Hidden 10 yrs ago Post by MelonHead
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My five second time span was under the impression your character was running as fast as he could backwards, you have significantly less time if you're accurately firing a weapon.

No person/alien/demon can run backwards and fire a rocket-launcher with the same accuracy, ordinary humans have to crouch to fire even slightly accurately.
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Also, my character is still technically invisible, you don't have much to go on with your shot even if you could fire as accurately as possible, because there is a lot of debris flying about and some disturbance in the sand isn't exactly the easiest thing to shoot.
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There is no need to fire with perfect accuaracy, as long as it is going in the general direction of the Archivist's pretty big body, it would score a hit due to the self-destructing nature of the rockets. Fuchsia is merely pulling the trigger a second time when he realises that the spider is coming at him, before jumping.

Edit: He only has to fire straight-forward to hit the spider running at him -straight forwardly- (That is not a word, I know)

Edit edit: You also keep saying he's invisible. Am I missing something here? His CS states that he's harder to see, especially in shadows. Quote "The Data Pad allows for a rudimentary cloaking, making him harder to see especially in shadows for a total of roughly thirty seconds before it needs to recharge from a serious power source. (Can’t be recharged in battle, leaves the Data Pad with only basic function of Data access.)"
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Whatever, get another ruling if you want. I find it implausible for you to fire that accurately with that time scale while running backwards and being about to jump in the air at an invisible opponent surrounded by the cloud of an explosion. That is all.

My invisibility is exactly what it can be at tier 5, not impossible to see but difficult, much like your Predator example.

Technically my character probably isn't running straight at him, he's taking the most direct path but we're still on the shore of a lake.

If what you're saying however is that your character is standing still and shooting the moment he sees my character, your character would have claws in his body before he pulled the trigger. Its only running backwards that's saving you.
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I find it implausible that you believe my tier 5 character to have such poor aim that he can't hit the general area of a foe moving straight at him from an angle he has already fired at once, even while moving. It's not like he's trying to pull of a head shot.

Invisibility-wise, we are on the same page. That's what I thought it was.

Edit: The most direct path at him is straight-forward.
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Do know that I'm not asking you to take a hit here. Your character is fully capable of dodging the rocket. I'm just saying that you're making the assumption that Fuchsia is less capable of hitting things with his weapon of choice than he actually is.
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Ok. Rocket descriptor...
...It literally fires live rockets, inhabited by the souls of murderers and the likes, their faces attached to the front; screaming all the way from the moment they leave the barrel, until they blow up at will when they get close enough to a victim. They use their eyes to determine such, and if they're unable to see someone, they will not detonate themselves until they hit something.


...My invisibility is exactly what it can be at tier 5, not impossible to see but difficult, much like your Predator example.


There is a good chance, perhaps as high as fifty-fifty that the two abilities will in someway negate. It is possible that the shells "see" the shimmering image, perhaps not. Especially as in the post it is clearly stated that
The rocket skimmed past him...


If it skimmed past there is a greater likelihood it could "see" the cloaked spider, perhaps just as it passed him, thus detonating slightly behind but clearly with the Archivist in the blast radius. Will it hurt the Archivist? Dunno but will it have some effect yes. To what degree is up to melon
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It did injure him, not significantly because it seemed like such a half-assed attack it didn't really deserve massive damage, but neither did I have my character dodge it which would have been difficult for him. If it makes you feel better, he could have moved his torso slightly to avoid the attack, but the result is the same so it really makes no difference.
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And it only skimmed past him because the rocket was pointed in his -general- direction, though it was never exactly stated in IC that the rockets homed in on things they could see, were you expecting me to use the benefit of OOC knowledge I don't even have (as I haven't read your sheet, and Tier 1 eden rules requires you to state everything you're using in IC, the sheet shouldn't even be required.)
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Incorrect, I explicitly stated in the rules a closed post style, if your opponent fails to do it then it is his loss, I am merely stating that it could have detonated by you thus alleviating the discussion between the both of you. If you choose to not have it detonate by you, even though I am saying you can do so, so be it.
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Well, in my post the rocket blew up behind me, hence why my character was grazed by sand (and whatever explosion the Hellzooka actually has, which also wasn't mentioned.)
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Again closed post if the indicated potential damage is not alluded too, oh well. But I would ask that both of you be more precise in your postings to alleviate the issues. Remember the rules of being clear and concise. If you are going to use distances clarify them so everyone has a frame work to write within. As it is you are closing on him, he missed you with the first shot and is firing again.
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Yeah I quit, its evident this is just going to be annoying, and if it isn't fun there's no point.
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Thats fine. I just never understood what the arguement was over in the first place. I seemed to me you had moved past it already and were in cqb.
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Well, I can't be bothered with the next argument, which is that drawing a dagger and cutting my web wouldn't be quicker than my character pulling him into melee range.
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