I'd like to have a DD post up soon. Maybe before walking dead tonight. If not, count on it tomorrow, along with a new CS from me. Haven't decided which.
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That seems like something really far in the future, like after all of our acts are over. But, if we get that far, I see no issue with that. I've purposely pushed Remy over that cliff to see what comes of it.If it is fine with you, it's fine with me. Honestly, how many other people would take one of the Inhumans over some of the characters that have not been selected yet (Iron Man, Captain America, Hulk, just to name a few). The X-Men are basically wide open. We have two X-Men, although they haven't joined the X-Men yet. Right now for the X-Men, all we know is that there is Professor X, Firestar, and Iceman. And that is more of me asking whoever takes up control over the X-Men to please include them. Edit: No problem with double posting. We all do it sometimes.I have the intention of making Triton my NPC at some point, but I also am going to change Karnak in the way that Black Bolt is not directly involved with him, except for maybe the notice that he exists, for the point that New Yorker chooses to pick him up or not. Also, I'm probably going to make an X-Men app, as the X-Men are one of my favourite groups (though I do prefer the offshoots), and to get in on those sweet X-Men collabs. Speaking of the offshoots, is anyone interested in changing their inevitable X-Men characters at some point into the Uncanny X-Force strike team? [The team in the comics was Wolverine, Psylocke, Archangel, Deadpool and Fantomex.] They are, if you don't know, the collection of X-Men characters who are willing to kill people.
Couldn't agree more. EDIT: I really have to remember not to double post. Sorry.To be fair, that is a pretty big restriction. But as I say, the player would just need to accept that and deal with it.It is a slippery slope. If we don't allow this, then it will be very restrictive for the current players because that would make certain characters flat out unavailable and make certain stories impossible to tell. We just want to find a balance that allows for us to give us the most tools to tell the stories that we want to tell and that allows for new players to make the characters that they want to make.
Well, as I said: Black Bolt is a huge part of Karnak's world. It would be arrogant of me to say that Eru can't use him an describe him in a way as to expose something about his own character. I see no issue in that at all. As a player, I would have to go into the CS under the assumptions that have already been expressed by Eru. Which I think brings the conversation full circle :DAlright. So you're saying minimal exposition is allowed, but it's necessary to be particularly vague for the foreseeable future?I mean, I think we should take into consideration how popular some character are to determined how much we can use. For instance, Iron Man is pretty popular (especially because of his movies/Marvel animated series). For him, I would say don't mention him unless absolutely necessary because I assume someone, sooner or later, would like to pick him up. However, for characters like the Inhumans, unless others here are against it, I would not mind if you took liberties with the other Inhumans. My logic behind this is that I assume that a potential player would prefer to play as Iron Man over one of the other characters from the Inhumans. Also, if worse comes to worse, we can just retcon stuff (especially if someone goes AWL). That's the unfortunate side affect of using established Marvel characters over original characters (as can be seen in the Create-A-Hero RPG). Unfortunately here we are going to have to retcon if someone goes missing, while in the Create-A-Hero RPG, we could just ignore the posts of people who pop in, make a post or two, and then disappear. Edit: Ops, forgot that New Yorker has thoughts about Black Bolt. Well, if you would like to take liberties with the other Inhumans, you could run them by New Yorker just in case.
For characters that have not been picked up yet, I would err on the side of keeping them vague so that others can pick them up. I'm fine with Kal-El's application because it still allows a player to take liberties with the character. Yes, they have to adopt Jimmpy into their character background, but they have free-reign with everything else. This "rule" is really to protect the popular characters (like Iron Man). If its a minor character, you can take more liberties if you are using them as an NPC.To be fair, that is a pretty big restriction. But as I say, the player would just need to accept that and deal with it.
Alright. So you're saying minimal exposition is allowed, but it's necessary to be particularly vague for the foreseeable future?That's how I see it. Like, I don't think it would be brave for you to even mention Black Bolt's real name, since he's such an important element of your story. If I ever make a CS for him, it would be my responsibility to accept that his name is already set, as are some of his other components. I think it would be incredibly arrogant of me to suggest that you have no right to discuss another member of a notoriously segregated section of society when your character is an important member in the aforementioned community.
