extrusion up again and Apogee broke free. She crushed the now mostly immobile elastic man into a ball and kicked him all the way back down the street where he bowled over a squad of henchmen as well as conveniently smothering a portion of the flame that entrapped Morph.
He instantly turned back into his blob form and started wreaking havoc on the enemy along with other heroes who had gotten back on their feet, such as Oni, Warp, Eclipse, Belladonna, and the giant Nuetro. Shocker, Frost, Adamant and Aquamarine were forced to combat them and for the moment the two forces were on equal standing though it could not last as the trainer's henchmen were still there in force. Without support the heroes would probably last several minutes before being defeated again, their chances would be even lower if Bulwark and Ember rejoined them especially since the latter could free Extrusion from his icy bondage.
Strix's assault on Colossus was similarly effective. Colossus had managed to see it coming but was much to large to dodge. He did what any man would do and hunched over with his hands over his groin, protecting that most tender and vital part of the male anatomy. But that only presented an easier target as the electric attacks shocked him and he screamed in pain. His scream was enough to rattle eardrums and break the windows of every nearby car. It was silenced by Bullseyes concussive arrow that knocked him onto his gigantic back. Bullseye fired gas and web arrows to make sure the giant stayed down. Now free the team all turned their attention to Bastion and focused their attacks.
The barrier shook and shuddered but Bastion never saw the punch that would send Bastion's sphere flying through a nearby building and into the wall of the training room. Bastion had been flung around like inside her durable sphere and when her barrier hit the wall, it flickered out of existence as she blacked out and hit the floor. The barrier around the bus flickered out of existence as well. Gunmen had rifles trained on the heroes from inside the bus and a man stood in the doorway, holding a detonator up along with a raised pistol, his thumb hovered over the button, "Stay back or I blow this bus with everyone on it! Anyone make any move and these people are all dead! I guarantee you that I can push this button faster than anything you can do." Apogee and her team froze in place. Up until now momentum and speed had been the team's greatest advantage and that momentum had been robbed.
In the field of battle seconds can mean an eternity and any pause could spell death. As it was having a heated argument in the middle of a pitched battle was not the best of ideas. In fact it was only marginally less of a horrible idea than facing the enemy with eyes closed and hands behind the back while hopping on one foot. While the trio of heroes argued inanely they managed to attract the attention of Adamant and Sentinel. Sentinel started flying at them. The telekinetic was more formidable than any one of them singularly and probably all of them combined and lingering was an even more horrible idea than arguing mid-battle.
Vita, Ah so it all works out
Yog, If you wish but you'll have to amend your intro post cause otherwise Hot Rod looks like he's late and lazy.
Raineh, Perhaps but IC the decision will probably earn her some flak. The majority of the trainers were down for several posts, a few get up quicker, the players have simply failed to take the initiative. The trainers are all seasoned heroes, used to taking hits. And you aren't supposed to give lethal damage or take a fall it was never said that anyone should pull their punches short of killing someone.
Yog, If you wish but you'll have to amend your intro post cause otherwise Hot Rod looks like he's late and lazy.
Raineh, Perhaps but IC the decision will probably earn her some flak. The majority of the trainers were down for several posts, a few get up quicker, the players have simply failed to take the initiative. The trainers are all seasoned heroes, used to taking hits. And you aren't supposed to give lethal damage or take a fall it was never said that anyone should pull their punches short of killing someone.
Dblade, Of course!
Vita, I'm very sorry to hear that. I'll retain control of your characters, but the door is open for you.
I'll assume control of all inactive accepted characters. Inactive meaning I haven't seen you for two months.
Vita, I'm very sorry to hear that. I'll retain control of your characters, but the door is open for you.
I'll assume control of all inactive accepted characters. Inactive meaning I haven't seen you for two months.
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