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Alright, I think I'm done. I'm by no means an expert on Fairy Tail's lore or magic system, or it's world building as a whole, to be honest, so there may very well be some detail issues. Point them out to me and I'll fix 'em up when I wake up in the morning. But without any further hesitation here we go:

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@Neo Is Delight@AngelofOctober

You know I've been thinking.

Regarding that discussion I had with Spanner a few hours ago about the ability for Second Gen Slayers to use Dragon Force. What are your stances on that? Does it particularly matter too much to you guys? I might decide to change Eira to being a first Gen, or somehow have her become Third Gen through the course of the RP.

That'd actually be pretty neat as far as character development goes, thinking about it, if it'd be doable.
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Okay, this is what I have. I'm not sure if I like the history, but if there's anything wrong just let me know.


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@Oni_
I haven't gotten to reading everything yet I'm lazy, sorreh XD
But so far, I like what I see! :D

@Tenma Tendo
I have a huge issue with your character.
'Glass' is a type of crystal, as such, your character to me, seems like a copy of Oni's. I don't know who came up with their idea first, nor do I care, Oni's character went up first, thus they have dibs on the crystal element, and making a sub element dragon slayer to get around this isn't acceptable. You either need to not be a dragon slayer, and just use normal glass magic, or pick a different element.
With that, @AngelofOctober has some issues as well.
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@Tenma Tendo

Trust me I understand when you like a popular series and a character responds to you. However, and call this personal taste or me inserting my personal beliefs in here. I don't necessarily care for people using Face Claims from popular MCS. Shirogane Naoto is a very popular character, he is on the cover of some of the games. And He is An Androgynous character. While not a complete riff, I do not find I like elements from the original character being taken.

Beyond the fact it states they need glasses to read and you have chosen an appearance without any glasses.

I know this seems personal of me. Maybe a bit nit picky. But I just. I rejected someone on another website in another RP from Sesshomaru. If you need help with photos, I can help. Elsewise it really just....comes off...well in poor taste.

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I really like the character.
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Important Announcement!


It has come to my attention I need to state a couple things I thought were obvious.

First. There won't be any more 'nobles'. No high class families. Rune's character is a noble, as are Angel's. If everyone is a noble, then they aren't anything special, because guess what: You can't have nobles if everyone is a noble, because then they are just normal peasants. With that, if your character had even the slightest hint of being noble, and has yet to be accepted, you won't be unless you change this. Be unique. Angel is an exception, as they have been working on their characters since before I even posted the interest check, and are considered grandfathered from this new rule.

Second. While we will have arcs focused on the dragon slayers, you have to keep in mind a very important detail: Dragons are rare, so are Dragon Slayer Lacrima's. With that said, I will be requiring a normal mage to every dragon slayer, unless you can specifically tell me why you can't handle more than one character. This should not make it look like there are more dragon slayers than normal mages.

@Neo Is Delight@AngelofOctober

You know I've been thinking.

Regarding that discussion I had with Spanner a few hours ago about the ability for Second Gen Slayers to use Dragon Force. What are your stances on that? Does it particularly matter too much to you guys? I might decide to change Eira to being a first Gen, or somehow have her become Third Gen through the course of the RP.

That'd actually be pretty neat as far as character development goes, thinking about it, if it'd be doable.

As for this:
I've honestly never thought about it, because Laxus never once went into dragon force.
The poison guy did though, most people say it's only a semi because he just has a few scales and what not, but the dragon force state depends on the slayer type, so I find it weird that people expected more.
So, my stance is, they can do it all the same as a gen one can. They would need a lot of training to be able to enter as easy as a gen three, but with the consumption of large amounts of their element(or super rare versions of their element), they can enter Dragon Force.

A second gen can't become a third gen. A third gen is a dragon slayer who was both raised by dragons, and had a lacrima implanted in them, as such, it would be impossible to go from a second gen to a third. It might be possible to go from a first to a third, but there's a reason they implant lacrima's in children and not adults, so I'm going to say this will also be impossible in the rp.
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Hey, just wanted to mention I'm getting close to finished on my sheet, and I should have it up tomorrow (my tomorrow, not your tomorrow).
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@Neo Is Delight

Alright, thanks! I imagined it might be possible to sort of learn proper dragons slayer magic from a dragon later, but eh.

And does that mean you want me to make a non-slayer character for approval? I can get to work on one if so.
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@Tenma Tendo

Trust me I understand when you like a popular series and a character responds to you. However, and call this personal taste or me inserting my personal beliefs in here. I don't necessarily care for people using Face Claims from popular MCS. Shirogane Naoto is a very popular character, he is on the cover of some of the games. And He is An Androgynous character. While not a complete riff, I do not find I like elements from the original character being taken.

