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Alright,

I was sent a PM asking if I was going to be holding the Nexus of Worlds Tournament (Frostmourne Edition). I have been contemplating doing so but only if there is sufficient interest in it. Since the site had to be rebooted I have been hesitant in gearing it up.
Hulk vs. Superman...

I would think based on the tiers, minimum of tier 8 and a maximum of tier 9 in terms of physical strength.

Bruce Banner

Banner is considered one of the greatest scientific minds on Earth, possessing "a mind so brilliant it cannot be measured on any known intelligence test."He holds expertise in biology, chemistry, engineering, physiology, and nuclear physics. Using this knowledge, Banner creates advanced technology dubbed "Bannertech", which is on par with technological development from Tony Stark or Doctor Doom. Some of these technologies include a force field that can protect him from the attacks of Hulk-level entities, and a teleporter.

Hulk

The Hulk possesses the potential for limitless physical strength depending directly on his emotional state, particularly his anger. This has been reflected in the repeated comment, "The madder Hulk gets, the stronger Hulk gets." After probing, the entity Beyonder once claimed that the Hulk's potential strength had "no finite element inside."Hulk's strength has been depicted as sometimes limited by Banner's subconscious influence; when Jean Grey psionically "shut Banner off", Hulk became strong enough to overpower and destroy the physical form of the villain Onslaught. Writer Greg Pak described the Worldbreaker Hulk shown during World War Hulk as having a level of physical power where "Hulk was stronger than any mortal—and most immortals—who ever walked the Earth." His strength allows him to leap into lower Earth orbit or across continents,and he has displayed superhuman speed.

His durability, regeneration, and endurance also increase in proportion to his temper.Hulk is resistant to injury or damage, though the degree to which varies between interpretations, but he has withstood the equivalent of solar temperatures, nuclear explosions, and planet-shattering impacts. Despite his remarkable resiliency, continuous barrages of high-caliber gunfire can hinder his movement to some degree while he can be temporarily subdued with intense attacks with chemical weapons such as anesthetic gases, although any interruption of such dosages will allow him to quickly recover. He has been shown to have both regenerative and adaptive healing abilities, including growing tissues to allow him to breathe underwater, surviving unprotected in space for extended periods, and when injured, healing from most wounds within seconds.] As an effect, he has an extremely prolonged lifespan.

He also possesses less commonly described powers, including abilities allowing him to "home in" to his place of origin in New Mexico; resist psychic control,or unwilling transformation; grow stronger from radiation or dark magic; and to see and interact with astral forms.Some of these abilities were in later years explained as being related; his ability to home in on the New Mexico bomb site was due to his latent ability to sense astral forms and ghosts, since the bomb site was also the place where the Maestro's skeleton was and Maestro's spirit was calling out to him in order to absorb his radiation. The Hulk is also able to generate omnidirectional bursts of kinetic energy that completely destroy the planet he is standing on.
Based on the Punisher's power set I think a case can be made that he has tier 4 mental resistance to psychic and telepathic powers as they are rendered useless against him. And possibly some of his tech can fall into the mad scientist tier 4 rating. However for everything else he probably is tier 3.

The Punisher is the recipient of multi-disciplinary military training from the United States Marine Corps. While a Marine, he also received training from the U.S. Army and U.S. Navy as well as cross-training with the Australian Special Air Service Regiment during the Vietnam War. In addition, since beginning his work as the Punisher, Castle has used his military discipline and training techniques to update and expand his skills in areas that aid in his mission (disguise, acting, use of non-military weapons, etc.). From this training, Punisher is proficient in not only basic infantry skills, but in special operations, which includes the use and maintenance of specialized firearms and explosive ordnance. He is highly trained in infiltration into heavily guarded enemy territories and structures for the purpose of assassination, capture, and military intelligence. Also, he is trained in various forms of camouflage and stealth. He is also highly adept at hand-to-hand combat, and has been trained in multiple forms of martial arts. Both Nick Fury and Tony Stark have commented on how extraordinarily high his pain tolerance is. He does not take even over-the-counter painkillers, as he feels that their benefit of dulling pain is not worth the side effects of drowsiness and slowed reflexes.

He maintains multiple safehouses and vehicles around the greater New York City area as well as multiple forged identities and bank accounts (most of the funds and equipment aiding him in his work being taken from the criminals he hunts). The Punisher has a Kevlar uniform which protects him from most gunfire, though he can still suffer concussive injury or penetration from sufficient or repeated impacts. The bright white skull in his chest is used both to intimidate his enemies and to lure their fire to the more heavily protected area of his armor. The design was supposedly taken from a Vietcong sniper he fought against during the Vietnam War. The Punisher has been using technology derived from super-villains and other costumed characters, such as the Green Goblin's pumpkin bombs,[43] a modified Goblin Glider, and a Doctor Octopus tentacle that he can shrink down for easy storage via Pym Particles.

