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Heroic said
To set everything up to have everything, i.e. The world turning its back on him, to happen when he planned it to. Though I guess I'll need to rethink everything now. Including the fact that I now have nothing in common with my dad again...

I'm sure you have something. Pray about it, God will show you something in common and will help you to bond. God doesn't want us to be distant from our parents, or vice versa, and as such, He will help you. I know it. Also, even though I'm not going to post my (now very long) argument, do note that it does show that all of Genesis is literal. If you need any help at all with thinking about any scientific ramifications, we'll be here to help you. I don't want you to go through the Christian life alone, and I know David doesn't either.

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Heroic said
But I don't need anymore proof. You have me. I just want you to say that it means consecutive, because literal days does not imply that the days took place one right after the other.

Six consecutive literal days. So you now believe that God (more specifically Jesus, as in the the post I'm writing) created everything in six days, without using Evolution?

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Heroic said
Because I'm not a literalist and it made the most sense for me to do so.That first one could apply to primitive, hypothetical humans before Adam and Eve. Because it was Heaus in the second one, I cannot deny anything from that at all. And can you go into more detail on how the Hebrew word for day means literal, consecutive, back-to-back days?

1. Jesus is talking about Adam and Eve.
3. The Hebrew word for Day, when used with a number, always means a literal day, throughout the Bible and in other Hebrew texts.

Also, in Matthew 19:3-6 and Mark 10:3-9, Jesus describes Adam and Eve as the first married couple. We can also understand from Genesis that Adam and Eve were the first humans to reproduce. Jesus says that Abel was the first murder. I'm virtually completely sure that if there were humans before Adam and Eve, there would be murder.

I'll be writing up another set of verses that show that Jesus specifically shows that creation took place over six days, but it might be rather long, so I'll do it in another post and still respond here.

Camp Half-Blood

I'm definitely, totally not hinting at the possibility of anything at all in my latest post. Certainly not.

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Heroic said
I like this argument you just made, David. Although, I assume you just googled "Should you take the Bible literally?" in which case I encourage you to click on the top link and read that for reasons I'm about to explain. First off, understand this... I have read most of the Bible yet! I'm only still on Exodus, and I'm still a new Christian. Now that that's out of the way, there are verses like the one in the article I told you to look at that wouldn't make any sense whatsoever to be taken literally.

Well then, I'll pull out a few Bible verses to help you with this. I completely forgot about that.
First of all, we know that in each of the six days, God said that "The Evening and the Morning were the nth day."
A quote of Jesus in Mark 10:6: "But from the beginning of the creation, God 'made them male and female'". See how Jesus says "beginning of the creation"? This shows that God created Adam and Eve very close to the beginning of the creation, not billions of years after he created the universe.

John 5:45–47: “Do not think that I shall accuse you to the Father; there is one who accuses you—Moses, in whom you trust. For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?”
We know for certain that Moses wrote Genesis. Jesus wording here shows that we're meant to take Moses' words literally. Therefore, we are to take Genesis literally. Even if Moses didn't write Genesis, we have this:

Exodus 20:11: “For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.”
Some, in Genesis, use the argument that day could mean multiple things. However, in this verse, the Hebrew word specifically applied to 24-hour days. So, since we are to believe the words of Moses, and Moses said that the universe was created in six literal days, then we show that Jesus himself endorsed the 6 literal day view.

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Host said
If you can take a whole book as a metaphor, you have no reason to believe Jesus died for our sins, or that anyone is going to Hell. Why even believe in sin if it's all just a metaphor? Christianity is different than every other religion because it's meant to be taken literally and as absolute truth!

We of course do have figurative speech in places like the Psalms. It's not all absolutely literal, but we have criteria that uses the rest of the Bible to determine what a certain part of the Bible is, such that we don't elevate ourselves above God in interpretation.

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Host said
If you can take a whole book as a metaphor, you have no reason to believe Jesus died for our sins, or that anyone is going to Hell. Why even believe in sin if it's all just a metaphor? Christianity is different than every other religion because it's meant to be taken literally and as absolute truth!

Also, David, check your inbox, I have a question about plot.

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Heroic said
Now, who said you couldn't believe that the gift of immortality wasn't granted to the first intelligent humans (Adam and Eve)? Who said you couldn't believe that they soiled their gift of immortality with their foolishness? And the rest just falls in line.Name one reason that you have to take it literally. And Jesus was not a metaphor because there are historical texts that confirm his existence.

Death of the animals. All death, according to Genesis, came as a result of Adam and Eve's sin. If they evolved from animals, then those animals had died before Adam and Eve messed up.

Heroic said
It tells you in the Bible to take every word in the Bible literally, and in no other way? And that basically implies that since I don't take the Bible literally, I should abandon my relationship with Jesus and start living in sin the way I used to so I can go to Hell.

There's a careful examination taken to figure out how each book of the Bible was meant. The wording of Genesis already puts it into the needed criteria for a literal book of the Bible, and numerous other factors come into place that confirm this classification. I read a lot about this when I was witnessing to someone about the literal wording of Genesis a while back.

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Host said
Not meant to be, but it gets the point across. You all know that I'm very cut and dry when I'm serious.

Okay then.

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LegendBegins said
Or, or... Wait for her to wake up.

-Libra- Or that.