@Weird TalesClarification: The suit shrinks with him when he uses his power to shrink. Not that the suit shrinks him.
The suit shrinks with him. His powers are what cause him to shrink, the suit just shrinks along with him
@Weird TalesClarification: The suit shrinks with him when he uses his power to shrink. Not that the suit shrinks him.
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I agree on some points, but the topic itself arguably removed the civilty status of that thread. Everyone responding in such a volatile way to such an inappropriate breach is expected (at least, imo), but I also agree that how it was handled was very far from optimal. Some took it too far, yes definitely, but it was still justifiable anger.
Though, I don't think we're going to get anywhere with this argument, considering how stubborn I am and how the thread was ultimately locked for both "sides". Also, as others have said, there's a high chance it was just a dedicated troll. Part of me believes he wasn't, but to err on the side of caution, maybe it'd be best to stop conversation about it. Don't feed the possible trolls and all that.
Agree to disagree?
Pick-up artists are kind of like martial artists, in a sense. Except with way more bullshit and placebo built around it.
In martial arts, you learn skills, you have to get into a certain state of mind, and you have to practice, but they're trying to prepare you for something with a billion variables that nothing short of experience will ever be able to properly prepare you for. All those highly specific fight-ending maneuvers you learn you will probably never get the opportunity to perform, and when you do, it probably won't end the way you predict, because f*#ping nothing will. They do give you one thing that always helps your chances, though, and that's physical conditioning.
That's what pick-up artists are, basically, but, as I said, with all the potentially useful teachings stripped away for plain bull, among other, more destructive lessons. They give the less skeptical student the courage and willingness to ask the girl out, which is the most important aspect. They don't have chances if they never tried to begin with. Of course, it'll probably never work for someone *aherm* aesthetically disabled, but a guy with no eyes and only one of each limb just isn't boxer material, is he?
Invariably, there will be at least one woman in a million that would accept his proposal, (And the unfortunate boxer may be able to beat the crap out of one in a million guys, but I'm done with this entertaining analogy) but he has neither the time nor resources to meet literally a million women. That's what dating sites are for, the ability to ask one million women out at once.
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You and Chrononaut make a good point, but I'm not acting like harassment is nothing. If anything, it's the opposite. Branding angry backlash towards a terrible handled gameified version of a tragic historic as harassment, when it has not gone beyond a now locked thread (which, again, I'm assuming there have been no malicious PM's or the sort), is arguably discrediting actual harassment. Bullying, abuse, and so forth are very real issues and present very big problems, but this sort of one-off instance of anger towards someone hardly deserves to be considered in the ranks of those kinds of harassment. Judging by how they wrote their final posts on the thread, the OP seemed calm and collected, stubborn that they were in the right but at least sorta understanding. Nothing about that says "I'm horribly affected by the backlash I've recieved", and in fact, you seem to be defending someone who doesn't need it. Additionally, you can't say that they didn't expect there to be at least some negative reaction. Hell, they even said they did themselves. In conclusion, this is (imo) clearly not a risk-inducing event for the OP, assuming they don't have any mental afflictions that could serve as a catalyst for the kind of break-down you mentioned.
Additionally, let's define harassment in this context. According to Canadian Human Rights Commission:
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Obviously there was no physical contact, and looking through the thread there were no mentions of any personal characteristics (sex, age, race, etc.), which rules out personal discrimination. The only one that could really apply is the second one, which also matches with the first definition you get when you google the word. Skimming through the thread, I've seen neither threats nor intimidation. A lot of insults and such (which I don't condone, but I understand), but no threats. No "I'm going to find you and kill you" kind of things. No "I'm going to make your life here hell until you leave the site" (if I missed any, please show me). Just a lot of insults and name-calling. By definition, I believe, it was not harassment. I think a better word would be condemnation.
To close... While I hate to bring personal morals like this into it, I think it's ridiculous you would consider reporting those who responded to the OP rather than the OP itself.
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... "You", as in me? I never even posted on that thread? Weird way to personalize it. EDIT: Not to instigate an argument, but let's say, for example, I punched someone in the face, would it be harrassment if everyone verbally lashed out at me because hurting others like that is "immoral"? Facing negative reactions for a percieved negative action is how it works. Should everyone have calmly discussed it? Probably, but people don't generally work like that, you being a perfect example. You saw something you disliked and you responded with negative emotion. As I said though, I draw the line when the response gets more personal (as in, malicious PM's or attacking in non-related threads, etc.).
Anyways, here's a pet peeve: when people make a fandom RP but completely misconstrue the lore of said fandom. Like, it's one thing if you're making an AU or something, but if you're trying to adhere to the actual canon and you just get it wrong... yikes.
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Assuming we're talking about the same thing, that was hardly harrassment. Posting an extremely controversial, glorifying, and immoral idea such as that, they got what they deserved. The only way I'd consider it "harrassement" would be if they got malicious PMs, which none of us have any way of knowing if they did or not.
Ignoring ethics, it was also against the rules. So.
probably shouldn't continue conversation on the topic but hey it's vague