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Danish is supposed to hard to learn? Both of the Estonians who speak fluent Danish I know (and one of them speaks both Danish and Swedish) have at some point stated that they found the language rather easy to learn... Oppositely, Estonian is supposed to be (have seen it cited as such in plenty of places) a very hard language to learn, and the person who lived/studied in Denmark for a while and has a Danish husband commented that it was absolute hell for him [the husband; they live in Estonia] to learn Estonian ... and that her first name literally turned into Kh'ht for the duration of her stay, since Danes apparently cannot pronounce any but the first and last letter of it. Whether it was a doctor's appointment or anything else, whenever she saw someone staring at a name with an utterly exasperated expression, she knew it was her. (Except once, when there apparently was a person with a just as odd name.) And English-speakers typically find the Estonian grammar hard to get accustomed and pronunciation ... will stay extremely strongly accented for a long time, to say the least. Have heard plenty of frankly rather horrible-sounding accents of my own language over time.
- How difficult a language will be to learn tends to very heavily rely on what language-space one is from, I've noticed. So what might be fairly hard to learn for someone from the Germanic branch might not be so for the Finno-Ugric branch, and perhaps even more arduous for one of the Slavic people to pick up, for instance.
Oddly enough, Hungarians can speak Estonian almost accent-free, even when they have never seen the language before and you just give them a page with Estonian text on it, and ask them to read it aloud. I have personally tested this. Which is odd, since the languages do not look or sound anything alike (there were four words total which were the exact same, and some we found that sound slightly similar? If either looks at a text written in another, or hears them speak, nothing at all would be understood). But I guess the languages are related, after all... Then again, with a Finnish person speaking Estonian and vice versa, there usually is an accent (when both are speaking English, the accent is somewhat alike, though you can still fairly easily tell one from another). And Finnish and Estonian are extremely close (well, Finnish will generally sound almost indistinguishable from some South-Estonian dialects when the person can speak neither), to the point you can compose entire sentences which are almost the same with only very minor differences in spelling and pronunciation. Perhaps just a conjugation or two... Of course, there are some words which look exactly the same, but mean different things, so if you went word-lending between the two too liberally you could end up saying something really stupid.
- Uhh, and I am a silly foreigner, so I first identify an accent as Scandinavian and then typically either Swedish or non-Swedish. From the two Danes I had to work together for a while - both of them very very fluent in English, though, so the accent was perhaps not as apparent? - I'd still put the accent far closer to Swedish than German. I never even made the association with German accent, and I have heard German accent in English *a lot*. ...I still can't make the association with German accents. Norweigan and Danish are very easy to tell apart when I hear them spoken, though, and I don't exactly understand much of either (well, I won't understand anything that isn't a lend or doesn't look like Swedish - and admittedly it is far easier with text than spoken word). I have picked up the understanding of some Swedish from being around it (if you recall, one of my aunts has a Swedish husband; they have residences in both countries ... all of my aunts have foreign husbands, actually), but I haven't really as much as tried to speak it aside of common pleasantries. As far as I can tell, I am trying to assign it the same unique-to-me accent I use with English and eh ... with the specific pronunciation-patterns I can only conclude it would sound truly weird if I went with it. (Ironically, with all the talk of my odd English accent, I appear to have opted to go with some some Australian-tinted UK English accent instead the past couple of days.)
(I wasn't wondering what you sounded like because I was wondering what Danish accent sounded like. Mostly I was just curious whether the accent you personally speak in with English comes across as unusual to me as it apparently is to others, or whether it might actually resemble something to me.)
@Nessa: Uhh... Thaler was wearing absolutely nothing else but Aemoten's coat, so she is now completely and utterly naked (or would be, if someone doesn't realize what she is doing and stop her)?
Haven't really have had anyone comment on my Estonian (I can speak a dialect, though, if I want), or any other language besides English... But with my English I've gotten the "where are you from?" quite often (curiously enough, with my US accent have also been often asked - including by actual Americans - where in the US am I from more specifically). - If I go switching between accents, it is mostly between English/Australian/US English, rather than me mixing (the accents/pronunciations of) multiple languages. The language-space specific accents just haven't been a strong enough influence, I think (though I won't deny I might still subconsciously try to mimic them if I talk to the people for a while ... just haven't really noticed it myself).
To my recollection I have never actually unintentionally switched between two languages mid-sentence (not even very similar ones, such as Finnish and Estonian), and if I do it intentionally it feels ... wrong. This is also why I, for example, tell people to go with the English, not Estonian spelling of my first name when they are currently speaking to me in English. I have started a sentence in my native when the language in use is something else a couple of times, but it has always been when I am not actually paying attention to the conversation (and therefore it has also almost exclusively been the Estonian for "Ah, what?").
- And now I am curious about what you actually sound like, seeing I haven't really heard you speak other than but a couple of sentences all the way back (VC times, and not the last year of such either) - and then you were speaking fairly quietly because other people were already being bothered by you loudly talking to yourself at night (also the reason why you left rather quickly). I should be familiar enough with the Swedish accent at least; Danish one not so much, since I don't have quarter as many reference points. I don't think those two are all that different, though I know at least one person who can tell them apart by hearing.