Beyond the fact it states they need glasses to read and you have chosen an appearance without any glasses.

I know this seems personal of me. Maybe a bit nit picky. But I just. I rejected someone on another website in another RP from Sesshomaru. If you need help with photos, I can help. Elsewise it really just....comes off...well in poor taste.


I normally avoid getting into discussions like that when it doesn't involve my own characters or cause any sort of direct impact on my life but this time I actually feel compelled to point something... Isn't that too much of a selfish action?

I mean, taking a famous character as your face claim is quite the normal practice for roleplayers to start with - hardly qualifying a reason for refusing a character. Also, It's important to realize that even if someone decides to take a famous character as reference for appearance they're not obliged to make a character identical to the referential appearance, they're merely providing some visual reference to make it easier for us to visualize them, and even if they do decide to take some aspects of the original character it's not like it will ever be a complete copy - after all the development of the character will always depend on the specific environment and how they interact with it.

Anyway, ignoring the whole half-drunk speech about how you should be able to do the character the way you like and repressing that is wrong, the point of this whole discussion is pointing that refusing a character because you personally don't like the way it was made is kind of going against what RPs stand for. It's not like they're doing metagaming or shit like that, it's just roleplaying a character based in a concept they liked, repressing this without a concrete rrason is just forcing you personal beliefs into someone else - an abuse of you position as GM.

P.s. Shirogane Naoto is a she. She even declares that.
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What elements are currently taken?
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@Neo Is Delight

Unfortunately, I don't think I can make a non-slayer character. I kind of already hit my character limit and even the atual quantity of characters I already have is hard to cope with to the point where I'm considering dropping one of the RPs I'm in to get some extra time.
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What elements are currently taken?


By what we can see in the OOC I'd say Frost, Poison and Crystal. No idea about submissions via PM tho...
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@SpannerHonestly, I can't help but agree with what you said. FCs are simply for appearance, nothing more. But if it's seriously a problem, I don't mind changing it.

@Dark Light And Sound, as that is the one I'll be taking.
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@Tenma Tendo Neat. I actually had a sound ds about a year ago, quite the nice concept to RP.

Edit:
I've been receiving lots of likes for defending people recently. Almost makes me tempted to be more active in OOCs that aren't hosted on discord... Almost.
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Putting dibs on a celestial dragon slayer should the GM's approve it.
I'll have a character up in the next few days.
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I normally avoid getting into discussions like that when it doesn't involve my own characters or cause any sort of direct impact on my life but this time I actually feel compelled to point something... Isn't that too much of a selfish action?

I mean, taking a famous character as your face claim is quite the normal practice for roleplayers to start with - hardly qualifying a reason for refusing a character. Also, It's important to realize that even if someone decides to take a famous character as reference for appearance they're not obliged to make a character identical to the referential appearance, they're merely providing some visual reference to make it easier for us to visualize them, and even if they do decide to take some aspects of the original character it's not like it will ever be a complete copy - after all the development of the character will always depend on the specific environment and how they interact with it.

Anyway, ignoring the whole half-drunk speech about how you should be able to do the character the way you like and repressing that is wrong, the point of this whole discussion is pointing that refusing a character because you personally don't like the way it was made is kind of going against what RPs stand for. It's not like they're doing metagaming or shit like that, it's just roleplaying a character based in a concept they liked, repressing this without a concrete rrason is just forcing you personal beliefs into someone else - an abuse of you position as GM.

P.s. Shirogane Naoto is a she. She even declares that.


I agree. I said that it was a selfish action. But! Here's the thing. When I go looking for a photo, I do not often go searching up a character's name. I look for vague abstracts; reverse trap, bishounen, glasses, a purse, lipstick. I never go with the intention of using a character from something unless its about all I kind find in terms of appearance.

You can find some really nice stand alone photos just by looking in the vague abstract. I never said I wouldn't accept the Shirogane Naoto photo appearance. But when they share vague similarities to the character, that's where I draw the line.

Characters on a character sheet are transformative. You take a photo, even if its from a popular series and you transform and adapt into something that isn't itself. We can be inspired by characters, but inspiration should be expanded.

But I also as said, don't like popular popular characters. To me a character, if done well, wears their own personality. There is no way for me to visually disassociate myself from a character from a popular series like that. Maybe this is simply the difference between a visual thinker and a non visual thinker.

Popular characters have merchandise, they are on the cover of their own things, I mean I won't accept Naruto as someone's character appearance in the same vane because there's merchandise of him, he's everywhere.

