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And also, quite exaggerating my point. I said that I'd only have a few of these suits, that they were expensive, and that they'd only be at high-priority places or people. Not that I'd have an entire army of them.

I say a few, and you go off on some kind of educational rant about how stupid it would be to arm my entire military with the suits, about how we're not supposed to have these Halo high-tier suits.

THEY AREN'T THAT POWERFUL. THEY AREN'T THAT NUMEROUS.
The APIRCA was funded by the UN, but mainly the US, before they broke apart. While the US Dollar would probably be worth even less, the story is that they were funded heavily by them. That way, they had developed the technology, and it wouldn't be lost because the APIRCA is based on hundreds of ships, that are constantly moving, and meant to be hard to find in the first place. There would be no major loss from a war of bombings and missile strikes, because APIRCA would be moving around in all directions, so effectively crippling them would only be by taking down those they purchase supplies from. And they can buy supplies from anyone who wants weapons, or body armor, or tools, or any of that.
Well this is, what, 30 years in the future? I hope we're not so hopeless that we're still using regular armor by that time. Rounds would certainly impact, that's for sure, but with the research that the corporation's entire purpose was for, it wouldn't knock the armored soldier down unless he had his feet planted north/south, and the round hit the chest from the east/west. Properly braced, with the suit 'powered' up [because it obviously wouldn't just be an armor plate, with electronics and stuff right underneath], no, then it certainly would not knock the person down.

And I never said it was more powerful than a tank. When I say small-arms, I mean generic rounds, not armor piercing. I didn't say it was a tank all on its own.
I'm not looking for halo-tier armor. That's some serious stuff. This is just enough to keep the weight of the suit from falling entirely on the user, and then a bit more. It will not allow someone to be hit by a truck and survive with minor injuries. It isn't invincible: a grenade will shred and disable the armor, and keep the user from doing anything until he's either
A) Dies, from blood loss to a bullet
B) Manages to get out on his own
C) someone else helps him out

Small arms fire just wouldn't be able to penetrate, and the person wearing it would be able to heft a bit more than the usual soldier. Yes, traditional infantry is still the backbone and the main force. These soldiers would just be stationed at very important places, like right outside a server room, or at the entrance to a bunker where a high-priority individual is hiding. That kind of thing. They aren't going to be used in actual combat, like an assault on someone else, unless it is required.

I could have modded bomb-suits for what you just suggested, moving ammunition without getting shot dead at the first few rounds, or use a heavier weapon to keep someone else pinned down, without as much risk.
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That's all assuming that battery technology has reached its peak in 2014, and that we will never come up with a superior form of storing energy. Which is ludicrous.

I agree that bodysuits should be bulky, and that they should have weaknesses alongside any strengths they have. At the same time, I don't think we should argue this down to the point that all we have is a 2014 World War simulator. If you are going to RP something in the future, you kind of have to loosen the rules and tech a little bit elsewise you pretty much just rubber band back to the modern day.

I suppose at the end of the day the thing we should be instilling is a tendency toward bending the rules in order to make something cool and interesting in the context of the plot rather than something overpowered and masturbatory as the original suit idea was. We don't want to swing so far to the extremes that we are just playing idea whack-a-mole and only allowing the things that we know to happen.

Suits should have weaknesses that counteract their strengths. If they are well armored and equipped with a lot of implements, then they should be slow. Perhaps soldiers who operate them are required to have certain sorts of cybernetic surgeries that take something away from them psychologically or physiologically. And of course, they shouldn't be invisible.


I believe in the bolded part, and I am working on the underlined part. They are slow, and they will be slow to turn. But they can also take more hits, and they can carry heavier weapons, such as a minigun, without as much strain or risk. They will have restrictions: They probably won't be able to aim upwards very well, nor would they be able to reach downward very well. But, they could aim a sniper rifle better than many others, because they can hook it up to their helmet, and use the suit's arms to make small adjustments according to wind, distance, etc.

They are no means invincible or superduper. They're just sacrificing speed, range of movement, money, and time, for armor, accuracy, slight strength.
The Supremes, while much smaller, are supposed to be a kind of anti-Equestrian. That way the energy that is infinite and can be used by any of the central species and can only be controlled by that central species isn't all-powerful and can be used everywhere. They don't use magical energy, pure or not, they just cancel it out.
I would think the AIF is bigger, since they have several large factions as well as many smaller ones. The Equiis is just the Equestrians, more or less ruling over all the other smaller factions in their Pact.
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The Supreme Draconian just pauses for a moment, concentrating, and Faust's voice abruptly disappears halfway through her speech, clearing the room of the presence.

"There we go. She was getting aggravating. So, Dmitri, can we preserve your race?"
And while Faust is a god/goddess, that doesn't mean you can do anything where you did nothing much elsewhere.

Sorry KeyGuy.
And in terms of military technology, war would make much BETTER mil-tech, not set it back. Demand will be met, and in war, miltech has high demand.
I know.
I just don't like it when somebody constantly corrects everyone else. I MENTION being better at writing, and igt a giant hissy fit about how insulting and mean I am. While it wasn't a logical reaction, I still don't want other people to be offended.

Maybe perhaps list what they would have in terms of utilities, climate, and resources, and suggest a change for a select group of resources?
I don't quite see how it'd be fair to have an omnipresence to recreate your race after you get it killed.
I prefer science and ish-science better.
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