Ace of Spades said
You fucked up. You fucked up Bad.

I guess it's a good thing that I was planning on starting over as a pyromancer soon.

=T

Turtlicious said
It scales with both STR and DEX, so he could take it to +15 and go with a hybrid build.One hand the claymore with a shield, go 40 STR / 40 DEX, kill the world.

But that leaves him somewhat lacking in either END or VIT.

It'd be better for a first-time through to stick with one main offensive stat.

monstahunta said
I guess it's a good thing that I was planning on starting over as a pyromancer soon. =T

Pyromancy Glove is great since you only need to upgrade it to deal more damage, however don't neglect weaponry. Some enemies, like Quelaag and the Centipede Demon and Demon Fire Sage are immune to fire.

Could he suicide run the Great Scythe?

Ace of Spades said
Don't even bother with Dragon weapons, you'll easily be outdamaging the Drake Sword if you have a weapon with even C Scaling soon enough if you simply upgrade it and raise the stat/stats it scales with.I'd suggest going with a weapon with a B scaling minimum. Some weapons also upgrade in scaling when upgraded, such as the Uchigatana going from B scaling with Dexterity to A scaling around +10.

Awright, ignore dragon stuff, got it! Yeah, I was thinking getting a katana or halberd (scythe) would be nice. Of course, they wouldn't be available form the start, right?

Turtlicious said
Overwatch, get the sword I told you, the claymore.

I'll run past the dragon. Get the claymore, kick ass with it untill I get better gear.

Ace of Spades said
OVWERWATCH, IT'S ALWAYS BETTER TO DODGE AN OPPONENT.ALWAYS.THERE IS NO EXCEPTION TO THIS RULE.IF YOU CAN, DODGE IT.ONLY BLOCK WHEN YOU HAVE TO.ALWAYS DODGE WHENEVER POSSIBLE

This is what I planned on doing. I am one to sacrifice defence for mobility, because, if you can assault your opponent, and, dodge their attacks, there is no point in defence. Of course, I'd only sacrifice a necessary amount of defence.

Hmmm... I think I might try going to the catacombs to get the great scythe....

Overwatch said
Alright, sweet. Although, I'll probably like to move on to other weapons after the hand axe wears out it's use. I'll bet I can still pick other weapons just fine.Also, why should I stary from the graveyard at the start? Is there nothing rewarding there?

There's a handful of gear scattered throughout, but the skeletons are very tough to kill if you head in there early, and they swarm you in a big way. Very deadly -- of course, it's also a pretty good place to grind for souls early on.

My advice for weapons is -- Balder Side Sword. In fact just get Balder Everything. You'll meet some enemies *fairly* early on that wear these tattered red capes, and kick your ass -- they have lots of really good gear (including one of the better swords in the game, one of the best shields in the game, and one of the best medium-heavy armor sets in the game). They also give a pretty hefty number of souls, and you'll meet them right before heading into some tough areas, so it's worth the time. Kill lots of them -- they'll give up their gear eventually. The equipment isn't *super* against magic, but it's strong against most everything else, and it makes a good benchmark (if you find armor pieces that are better than Balder, it's good armor).

Alternatively, shield + spear is *very* good against the in-game enemies. Invaders will eat you for breakfast, but you'll walk through monsters, because you can attack while guarding. Very beginner-friendly, and you'll encounter lots of quality spears without having to put much work into them.

IF you're splat running the catacombs, get a guide, and never stop running. The scythe is an amazin'balls weapon, and I tend to splat run new characters to grab it. Still get my ass kicked by invaders though.

As a beginning player, you'll want good defense to fall back on while you're getting used to dodging. The first merchant you can find sells Chain Armor. Get it. It's got decent defense, and it's light. A character fresh off the assembly line will be able to midroll in a full set of it. And trust me, midrolling is more useful than most people think.

Oh, and on the topic of armor weight: If you end up fatrolling(slowest roll), change your gear. Fatrolling will get you killed 100% of the time, even with the Vitality to back it up. ALL bossest hit hard and fast, the only way to beat them is to match their speed.

Oh, and get a weapon centered around dexterity. Dex weapons are pretty much the absolute best weapons in the game, bar none. Sure, strength weapons can output a lot of damage, but not only are most strength weapons slow as fuck(like, REALLY slow. Not even worth using), quite a few dex weapons can match their damage, and even do more with the right scaling choices.

mdk said
There's a handful of gear scattered throughout, but the skeletons are very tough to kill if you head in there early, and they swarm you in a big way. Very deadly -- of course, it's also a pretty good place to grind for souls early on.My advice for weapons is -- Balder Side Sword. In fact just get Balder Everything. You'll meet some enemies *fairly* early on that wear these tattered red capes, and kick your ass -- they have lots of really good gear (including one of the better swords in the game, one of the best shields in the game, and one of the best medium-heavy armor sets in the game). They also give a pretty hefty number of souls, and you'll meet them right before heading into some tough areas, so it's worth the time. Kill lots of them -- they'll give up their gear eventually. The equipment isn't *super* against magic, but it's strong against most everything else, and it makes a good benchmark (if you find armor pieces that are better than Balder, it's good armor).Alternatively, shield + spear is *very* good against the in-game enemies. Invaders will eat you for breakfast, but you'll walk through monsters, because you can attack while guarding. Very beginner-friendly, and you'll encounter lots of quality spears without having to put much work into them.