@Nessa: - ?
Hrm... I'll note it down so I would remember to locate the line wherein it was mentioned.

- I found it somewhat interesting that your last IC post would mention accents ... the one I myself most commonly use when speaking English (my, eh, performance-accent? the one I also use when addressing an audience?) is apparently strange. One of the people taking the verbal part of my English exam back in the day commented that it was interesting, and added that it was somehow very easy to understand, but he had never heard something quite like that. (It might have somewhat changed after that, though, since it's been a while. Accents do change over time, and quite a lot.)
Else I tend to just match my accent with the people I am currently speaking to ... and sometimes my brain gets confused (especially if there are several nationalities together, or I am dealing with something in another language on the side) and then I may pronounce the same word in one way in one sentence, and in another in the next.
Dark Jack said Though I really am wondering whether there is any real purpose to separating the collab from the rest of the RP since the lower post-quality and faster posting we anticipated isn't really showing that much.
I think there is a purpose in the sense that it helps keep the IC a bit cleaner... As it is, there are only two locations the IC keeps jumping between, whereas the collab-part would add a third one... Whereas once we're in Zerul, it would be back to two groups, rather than three or more.

Dark Jack said It would perhaps be more accurate to say that they are mutually dependent on it.
Compete over? (At least this is the term that comes to mind when you mention resources such as light and water.)

- And yes, you have referenced mortal magic causing decay, in the novel at least... Why I brought the topic up is exactly because you cannot do it by an external means. You can break the body indirectly, but even that won't make it decay faster ... would work just as any injury. So unless you introduced some body-unnatural chemical or somehow turned the normally benign bacteria murderous (would once more require nonmortal magic?)... Radiation poisoning might look slightly similar? Wouldn't still find them exactly decayed. Eh...

(There are other things which I'll probably PM later. Now I shall wander off to deal a bit more with bureaucracy. Oeh...)
I may be interested in this still; as you might recall I was writing up a character back in the day, if and by any chance you should find her acceptable, I'd be in.
Hmm... I believe I indeed see about the deities' perception of good and evil, about about the process of becoming an angel of demon. That was a good explanation, for both of those questions.
(I imagine the original - very first - mortals were a bit less diverse in their beliefs than nowadays' mortals, too, due to being formed directly by the spirits according to their respective perceptions? How diverse you imagine Reniam in general to be? You made a couple of fairly strong statements about how the 'civilized races' would perceive something where I would have imagined very mixed opinions at best...)

