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I think, from what I can gather, the era is still Pre-history. Stone Age has yet to be reached.


If it hasn't, Vulamera is about to jump-start us into that with a super-intelligent race that will more or less be stone-age from the start, both from their intelligence and because they literally couldn't be anything less due to their biology (That will make sense in the post- suffice to say, it's physically not possible for them to NOT have stone tools)

That's right: Vulamera is making the Lifprasilians, the Shifters, and one more
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x'D I wasn't attempting to be funny, though.


So you weren't just kidding when you call him the Supreme Asshole of Change?



Now I really want someone to look at my desktop and just see this picture of a crying Trump face on a storm cloud. Their reaction will be priceless.
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@KhoCities existed in the stone age/with stone age tech. If we want to limit civilisation, we should -- limit civilisation.


No no no, Cities are a cooper age thing, I mean, how will you have cities when the populations are still nomad and under the effect of seasons? The 3-5 hut Hain villages we have now is the limit of the era unless there is some massive intervention by a god (see Vestec's horde) as far as I know no race has yet discovered how to farm and how to domesticate animals, even tribes in the depths of the Amazonian forest used to farm cassava.
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I suggest everyone have a look at the '(A Far From Exhaustible) Technology/Ideas List, Just So We're All Aware of the Current Technological State of Things' section, because that can really give you an idea of just how much we need to get through - no one has confirmed that things as simple as 'emotions' have yet been understood by the sentients.
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So you weren't just kidding when you call him the Supreme Asshole of Change?



Now I really want someone to look at my desktop and just see this picture of a crying Trump face on a storm cloud. Their reaction will be priceless.


That's not kidding: he's an asshole.

But seriously, Vestec's corruption is totes fine with Vulamera. It's Zephyrion that all her hate is concentrated on. She's at least OK with every single God except him.

You are special. You are the chosen one. You are the chosen asshole.
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No no no, Cities are a cooper age thing, I mean, how will you have cities when the populations are still nomad and under the effect of seasons? The 3-5 hut Hain villages we have now is the limit of the era unless there is some massive intervention by a god (see Vestec's horde) as far as I know no race has yet discovered how to farm and how to domesticate animals, even tribes in the depths of the Amazonian forest used to farm cassava.


Many posts make reference to Hain villages on the coast. Fishing is and was a common and easy way to sustain a large population for a long time without farming.

...I think that the Hain can at least harpoon fish on crude rafts or dive for crustaceans in shallow waters?
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I suggest everyone have a look at the '(A Far From Exhaustible) Technology/Ideas List, Just So We're All Aware of the Current Technological State of Things' section, because that can really give you an idea of just how much we need to get through - no one has confirmed that things as simple as 'emotions' have yet been understood by the sentients.


Interesting...

But I'm about to create a race that MUST be stone age, or at least have stone tools and weapons with some crude metal. Like, it's not possible for them to be anything else. I have a very good, fair reason for it that totally fits the RP, but I don't want to spoil it.

Damnit, how do I explain this without giving too much away?
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Interesting...

But I'm about to create a race that MUST be stone age, or at least have stone tools and weapons with some crude metal. Like, it's not possible for them to be anything else. I have a very good, fair reason for it that totally fits the RP, but I don't want to spoil it.

Damnit, how do I explain this without giving too much away?


Then you just have to expend some Might to teach them. That, or you create them as they are and wait for them to use their superior intellect to advance faster than everyone else.
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Then you just have to expend some Might to teach them. That, or you create them as they are and wait for them to use their superior intellect to advance faster than everyone else.


Hmmm... fair enough, but this is a very unusual race I have in mind, so I'll pm you
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@KhoHain have yet to discover fire? --Did we settle that issue, by the way? I don't actually know what the Hain have or do not have yet, 'cause Toun started them off with some stuff. And people have referred to them IC as having stuff.

My point by the way was that it's possible to have civilisation without bronze or iron, hence we should say they don't have the tech to make civilisation rather than simply sticking to stone, bronze and iron.

@KabenSaalStone age is pre-history.
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@Double CapybaraOh also, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Çatalhöyük is a stone age city -- although it's right at the edge.
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@KabenSaalStone age is pre-history.


Not necessarily. If by 'pre-history' we mean the age of the literal caveman, if such ever existed, then no, that's not the stone age.
The stone age is more what was going on from around 11,000-4500 BC, when we did in fact have Stone Age civilisation, agriculture, animal domestication, sedentary life etc.

Jericho is another example of a Stone Age city. And others exist, of course.
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Huh. I always thought Pre-history was before any of the Ages.
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@KhoYou're thinking of the neolithic (or new stone age, which sounds way cooler IMO). The stone age lasted three and a half million years.

@KabenSaalNah, prehistory just means pre-written (human) history, I think.
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Fixed up the domain, is there anything else out of place that needs to be changed or re-written?
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@KhoYou're thinking of the neolithic (or new stone age, which sounds much cooler IMO). The stone age lasted three and a half million years.


Meh, your argument is noted, though I personally see that prehistory ends and the Stone Age begins with the establishments of significant settlements - such as Jericho and Catalhoyuk.

The reason I say this is, is that just because it hasn't come down to us, it is not necessary that these civilisations could not write or did not write.
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Elementals were persuaded to join that horde of chaos? And they're storm djinn? Those already exist, and they're just the elementals who control weather. We'd better watch out guys, because Grot is the new guy in town and now he can make it rain!

Nah, in all seriousness they'd be more like this guy from the creation sheet on elementals. I haven't made elementalism yet so there's no way mortals could fight or command beings like that yet, but since it seems to have Vestec who personally went around enslaving creatures I'll go along with djinn making up a part of Grot's army.

I too still want to make a Slough day contribution. Have planned out what the post will be and everything; just need to actually write it. But up next I also nominate Jvan, and since that seems to have a lot of support I think we'll go with that.


Not so much as persuaded as 'OH HEY, YOU'RE UNDER MY CONTROL NOW.' and corrupted them. He's gonna keep them away from the general army. Because while they serve him, they still have no problem smashing his other servants.
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@KhoWell, none of this really gets to the back of the issue.

What do the Hain know (at their maximum technological extent)? Where are we on that list in the OP?
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@KhoWell, none of this really gets to the back of the issue.

What do the Hain know (at their maximum technological extent)? Where are we on that list in the OP?


As far as I can see from the IC, they have an understanding of home, emotions, stone tools (including stone-tipped spears), bow and arrow, community, language, entertainment (that story), names, and the making of rawhide (but not leather).
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Fixed up the domain, is there anything else out of place that needs to be changed or re-written?


Now you might work out who Belvast's parents are, and then use this as the basis for any changes on his personality/appearance/description that you feel to be appropriate. What god Belvast is descended from would have a pretty big impact.

I'm sure just about anybody would be willing to help you have your demigod, so feel free to browse through the gods on the the character section and ask around.

His adherence to pacts and magical nature makes Belruac a good candidate for a parent in my view. @The Omnipotent Sphere This might also give Belru a way to actually get in on the action here.
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