Hidden 10 yrs ago Post by Queen Raidne
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Ohhhh, that's who Zimmerman is. Sorry, I don't care any more (hint: I never really did/want to in the first place).
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Griever said Not to mention, if he was really that guilty, the jury could have chosen a guilty verdict. But they didn't. Also why are you trying to bring his lawyer's past history into this? His lawyer did his job which is to provide a defense for his client. That's how our judicial system works, homegirl and you're the type of person that would have condemned women in Salem to be burned as witches without hearing all of the evidence because you base legal cases on emotion, not evidence.


I brought the Marissa Alexander case up to show that the judicial system doesn't work. What constitutes self-defense apparently varies wildly. Tasty ad homs, though. Yum.

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Interesting (actually) true fact -- Stand Your Ground was never once invoked by the defense during the Zimmerman trial. It has literally nothing to do with his acquittal.


Huh, you're right, it wasnt invoked. My bad. The judge did instruct the jurors, though (as required by SYG law), that Zimmerman had a right to stand his ground and use deadly force. Without SYG, he'd have told the jurors that Zimmerman had a duty to get the hell out of there before defending himself. So I still stand by the claim that Stand Your Ground helped get George Zimmerman acquitted.
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Munk said Huh, you're right, it wasnt invoked. My bad. The judge instruct the jurors, though (as required by SYG law), that Zimmerman had a right to stand his ground and use deadly force. Without SYG, he'd have told the jurors that Zimmerman had a duty to get the hell out of there before defending himself. So I still stand by the claim that Stand Your Ground helped get George Zimmerman acquitted.


Without legal rights, people who would otherwise be convicted as criminals are made innocent!? How scandalous!

Soon people won't be able to be found guilty of bearing arms in the United States any more. Damn legal rights, who even wants personal freedoms to be ensured anyway?
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I think you might have dropped your strawman there, man.

(Prior to Stand Your Ground you still had legal rights. They just didn't include killing an unarmed boy and calling it self-defense.)
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I want to see OJ vs Ted Nugent or something. To even things out.
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idlehands said
I want to see OJ vs Ted Nugent or something. To even things out.


We could do a tournament.... throw in Ray Lewis, the ghost of Ted Kennedy, Laura Bush....
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Munk said
I think you might have dropped your strawman there, man.(Prior to Stand Your Ground you still had legal rights. They just didn't include killing an unarmed boy and calling it self-defense.)


The self-defense part came when Trayvon mounted Zimmerman like a homo and started banging his head into the pavement, also like a homo.

Trayvon is was gay.
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