And yeah ... according to the story of creation (now that I am actually trying to recall it), plants indeed do not have seeds of good and evil, as they were created by Gaia alone. (Horse chestnuts are evil. Not only dominant - as many plants are -, but downright evil. Rather decorative, though... And some other plants are nice and friendly.)
- It feels strange, though, plants sharing a soul, as in real life plants existing in any sort of harmony is an exception, not the rule. Mostly, they try to very decidedly eliminate other plants in their vicinity by launching a deprivation and chemical war on them, though some will try to "flee". (It can be interesting seeing the same plant pop up a handful of inches from where you last saw it each spring...) How can beings which typically spend their entire lives brutally and relentlessly (if somewhat slowly) murdering one another share a soul?

How come that mind control (and to an extent illusion magic?) and making one's body decay, both of which have been described to work with 'regular', non-favored magic, are not barred by the law of magic that states you cannot directly alter living beings? (As mind control should logically drastically alter the ongoing processes in the brain, and decay is the direct breaking down and altering the consistency of the body. Normal decay only happens due to various bacteria and other flesh-eaters - remove all bacteria, and it would simply stay completely fresh indefinitely ... or eventually simply dry up, if it is in a dry enough room. Time won't cut it.) Or is it just a matter of perception?

Re@Legion's character (since you cannot see the Skype conversations, and hence some of the potential questions may already have been answered; Legion correct me if I misunderstood something, as by the time I left yesterday - well, earlier today - I was already quite tired indeed): Iridiel doesn't have any magical abilities besides her favored powers; the Éireannach simply tend to group all people with magical abilities together, no matter whether it is their own magical prowess or something a deity lends them at prayer. She also did not have her current powers at birth, but was rather 'only' marked by the deity at first. (Sulis occasionally marks people who are meant - or destined - to become her more notable favored at birth; I'd imagine it would work quite well, since the surrounding people are wont to take note of it and start facilitating the idea of being chosen by the goddess early on?) It was only after a long time of dedicated prayers (Legion noted that Sulis is quite big on people routinely praying at her every day, even when they don't necessarily use the favored powers) that she gained the favored powers she has now ... which the officials soon picked up upon, and that did not go well as can be seen.
- The ability to call lightning has a 'cooldown' mostly for balance reasons - it is meant to be the occasional strategic weapon to take out some single important figure (that isn't somehow shielded from magic and/or lightning), but not to be called upon many times in a row to potentially singlehandedly take out an army. (Now when I think of it, being indoors or the opponent having allies very close to them would probably make using it too dangerous for her and/or her allies.) As for what the IC explanation for the cooldown would be, I figure Sulis as a deity is quite free to lend her powers as she as she pleases and may simply not allow using the ability all that often? ("...No. You just asked to use that but moments ago. You do not squander my more destructive powers.")
(Also, we will finally have a proper healer again! Aemoten can go back to just stopping the occasional severe bleeding that can't wait long instead of bearing the brunt of mending everyone's injuries at whatever cost they take.)

Hmm... I believe it is Jack in Zerul and Jillian's party, and Nessa again with the collab? Or does Olan or Jaelnec have something to say?
Edit: And now that Jack's posted, it is Merc/Rhae and Ink/Ashgan respectively (and still Nessa with the collab). Also, Aemoten and Gerald (well, mostly Gerald) already concluded the Withering was demonic back at the gazzeral church' ruins? Guess confirmations can't hurt, though.
Hrm... I think I am still a bit confused over what makes demons tendenced to generally (though not always) obtain mindset that might fit the general perception of evil, and gods one that might fit the general perception of good. Their instincts, which you referred to? Something about how the seeds were made by the respective spirits? If their drive makes them more likely to do things of a specific kind, then the drive probably has some kind of preset?

Do mortals get their seeds of the opposite alignment expunged when they get turned into demons or angels?

Why do plants not qualify as mortals? I recall their souls are typically more placid, and that in this world a plant-soul can reach over multiple individual plants (though wouldn't it make them one person, rather than not mortal? what about colonial animals, especially the lesser ones?). Real-life plants typically communicate chemically (and while some of them work together, even across species, they more commonly try to kill one another off). The changes of a plant's chemical composition can also be insanely fast.

@Nessa: Your turn in the collab?
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