Aside from his physical prowess, the Punisher also has complete control of his mind and conscience, where psychic and telepathic powers are rendered useless against him. When Letha and Lascivious tried to control Punisher's mind, Punisher scoffs at their attempt saying "[it] doesn't feel different from any other day
Send a PM to Crapton. He was/is sick so he might not have seen it.
Biddz not to be rude but what makes you think rules were not in place for fights? Did you think we just threw around powers willy-nilly without a way to fairly adjudicate them in a fight? The tiers as I said were used to teach fighters a progressive amount of power without overwhelming them. If you think we didn't have to out think our opponents back then, you are sadly mistaken, that was really the only way you could beat someone was to think of the fight like a chess match.
Gado, these are the revised Anime-League tiers that were used to train fighters. They were used to evaluate the fighters writing skill and if they were good enough to move on to the next tier. Points had nothing to do with it, you fought and displayed a level of skill and judges would determine if you were good enough to move on. I cannot find the original tier ratings.

Level 1 || This is the general human level, encompassing the power attainable by the average Joe and is limited to the most basic of technological weapons, like guns, crossbow and knives—maybe even a scooter if in the wrong hands.

Level 2|| Human abilities at their peak, but still nothing overtly supernatural. Examples would be a genius IQ, very minor spell-casting ability (I’m talking sparking dried brush into flame). Technological objects such as laser guns fall under this level.

Level 3|| Genetic, cybernetic, divine or magical enhancements that allow you to run as fast as a sports car, jump anime style, or bench three-hundred pounds without breaking a sweat—as well as other physical modifications of that level. Dexterity level equal to an expert marksman, low level psionics and spellcasting ability, super-genius intelligence quotient and martial arts master are other examples of Level 3 abilities. Equipment falls under the same range of power.

Level 4 || Examples of Level 4 powers and abilities include Mad Scientist level genius and scientific ability, long ranged telepathy, magical powers that to not involve a divine patron, and the ability to shoot flaming bats with magic arrows of light without the aide of that damnable fairy partner. In general, the range of ability to be expected from a Jedi Padawan of Star Wars or a Gennin Ninja of Naruto—as well as the use of cybernetics, alchemy, and so on to simulate any of that.

Level 5 || The basics of nano-technology capable of regenerating minor wounds, or alternatively wizardry or clerical ability capable of the same. You can pilot your own short range star fighter and have access to technology so advanced as to be almost magical in nature. The ability to fly for any reason you can think of that makes any rudimentary amount of plot logic. Your character may have the reflexes and skills of an elite Jedi Knight, the speed of Saito Hajime, and the power to take down Trinity of The Matrix with ease.

Level 6 || The ability to heal major damage taken both personally, or by others, through the method of your choice. The charisma and influence necessary to muster an army of elite soldiers, and access to the technology needed to build and operate a small space craft capable of interstellar travel (or a magic dragon from the future, whatever floats your boat). Your powers and skills rival those of Gandalf the White, Obi-Wan Kenobi and Himura Kenshin at their best.

Level 7 || Personal shielding and an Imperial Star Destroyer for a flagship; computer expertise that can take down Borg Cubes, and you may have weapons so slick and high tech that they make the ladies hot and bothered. You can distort space-time at will with your magic, enough so to influence events worlds or even years away, and your physical strikes can no longer even be seen. Armies of grizzled veterans--wearing too much steel to stand up on their own—will carry your banner to war and ride really expensive looking horses across the battlefield. You could out gun an Agent in the Matrix or beat him down with your martial arts, and powers and abilities compare to Mace Windu of Star Wars, Ultimecia Final Fantasy, and Hyuuga Ricdeau of Xenogears.

Level 8 || The firewalls of the Death Star and Magi Supercomputers fall with ease before your unbeatable hacking skills. You can repair lost limbs and destroyed vital functions expediently. Your powers can cut down small armies, and shield you from the effects of nuclear weapons. You are no longer merely limited to viewing other worlds and epochs from afar, but may now visit them personally. Powers are of comparable scale to Marvel’s Magneto and Doctor Strange.

Level 9 || That your powers rank less then omnipotent and have finite energy requirements are essentially your only restrictions at this point.

Level 10|| Anything becomes possible within the restraints of the rules of the forum and common sense.
Gado is right Seed, this is a very low-tier system that doesn’t go by T1 or even uses the tiers properly. We come from the era when your name was recognized, and you ventured to other sites to fight other named fighters. A time when the clans warred across multiple sites, invading and killing named fighters if they could, and if not there would be protracted long battles that engulfed many fighters allied with the invaders or the defenders.

I remember when the great war between magic and technology occurred and when the last mages fell to the gunfighters of the technocracy. This was the time that we learned to fight in, but now things are different. Moderately powered fighters are the norm, and fighting is more of a genial thing instead of actually developing rivalries.

I doubt many here know or even remember these fighters; Ran, Alucroas, Guts, Nonpariel, Jace, Circ, SSJ3Mewtwo, Saladin, Remeaus, Asimov much less care.
Ahh Seed we come a different time. Our generation is now considered elitist op godmode etc. The high level fighters are no longer accepted on many sites
Unskilled fighters with tons of powers get destroyed. You are correct however Seed is correct as well since he was last here the shift from T1 fighters realistic/mp/p has gone to a more casual fighter. Thats all
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