Thanks. I'll still go into the graveyard then. I don't mind death as long as I can attain some skill, and, items/souls. I'll make sure to get some balder gear and check out a spear/shield combo.

Turtlicious said
IF you're splat running the catacombs, get a guide, and never stop running. The scythe is an amazin'balls weapon, and I tend to splat run new characters to grab it. Still get my ass kicked by invaders though.

I have already written a guide for myself to get the scythe easy. i just need to withstand the enemies and such along the way. I'd definitely sacrifice dying a few times and hollowing for it.

Frizan said
Oh, and get a weapon centered around dexterity. Dex weapons are pretty much the absolute best weapons in the game, bar none. Sure, strength weapons can output a lot of damage, but not only are most strength weapons slow as fuck(like, REALLY slow. Not even worth using), quite a few dex weapons can match their damage, and even do more with the right scaling choices.

That's why I'm getting the scythe. It's basically the best dex weapon in the game, from what I've read.

whoa... fucking love gauntlet weapons, from what I've seen. they are pretty fast for their range... too bad I likely won't use some.

I've never even heard of this game. Sounds interesting.

Seravee said
I've never even heard of this game. Sounds interesting.

It is, I think. When I get back, I'll say how I feel about it if I played it. it's a very punishing game, from what I hear from others.

Just finished my first play through of it, smashed the end boss without breaking a sweat. I think I might have been way over-prepared for the fight, since all my weapons and armor were reinforced to the max, I was soul level 83, and I had Estus Flasks +6. Didn't even have a great shield for the damage being thrown at me, but I was able to tank the hits just fine and kill him rather quickly, and I only had to heal twice due to the damage that went through my shield. Thought I was gonna have to get crazy with the fight, since the last couple I'd done were full of shenanigans, but I just stood toe to toe with him and traded shots until he died.

NG+ should be fun stuff once I get past the early stages. I hear Sen's Fortress is where shit gets real in NG+, so I'm looking forward to getting my ass kicked again instead of plowing through chumps in the Undead Burg and such.

Jorick said
Just finished my first play through of it, smashed the end boss without breaking a sweat. I think I might have been way over-prepared for the fight, since all my weapons and armor were reinforced to the max, I was soul level 83, and I had Estus Flasks +6. Didn't even have a great shield for the damage being thrown at me, but I was able to tank the hits just fine and kill him rather quickly, and I only had to heal twice due to the damage that went through my shield. Thought I was gonna have to get crazy with the fight, since the last couple I'd done were full of shenanigans, but I just stood toe to toe with him and traded shots until he died. NG+ should be fun stuff once I get past the early stages. I hear Sen's Fortress is where shit gets real in NG+, so I'm looking forward to getting my ass kicked again instead of plowing through chumps in the Undead Burg and such.

Sounds pretty awesome. I've read that ng+ stacks up to seven, increasing difficulty each time. So, yeah, I guess the first run is like, chump's difficulty if you think about it.

Jorick said
Just finished my first play through of it, smashed the end boss without breaking a sweat. I think I might have been way over-prepared for the fight, since all my weapons and armor were reinforced to the max, I was soul level 83, and I had Estus Flasks +6. Didn't even have a great shield for the damage being thrown at me, but I was able to tank the hits just fine and kill him rather quickly, and I only had to heal twice due to the damage that went through my shield. Thought I was gonna have to get crazy with the fight, since the last couple I'd done were full of shenanigans, but I just stood toe to toe with him and traded shots until he died.

Nah, that's around the level and stats everyone is at for Gwyn, he just happens to be one of the easiest bosses in the game, especially if you can parry well

Overwatch said
Sounds pretty awesome. I've read that ng+ stacks up to seven, increasing difficulty each time. So, yeah, I guess the first run is like, chump's difficulty if you think about it.

I think first run is only chump difficulty if you're smart about gear choices and make sure to upgrade your stuff when possible. I would have had a horrible time in Anor Londo and places after it if I had stuck to the Drake Sword instead of spending some souls to make a better weapon, for instance.

Kill Bones said
Nah, that's around the level and stats everyone is at for Gwyn, he just happens to be one of the easiest bosses in the game, especially if you can parry well

Ah, well, that's kind of disappointing. I hate it when the end boss of a game is easier than most of the other bosses. I didn't bother at all with parrying because I'm shit at it, I use a greatshield and smack people with it instead of parrying, just blocked his hits and took the fire damage that pushed through the shield. It probably helped that I had 40 Endurance and the Cloranthy Ring to have beastly Stamina for frequent blocking.

Jorick said
I think first run is only chump difficulty if you're smart about gear choices and make sure to upgrade your stuff when possible. I would have had a horrible time in Anor Londo and places after it if I had stuck to the Drake Sword instead of spending some souls to make a better weapon, for instance.

Ah, well, that's kind of disappointing. I hate it when the end boss of a game is easier than most of the other bosses. I didn't bother at all with parrying because I'm shit at it, I use a greatshield and smack people with it instead of parrying, just blocked his hits and took the fire damage that pushed through the shield. It probably helped that I had 40 Endurance and the Cloranthy Ring to have beastly Stamina for frequent blocking.

Yeah, I plan on keeping track of everything, if I can. So, it probably wouldn't be that bad.