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My sister's online school is going on a field trip to an aquarium so byeeee
Dynamics said
I didn't say it was turning into electricity. Regardless, I don't believe that God changes the rules for small things, so take you theoretical physics, and I'll stick with my theories and rules. I'm sure it gets there, but I doubt it breaks physical laws to do so.


Each to their own. Maybe one day we'll actually see how it happens, other than just knowing it does XD But for now, that's the best we can come up with.
Zeal said
I'm going to use her now.


lel
souleaterfan320 said
its easier for me to work with.


Bleh. *giggles*
Dynamics said
Anyway, hopefully we won't need them.


Yeah! I'm sure there's some other way to get rid of the Copterannies
Dynamics said
Maybe later. We'll see.


Okay then! Suit yourself!
bed, ned
Dynamics said
The biggest problem I have is the "we only have so much information, cannot get more at a specific moment, which means that this is certain."Like Schrödinger's Box, I don't have a problem that something works, but I have a problem with the way we try to explain it, and that we can't accept a simple "I don't know yet." The atom must somehow convert to energy, or do something physically possible, because nothing can change location without traveling.


Well, it does travel. Wave-particle duality, remember? It moves like a wave in order to get through. The frequency of the wave changes proportional to the probability, in such a way that the particle is able to tunnel right through. It practically appears, although it's moving in a wavey way. It's not turning into electricity, and it is doing something physically possible.
Dynamics said
It just wouldn't work.


Just fire away! It just might!
Dynamics said
Tell me, how does it go through it?I can't accept physically impossible things. Science is just the art of proving yourself wrong, so I'll stick with beliefs that don't go against basic physical laws. For example, an atom can't be in two places at once.


It just tunnels right through. The analogy is this: Imagine a ball rolling over a hill. Classically, if it doesn't have enough energy, it'll roll back down. Classically, if an atom didn't have enough energy to penetrate a barrier, it would bounce back or be absorbed. However, there's a small probability that it'll actually tunnel through even without the energy required to break through. This is because of quantum uncertainty and the principle that matter has properties of both waves and particles. Uncertainty states than it is impossible to know both the momentum and position of a particle exactly at a given moment. There is a limit to our preciseness when involving both.

Doing the maths shows us that the probability that the particle is on the other side of a barrier at the needed moment is not zero. Hence, there is a small chance that the particle will appear on the other side of the barrier, with a wave frequency proportional to the probability that it would happen (different with circumstances, of course, but always nonzero within 1-3 nanometers). That is how quantum tunnelling, an actual proven thing that happens and we use, works.
Dynamics said
Ca-...Nah, never mind.


What was the question? Nothing is too silly!
Dynamics said
Until they can clearly draw and define the line of travel that the atom does, or could take, I won't accept that it spontaneously jumps through physical objects. Unless it becomes totally energy oriented and travels through other atoms, which for all we know, could be possible.


Apparently they did.



They can use that energy change to determine the path. And how can you not accept that atoms can spontaneously jump through objects when we've observed it happen and actually use a microscope that utilises that phenomena? It has a practical application in science, and we've proved that it happens. And also, uncertainty shows that the path will be... Uncertain. XD Although we can figure it out once it happens, I suppose.
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