There are times when a character image cannot be used for something else. Because that character has a strong impact in the memory.

But those are my I just woke up half asleep thoughts. I said I never would accept it. I meant to imply to look for something else. And if you can't find something else, then fine.
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Unfortunately, I don't think I can make a non-slayer character. I kind of already hit my character limit and even the atual quantity of characters I already have is hard to cope with to the point where I'm considering dropping one of the RPs I'm in to get some extra time.


That is perfectly okay, thanks for letting me know. =^.^=

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I normally avoid getting into discussions like that when it doesn't involve my own characters or cause any sort of direct impact on my life but this time I actually feel compelled to point something... Isn't that too much of a selfish action?

I mean, taking a famous character as your face claim is quite the normal practice for roleplayers to start with - hardly qualifying a reason for refusing a character. Also, It's important to realize that even if someone decides to take a famous character as reference for appearance they're not obliged to make a character identical to the referential appearance, they're merely providing some visual reference to make it easier for us to visualize them, and even if they do decide to take some aspects of the original character it's not like it will ever be a complete copy - after all the development of the character will always depend on the specific environment and how they interact with it.

Anyway, ignoring the whole half-drunk speech about how you should be able to do the character the way you like and repressing that is wrong, the point of this whole discussion is pointing that refusing a character because you personally don't like the way it was made is kind of going against what RPs stand for. It's not like they're doing metagaming or shit like that, it's just roleplaying a character based in a concept they liked, repressing this without a concrete rrason is just forcing you personal beliefs into someone else - an abuse of you position as GM.

P.s. Shirogane Naoto is a she. She even declares that.


The issue wasn't that they used a popular character for a face claim. In fact, I'm perfectly fine with that aspect. However, at the same time, if you go in with the intent of using that character, it's the character that inspires you. Not the image. So you end up taking aspects of that character. And while true the character depends on their environment, it's still not a good thing to be taking ideas from characters. Though, it's not something we're going to deny a character over. So there is no need to worry of abuse of GM power. :3

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I'll read the character stuff later when I'm actually awake. XD
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@Neo Is Delight
I know you want to keep the idea of Dragon Slayers fairly rare, but since the guild is known mostly because of it's higher than average number of Dragon Slayers wouldn't it in some way make sense that a sort of clique would form from them? And since we'd be focusing on a specific group of the characters rather than the entire guild is it that important a distinction to be made? Surely as we wrote through the RP the number of non-dragon slayers would be made apparent from us writing them as NPC's?

Of course, it's your RP so what you want goes, I only bring it up because of a) I'm not 100% sure on the reasoning, which may just be something completely basic that I'm missing. And b) I have slight concerns about running two characters because personally, I hate making two of my own characters interact. Maybe that stems from me being a TTRPG DM and having two NPC's chat is awful for players and it's just a fear that translates a little too well. I can still write up a second character, just be aware I would actively go out of my way to keep their interactions with each other to a minimum - I feel like at that point I may as well be sat writing my novel.
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@Neo Is Delight
I know you want to keep the idea of Dragon Slayers fairly rare, but since the guild is known mostly because of it's higher than average number of Dragon Slayers wouldn't it in some way make sense that a sort of clique would form from them? And since we'd be focusing on a specific group of the characters rather than the entire guild is it that important a distinction to be made? Surely as we wrote through the RP the number of non-dragon slayers would be made apparent from us writing them as NPC's?

Of course, it's your RP so what you want goes, I only bring it up because of a) I'm not 100% sure on the reasoning, which may just be something completely basic that I'm missing. And b) I have slight concerns about running two characters because personally, I hate making two of my own characters interact. Maybe that stems from me being a TTRPG DM and having two NPC's chat is awful for players and it's just a fear that translates a little too well. I can still write up a second character, just be aware I would actively go out of my way to keep their interactions with each other to a minimum - I feel like at that point I may as well be sat writing my novel.


Well, first off, it's not that I want to keep them rare. It's that it's canon, it's literal fact that dragon slayers are a rare sight. So, while the guild is known for having more, I do want actual character that aren't so. Yes, there are likely to be non-slayer npcs, but it's not the same. We will not be focusing entirely on the dragon slayers. There are a couple arcs planned for them, yes, but the entire guild is the focus of the roleplay, which is why we need some normals too. :3

Of course, I understand your concerns, and it can be awkward at times interacting with your own characters, but fear not! You don't have to interact with your own characters all that much if you don't want to. I'll likely be splitting characters into their own little teams, like Team Natsu, so they can do their own things, while still moving the plots forward. :D
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