The year problem seems quite simple a fix, though, at least!This is true.
@The New Yorker - I'll PM you some stuff, at some point, so we can brainstorm.Sounds good.
I was just thinking, after reading some of the Character Applications (that are all good), I noticed that a few important characters have been introduced in reference or in context. For example, in Dedonus' alone, Iceman is moved from team to team and given a backstory - and also characters such as Tony Stark and Reed Richards are mentioned. But, as stated for this RP, we can redesign the mainstream characters - and The New Yorker has already done that by changing Matt Murdock's name - so what if someone comes in with an application for Tony Stark, yet naming him Tony Burns or whatever? Is this impossible now due to the continuity we are constantly creating with every reference? Also, if people want to apply as characters already introduced, will they have to follow the existing continuity explicitly? I took and am still taking measures to avoid naming any other Inhumans, I've been saying 'the ruling Inhumans' instead of Black Bolt and Medusa, so wouldn't it be better if others did that also? And finally, with super-intelligent people like Reed Richards and Hank Pym being mentioned, wouldn't it be strange if - when we get to cross-character events that would affect the world in general - these people who are not being controlled don't show up, whereas logic would suggest they would? Sorry if this causes any problems or confusion, but it's just a thought I got.You bring up good points. As I see it, the currently players should take advantage of the world they're playing in, using characters that they deem fit in as loose (thematic ambiguity), and yet consistent (use of characterization and personality) a manner as possible. In the instances where someone comes in to fill those roles, they would have to fill in the shoes you've left behind. It's impossible to strike a perfect balance between incoming players and current players, which is why I feel it best if we lean toward the current players, those who are most readily effected by the rules. Incoming players will just have to deal with the fact that Wolverine's later life story is settled, and that Tony Stark is indeed a playboy entrepreneur, and Trask is a corrupted snake. All this being said, the GM get's final say on stuff like that.
Ah, but it says 2012 is The Present Day on the info post! Probably just confusion on my part – I didn't realise most people were going by 2013. I'm down with that interaction, though. This first arc won't last that long, as it's more of an exercise in writing as her (since it'll take me a while to get into the swing of things) so after that, I can timeskip a year or so and we can work something out ^^ Alternatively, I could just change the date to January, 2013, so that the timeskip is only six or so months. I think Rogue would help, though, with a bit of complaining on the side. It would be cool!I mean, I'm not even sure if I'm right about the date. It does say 2012 in the OP but there seems to be some consensus that present day is some time in 2013. IDK if that was lost in translation during the transition between GM's, but it is significant, and I meant to bring it up earlier. Glad to hear you're interested. We just need to find a way to get Rogue and Fence in the same place. Would Anna have any relations to former Thieves Guild or Assassin's Guild members. The groups are mostly disbanded at this point, but those who survived are still trying to make their way. Remy has a "brother" Fence is going to see, a beatnick thief with Robin Hood qualities. Perhaps Anna finds herself working with this group intermittently during her time as a vigilante. This means she can realistically be privy to Fence's offer to the brother, deciding for herself if she want's to help. I probably should have put this in a PM, but I'm pretty lazy right now, and this is how it came out. We can obviously smooth out the finer details through PM if you find this acceptable. EDIT:
McHaggis is correct. It is currently 2012 (around August). That's why I don't use time stamps...Well then, I should say, you've been rather cruel in letting your players wallow in ignorance for the past few weeks. You should have said something earlier, and, perhaps, if you'd used timestamps, this problem wouldn't have occurred in the first place. This may seem trenchant, but I've seen stronger groups come apart from smaller tears in communication.
That was a really nice post, @McHaggis. It's really interesting what you're doing with Rogue.
Fence, Remy's business partner and, well, fence, is down in the Bayou right now in my arch. I've noticed that you're a year behind right now. I'm wondering if that's a conscious effort, or perhaps confusion. Either way, if Anna Marie is still down there in a years time, in your arch, then perhaps she could be approached by Fence with this offer to help him and Remy. She doesn't have to do it, obviously, but I think it would be a cool interaction between them and would set up any future relationship between Anna and Remy quite well.
Tell me what you think about that.
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